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atcsecure

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Quote from: Artoodeetoo on June 11, 2014, 02:21:44 PM

Quote from: acseric on June 11, 2014, 02:18:32 PM

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Quote from: Artoodeetoo on June 11, 2014, 02:14:01 PM

I really don't see chaeplan as here to help, i think he is a paid drk troll, purely here for fud. Luckily we have a pto active dev who is on the forums and here to show him up.. Great job atc.. You have the drk boys very worried

He is famous for being a HUGE DRK FANBOY look at their threads... and ATCSECURE love to see the fire in you calling him out FUCK THESE FUDDERS XC FTW

He doesnt appear to be fudding, he appears to have an actual point. Address the point he is making and explain why it isnt an issue. If you can do that, there wont be and Fear, Uncertainty or Doubt.

oh his best dtk mate is back, what issue has he raised or shown other than that he cannot work out the challenge.. Which as it stands suggests that rev 1 is err rather anonymous...

correct, the wallet it points back to is the not the original senders wallet

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Quote from: acseric on June 11, 2014, 02:18:32 PM

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Quote from: Artoodeetoo on June 11, 2014, 02:14:01 PM

I really don't see chaeplan as here to help, i think he is a paid drk troll, purely here for fud. Luckily we have a pto active dev who is on the forums and here to show him up.. Great job atc.. You have the drk boys very worried

He is famous for being a HUGE DRK FANBOY look at their threads... and ATCSECURE love to see the fire in you calling him out FUCK THESE FUDDERS XC FTW

He doesnt appear to be fudding, he appears to have an actual point. Address the point he is making and explain why it isnt an issue. If you can do that, there wont be and Fear, Uncertainty or Doubt.

oh his best dtk mate is back, what issue has he raised or shown other than that he cannot work out the challenge.. Which as it stands suggests that rev 1 is err rather anonymous...

atcsecure

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Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 02:20:59 PM

Quote from: acseric on June 11, 2014, 02:19:52 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 02:16:49 PM

Quote from: acseric on June 11, 2014, 02:16:08 PM

Quote from: Artoodeetoo on June 11, 2014, 02:14:01 PM

I really don't see chaeplan as here to help, i think he is a paid drk troll, purely here for fud. Luckily we have a pto active dev who is on the forums and here to show him up.. Great job atc.. You have the drk boys very worried

Critics (or testers) arent supposed to help. they are supposed to point out problems. Once you are aware of the problems, you them fix them.

Development 101

correct but when you make a statement and then just show the mixer address and claim that links w/ the sender address without showing the sender address - how does that help?

He isnt just showing the mixer address. He is able to tie the transaction to a specific wallet. That is a problem.

that wallet is not the original wallet

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Quote from: acseric on June 11, 2014, 02:19:52 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 02:16:49 PM

Quote from: acseric on June 11, 2014, 02:16:08 PM

Quote from: Artoodeetoo on June 11, 2014, 02:14:01 PM

I really don't see chaeplan as here to help, i think he is a paid drk troll, purely here for fud. Luckily we have a pto active dev who is on the forums and here to show him up.. Great job atc.. You have the drk boys very worried

Critics (or testers) arent supposed to help. they are supposed to point out problems. Once you are aware of the problems, you them fix them.

Development 101

correct but when you make a statement and then just show the mixer address and claim that links w/ the sender address without showing the sender address - how does that help?

He isnt just showing the mixer address. He is able to tie the transaction to a specific wallet. That is a problem.

Where? all i see are mixer addresses. Thats the hole idea behind a mixer

cyberhacker

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new fuds are coming!

do you have whitepaper, open-source?

atcsecure

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Quote from: acseric on June 11, 2014, 02:19:52 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 02:16:49 PM

Quote from: acseric on June 11, 2014, 02:16:08 PM

Quote from: Artoodeetoo on June 11, 2014, 02:14:01 PM

I really don't see chaeplan as here to help, i think he is a paid drk troll, purely here for fud. Luckily we have a pto active dev who is on the forums and here to show him up.. Great job atc.. You have the drk boys very worried

Critics (or testers) arent supposed to help. they are supposed to point out problems. Once you are aware of the problems, you them fix them.

Development 101

correct but when you make a statement and then just show the mixer address and claim that links w/ the sender address without showing the sender address - how does that help?

He isnt just showing the mixer address. He is able to tie the transaction to a specific wallet. That is a problem.

that wallet is the MIXER wallet.. not the original senders wallet

atcsecure

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Quote from: acseric on June 11, 2014, 02:18:32 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: Artoodeetoo on June 11, 2014, 02:14:01 PM

I really don't see chaeplan as here to help, i think he is a paid drk troll, purely here for fud. Luckily we have a pto active dev who is on the forums and here to show him up.. Great job atc.. You have the drk boys very worried

He is famous for being a HUGE DRK FANBOY look at their threads... and ATCSECURE love to see the fire in you calling him out FUCK THESE FUDDERS XC FTW

He doesnt appear to be fudding, he appears to have an actual point. Address the point he is making and explain why it isnt an issue. If you can do that, there wont be and Fear, Uncertainty or Doubt.

what is his point? the mixer address [output] used for this transaction is visible? well of course it yes, we aren't using quantum physics to send the coins, the issue is the mixers input address and original senders output address

since we provided the "last leg"of the TX, he can only back trace to the mixer itself, so far he has NOT Proven anything else

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Whitepaper? Design doc?

I'd like to research this stuff....but I don't see anything. I may be looking in the wrong places though.

acseric

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Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 02:16:49 PM

Quote from: acseric on June 11, 2014, 02:16:08 PM

Quote from: Artoodeetoo on June 11, 2014, 02:14:01 PM

I really don't see chaeplan as here to help, i think he is a paid drk troll, purely here for fud. Luckily we have a pto active dev who is on the forums and here to show him up.. Great job atc.. You have the drk boys very worried

Critics (or testers) arent supposed to help. they are supposed to point out problems. Once you are aware of the problems, you them fix them.

Development 101

correct but when you make a statement and then just show the mixer address and claim that links w/ the sender address without showing the sender address - how does that help?

He isnt just showing the mixer address. He is able to tie the transaction to a specific wallet. That is a problem.

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Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 12:40:40 PM

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Quote from: evtrmm on June 11, 2014, 12:16:58 PM

In a real life situation you would not have an MD5 would you? All you would have is the incoming amount and TX ID.
Therefore, I hashed the MD5 including the sender and receiver, and zipped it. It is there. the password will be available later - say 4 pm CST, so 3hr45mins from now.

he already posted something. check it now

and if he somehow cracked the zip , you guys have to be kidding me

evtrmm, where are you now. need you here.

All chaeplin did was search for transactions that equal = 2.2, he failed to show any link between the two

+1 like the last 500 test, so can you idiots please stop backstabbin your own dev for once.

We aren't backstabbing anything. ATCSecure put a test out there.

Actually I didn't put that test out there, that was done by evtrmm

So far nobody has provided the source address for any test I have done

+1

anyone care to provide an address just to get this pissing match over with please

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Great news.

No-one can prove the link so far.

And this is only release 1.

Wait until Ver2 with multipath and realtime encrypted messages.

Plus our xnodes can be ran in ANY wallet. Unlike DRK where you set up a node on a VPS that can get hacked (someone lost 1000 DRK). Watch out DRK, we are coming for you Cool

acseric

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Quote from: Artoodeetoo on June 11, 2014, 02:14:01 PM

I really don't see chaeplan as here to help, i think he is a paid drk troll, purely here for fud. Luckily we have a pto active dev who is on the forums and here to show him up.. Great job atc.. You have the drk boys very worried

He is famous for being a HUGE DRK FANBOY look at their threads... and ATCSECURE love to see the fire in you calling him out FUCK THESE FUDDERS XC FTW

He doesnt appear to be fudding, he appears to have an actual point. Address the point he is making and explain why it isnt an issue. If you can do that, there wont be and Fear, Uncertainty or Doubt.

phosphorush

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What doesn't FUD you only makes you stronger?

Artoodeetoo

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The fud is so obvious now its actually making us stronger lol

atcsecure

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Quote from: acseric on June 11, 2014, 02:16:08 PM

Quote from: Artoodeetoo on June 11, 2014, 02:14:01 PM

I really don't see chaeplan as here to help, i think he is a paid drk troll, purely here for fud. Luckily we have a pto active dev who is on the forums and here to show him up.. Great job atc.. You have the drk boys very worried

Critics (or testers) arent supposed to help. they are supposed to point out problems. Once you are aware of the problems, you them fix them.

Development 101

correct but when you make a statement and then just show the mixer address and claim that links w/ the sender address without showing the sender address - how does that help?

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Quote from: chaeplin on June 11, 2014, 02:11:12 PM

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Really? Good to know.

Anyway, You want hard link, that two address of mixer are connected.
Right ?

yes

Then code is right. Sending to real payee works good.

Problem is received coins are reused.

Proof :

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7254769

I have to prove two address is related.
XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb === XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC

Right ?

ah but the received coins that are re-used at not from that transaction, it is from an earlier transaction through the mixer, so a different SENDER

Right. not from that transaction.

Used address by Mixer is related after all.

In this case, txs are fewer, so very clear.

It's related after 10 ~~ many blocks after.

So I call it flaw.

Ah, so there is no provable direct link

thank you

1FzikiCbBUM2YnatvHS9ufJtrUqkmuMD8s is mine.

okay show me the proof of link?

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?96187.htm
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?96160.htm

1FzikiCbBUM2YnatvHS9ufJtrUqkmuMD8s is mine.

the receivers address is

XV49MnmtTirtZSQ2jtgisvNhNr6DduzCNu

show the proof back to the original senders address

otherwise your spreading FUD

The bounty is still open until somebody proves the link...

Don't you understand this ?

I show you mixer address is related.

Want more ?

all your showing is the mixer address, the bounty is for showing a link from the original sender to the receiver address of XV49MnmtTirtZSQ2jtgisvNhNr6DduzCNu

of course you can trace back to the mixer from the receiver address, but prove the sender's address and link ON THE BLOCKCHAIN

Oh kiddding.

Sender --- a add of mixer -- b add of mixer -- payee.

It's in blockchain, a add of mixer == b add of mixer.

okay so prove it if you want the bounty - but prove the sender's address and link ON THE BLOCKCHAIN

Well I think you don't know anything about multi input.

It's used in a input together.

Ah, so you change topics when you can't prove the link from sender to receiver?

Quote

Input
An input is a reference to an output in a different transaction. Multiple inputs are often listed in a transaction.
The values of the referenced outputs are added up, and the total is usable in the outputs of this transaction.
Previous tx is a hash of a previous transaction. Index is the specific output in the referenced transaction. ScriptSig is the first half of a script (discussed in more detail later).

The script contains two components, a signature and a public key. The public key belongs to the redeemer of the output
transaction and proves the creator is allowed to redeem the outputs value. The other component is an ECDSA signature over
a hash of a simplified version of the transaction. It, combined with the public key, proves the transaction was created
by the real owner of the address in question.
Various flags define how the transaction is simplified and can be used to create different types of payment.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transactions

Related. pass-through mixer.

A personal attack on ATCSecure isnt any proof, a link to Wiki isnt any proof, and saying the one who wrote this don't understand it is just hilarious.
All Fud spreaders have one thing in common, if they cant convince you, they WILL attack you personal, and you are no exception!
Just keep it on topic, and post the full proof, without any step missing.

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Quote from: atcsecure on June 11, 2014, 02:15:07 PM

Quote from: ballzdeep on June 11, 2014, 02:14:34 PM

if the problem is low transaction amounts cant we all send some coin at same time same amount all over the place and dig in that pile ?

Even with the low TX amounts, he wasn't able to show the sender's address...

Thanks Dev,

now it is time to get on right track--our further projects.

nothing can stop XC

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Quote from: Artoodeetoo on June 11, 2014, 02:14:01 PM

I really don't see chaeplan as here to help, i think he is a paid drk troll, purely here for fud. Luckily we have a pto active dev who is on the forums and here to show him up.. Great job atc.. You have the drk boys very worried

Critics (or testers) arent supposed to help. they are supposed to point out problems. Once you are aware of the problems, you them fix them.

Development 101

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So much for "Community"

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Quote from: lnash on June 11, 2014, 02:10:40 PM

Cryptogretzky, Dadon, DRRobert, Wevus, Evtrmm, Mikemikemike, Jestersdead, Greyskies, 520bit, Jasinlee, Teka, Pizpie and anyone else interested:

Huge differentiator XC MOBILE APP has been created (Android and IPhone) but not released
- quick mobile transfer
- balance checks
- full control over keys
- advanced QR code scanner
- mixer support coming

If we want to do an exclusive launch with XC - message me in our IRC channel #XCofficial - I'm there as Alliance.

I spoke with the mobile app developer and he sees the potential in XC, likes the community, and may do it for a XC bounty.
He was originally looking to do the launch with a different coin; however, if we can get in there quickly, it's ours.

+1

Is this the new XC "DARK" wallet. J/K

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Quote from: ballzdeep on June 11, 2014, 02:14:34 PM

if the problem is low transaction amounts cant we all send some coin at same time same amount all over the place and dig in that pile ?

Even with the low TX amounts, he wasn't able to show the sender's address...

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