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sukottosan_d

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Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 03:48:34 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 03:46:44 PM

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Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 03:23:45 PM

http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ

There is the wallet that received a mix transaction...

lets start with this wallet that received a payment from the mixer
and we can walk through it backwards

I'll make it easy

this is the received mix transaction

http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/9bc580ea9b7ec69d53dbc28e9cc42f1ea810925137d6cc8c1011e904f7c18bac#o0

and you have address XZvkTGD9hMiRuMByqCkHgRTNAu5J5fWnJV - which made the payment

Okay so we know 2 things, XZvkTGD9hMiRuMByqCkHgRTNAu5J5fWnJV SENT a payment to XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ

now - can that be tied back to the original transaction? Huh

hmm..

anything here?

http://cryptexplorer.com/block/7e6c9025fb8d0040a19c8dfcd046ca5202703a4d125b61d70ad2c3f278b4c204

or this

http://cryptexplorer.com/block/a74c8d32fc952dc8c277e46342cf34592dfe65ab9a79c2e6226f7864b14b83fb

Huh

Where is the solution secured?

bardacuda

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Quote from: bardacuda on June 11, 2014, 03:50:14 PM

ATC what's the timeline for REV 2 roughly? I think about 2 weeks ago you said it would be 3 to 4 weeks? Does that mean you are expecting to release REV 2 in 1 - 2 weeks from now?

bump.

atcsecure

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Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 03:54:39 PM

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Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 03:50:57 PM

Hmm. I don't see any link back to the original transaction

maybe this will help

original transaction --->>>> which was sent TO this address "XYyMMG1VQHyRhAQWGdRQ9AEfdwSuG7w18G"

http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XYyMMG1VQHyRhAQWGdRQ9AEfdwSuG7w18G

so now I've revealed the transaction ^^^^^ with this data you should be able to find the original senders wallet ^^^^^^ then take that original senders wallet and search XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ for the link

There is a bounty for proving the link for this transaction stated above

and I have provided both ends, so all the hard work is done

atcsecure

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Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 03:51:42 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 03:50:57 PM

Hmm. I don't see any link back to the original transaction

maybe this will help

original transaction --->>>> which was sent TO this address "XYyMMG1VQHyRhAQWGdRQ9AEfdwSuG7w18G"

http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XYyMMG1VQHyRhAQWGdRQ9AEfdwSuG7w18G

so now I've revealed the transaction ^^^^^ with this data you should be able to find the original senders wallet ^^^^^^ then take that original senders wallet and search XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ for the link

There is a bounty for proving the link for this transaction stated above

CoinCartel

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☆☆☆☆☆☆☆

Here's a non-technical version of how the mixer works

https://i.imgur.com/AAu0Ew9.jpg

Wink

atcsecure

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Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 03:50:57 PM

Hmm. I don't see any link back to the original transaction

maybe this will help

original transaction --->>>> which was sent TO this address "XYyMMG1VQHyRhAQWGdRQ9AEfdwSuG7w18G"

http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XYyMMG1VQHyRhAQWGdRQ9AEfdwSuG7w18G

so now I've revealed the transaction ^^^^^ with this data you should be able to find the original senders wallet ^^^^^^ then take that original senders wallet and search XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ for the link

atcsecure

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Hmm. I don't see any link back to the original transaction

bardacuda

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ATC what's the timeline for REV 2 roughly? I think about 2 weeks ago you said it would be 3 to 4 weeks? Does that mean you are expecting to release REV 2 in 1 - 2 weeks from now?

atcsecure

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Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 03:46:44 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 03:44:40 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 03:44:02 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 03:42:04 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 03:23:45 PM

http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ

There is the wallet that received a mix transaction...

lets start with this wallet that received a payment from the mixer
and we can walk through it backwards

I'll make it easy

this is the received mix transaction

http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/9bc580ea9b7ec69d53dbc28e9cc42f1ea810925137d6cc8c1011e904f7c18bac#o0

and you have address XZvkTGD9hMiRuMByqCkHgRTNAu5J5fWnJV - which made the payment

Okay so we know 2 things, XZvkTGD9hMiRuMByqCkHgRTNAu5J5fWnJV SENT a payment to XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ

now - can that be tied back to the original transaction? Huh

hmm..

anything here?

http://cryptexplorer.com/block/7e6c9025fb8d0040a19c8dfcd046ca5202703a4d125b61d70ad2c3f278b4c204

or this

http://cryptexplorer.com/block/a74c8d32fc952dc8c277e46342cf34592dfe65ab9a79c2e6226f7864b14b83fb

Huh

atcsecure

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Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 03:44:40 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 03:44:02 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 03:42:04 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 03:23:45 PM

http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ

There is the wallet that received a mix transaction...

lets start with this wallet that received a payment from the mixer
and we can walk through it backwards

I'll make it easy

this is the received mix transaction

http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/9bc580ea9b7ec69d53dbc28e9cc42f1ea810925137d6cc8c1011e904f7c18bac#o0

and you have address XZvkTGD9hMiRuMByqCkHgRTNAu5J5fWnJV - which made the payment

Okay so we know 2 things, XZvkTGD9hMiRuMByqCkHgRTNAu5J5fWnJV SENT a payment to XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ

now - can that be tied back to the original transaction? Huh

atcsecure

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Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 03:44:02 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 03:42:04 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 03:23:45 PM

http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ

There is the wallet that received a mix transaction...

lets start with this wallet that received a payment from the mixer
and we can walk through it backwards

I'll make it easy

this is the received mix transaction

http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/9bc580ea9b7ec69d53dbc28e9cc42f1ea810925137d6cc8c1011e904f7c18bac#o0

and you have address XZvkTGD9hMiRuMByqCkHgRTNAu5J5fWnJV - which made the payment

atcsecure

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Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 03:42:04 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 03:23:45 PM

http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ

There is the wallet that received a mix transaction...

lets start with this wallet that received a payment from the mixer
and we can walk through it backwards

I'll make it easy

this is the received mix transaction

http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/9bc580ea9b7ec69d53dbc28e9cc42f1ea810925137d6cc8c1011e904f7c18bac#o0

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Quote from: greyskies on June 11, 2014, 03:41:46 PM

Let's settle this once and for all in bold font.

Did Chaeplin find the original sender address in the challenge? Yes or no?

NO

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Quote from: SpringfieldM1A on June 11, 2014, 03:38:21 PM

in other news, can anyone point me to the latest wallet?

http://xc-official.com/release/wallets/

Thank you!

atcsecure

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Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 03:23:45 PM

http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ

There is the wallet that received a mix transaction...

lets start with this wallet that received a payment from the mixer
and we can walk through it backwards

greyskies

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Let's settle this once and for all in bold font.

Did Chaeplin find the original sender address in the challenge? Yes or no?

kobaya74

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Quote from: SpringfieldM1A on June 11, 2014, 03:38:21 PM

in other news, can anyone point me to the latest wallet?

http://xc-official.com/release/wallets/

phosphorush

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I think I need a whitepaper to really understand how this works

SpringfieldM1A

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in other news, can anyone point me to the latest wallet?

atcsecure

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Quote from: sukottosan_d on June 11, 2014, 03:28:38 PM

Quote from: sukottosan_d on June 11, 2014, 03:23:25 PM

Quote from: phosphorush on June 11, 2014, 03:19:28 PM

Quote from: sukottosan_d on June 11, 2014, 03:15:39 PM

Quote from: phosphorush on June 11, 2014, 03:11:14 PM

So when you send from original address A to the receiving address D , it goes to the mixer B, the mixer makes a new address C to send the amount to the receiver D? And Chaeplin doesn't get only A?

And chaeplin is adding that the mixer only uses one address for you, so once you know A, you can trace it. Which is what I said before. You have to assume A is known.

I see, thanks. So there is no direct link but if you are forced to show your address then they can prove that you made a specific transaction.

There are two conversations going on here at once. I want to deal with this side issue.
You have to assume the user's address is known.
Why? Bitcoin can change your address right now and use the same wallet...so some people think it's anonymous. It's not because you can tie all the transactions one person does back to an address. Once the address is known, you know all the transactions...bitcoin has always had that level of anonymity. This already exists in every implementation of every crypto-coin.

That means nothing to this conversation.

ATCSecure, I would appreciate if you could confirm this fact...since so many people jumping into this conversation - mistakenly do not understand this fact and its clouding the discussion which could be constructive.

This is the fundamental principle on which your solution is built. The problem it is trying to solve, correct? Anonymizing a transaction even if the sender or receiver is known.

Yes the REV1 release hides sender even if you know the receiver's address

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