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demgains

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Quote from: JakeThePanda on July 15, 2014, 12:39:33 PM

Quote from: G-Bert on July 15, 2014, 12:30:17 PM

I ve been looking around a little in some other sub forums for other coins and the thing is, everyone is so confident in their own coins! I mean, we all know the reasons were so confident in XC, it seems so blatantly clear, but, like two of you have just said, you were dead cert on other coins and it went tits up.

No one else has had such an open dev team is that correct? The fact Dans linkedin was posted was the single reason I got into XC in the first place, and we've come a long way since then with the new team members, site, wallet, etc etc

I guess simply patience is key. if it gets below the 14's im gonna bust out another BTC. f**k it. lol

In all fairness to me, the other coin I mentioned was Namecoin and it's still #8 on the coin market cap list. It's not dead yet.
The one thing my 3 main holdings have in common is an open and transparent development team. I don't think any coin will go mainstream without this and I believe it 100%. Before anyone mentions Satoshi, BTC has a huge team of developers that are publicly identified. Some of them even worked with Satoshi, so as far as I'm concerned BTC already has a transparent team and foundation.

To the person that says CLOAK is a competitor, you need to ask yourself a couple of questions and step outside of your current opinion to answer it. Do you see the public accepting a coin named "CLOAK", developed by an unknown person? This is a very simple yet important question. The answer seems obvious to me.

I made mention of this, its something that the crypto world will understand, but a 55 year old garbage man will ask what the fuck is cloak. I previously mentioned XC is geared towards the entire population or mass adoption. Long term I do think XC is better. But enough about the chitchat of other coins, lets keep this on XC

reebokasss

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Im sorry for stupid question , but i want to tranfer my coins from MP to wallet , so should i download XCv0.9.2.40XCurrency-2.42.zip ? Is it version 2.42 or what? And then transfer coins from mintpal to wallet and i will get 3,33% from my coins in 1 year? If someone can explain, it would be nice, because i held my coins at mintpal and never had XC wallet

thankyou very much.

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Quote from: JakeThePanda on July 15, 2014, 12:45:28 PM

Quote from: _evolution_ on July 15, 2014, 12:41:21 PM

Quote from: JakeThePanda on July 15, 2014, 12:25:07 PM

Quote from: _evolution_ on July 15, 2014, 12:20:59 PM

Just my 2 cents:

You aren't a true XC believer yet, obviously.

Just my 2 XCs

obviously the rich list rank is on another opinion

Where you rank on the rich list isn't a complete measure of your conviction. How much XC do you own relative to your net worth would be a better measure.

Good point, here is my agenda - stop of all wars (probably by deporting the USA congress on Mars), feeding starved Africa, termination of the New World Order, annihilation of all mosquitoes, and $5 donation for BTC mausoleum.

G-Bert

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Quote from: the_game1224 on July 15, 2014, 12:53:31 PM

Quote from: G-Bert on July 15, 2014, 12:30:17 PM

I ve been looking around a little in some other sub forums for other coins and the thing is, everyone is so confident in their own coins! I mean, we all know the reasons were so confident in XC, it seems so blatantly clear, but, like two of you have just said, you were dead cert on other coins and it went tits up.

No one else has had such an open dev team is that correct? The fact Dans linkedin was posted was the single reason I got into XC in the first place, and we've come a long way since then with the new team members, site, wallet, etc etc

I guess simply patience is key. if it gets below the 14's im gonna bust out another BTC. f**k it. lol

If you own a coin that you are just waiting for the pump to sell what value do you get out of posting anything in the thread that was would not inspire confidence? There in lies the answer to why everyone seems so confident in many of the coins they post about. With XC I would have no problem asking the tough questions if I had any because they would be meant to make the coin stronger.
Heck even a week ago when I was still wasting time in pump and dumps to increase my xc holdings you wouldn't see me posting the questions going through my head in those threads because they would have caused much doubt.

Hope that makes sense

Yeah understand completely. I need to remember 90% are in crypto for pump and dumps. I've always been in it for the innovation. (and hopefully get a free trip to the moon on a real winner like XC)

merk475

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Quote from: JakeThePanda on July 15, 2014, 12:39:33 PM

In all fairness to me, the other coin I mentioned was Namecoin and it's still #8 on the coin market cap list. It's not dead yet.
The one thing my 3 main holdings have in common is an open and transparent development team. I don't think any coin will go mainstream without this and I believe it 100%. Before anyone mentions Satoshi, BTC has a huge team of developers that are publicly identified. Some of them even worked with Satoshi, so as far as I'm concerned BTC already has a transparent team and foundation.

To the person that says CLOAK is a competitor, you need to ask yourself a couple of questions and step outside of your current opinion to answer it. Do you see the public accepting a coin named "CLOAK", developed by an unknown person? This is a very simple yet important question. The answer seems obvious to me.

+1. Exactly how I feel. As you posted this I was writing something very similar below you. Same reasons though.

oblox

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Quote from: dragnar on July 15, 2014, 12:52:58 PM

this coin cant be mined any more only staked

how do u get to a 78 million total thats just WTF (

He's talking about VTC...

merk475

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Quote from: dragnar on July 15, 2014, 12:52:58 PM

this coin cant be mined any more only staked

how do u get to a 78 million total thats just WTF (

I was talking about the other coin I mentioned (VTC), which you can still mine and they have 78 million coins left before they reach their cap. Currently only 6.1 million coins have been mined.

Teka

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I understand that people are worried about POS security but so far not a single dev has come outand said the exact issue. Im sure that of there is an issue Dan will fix it in an instance. Last time we had an issue with POS blocks taking long in the early days, the POS code was optimized within 24 hours.

the_game1224

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Quote from: G-Bert on July 15, 2014, 12:30:17 PM

I ve been looking around a little in some other sub forums for other coins and the thing is, everyone is so confident in their own coins! I mean, we all know the reasons were so confident in XC, it seems so blatantly clear, but, like two of you have just said, you were dead cert on other coins and it went tits up.

No one else has had such an open dev team is that correct? The fact Dans linkedin was posted was the single reason I got into XC in the first place, and we've come a long way since then with the new team members, site, wallet, etc etc

I guess simply patience is key. if it gets below the 14's im gonna bust out another BTC. f**k it. lol

If you own a coin that you are just waiting for the pump to sell what value do you get out of posting anything in the thread that was would not inspire confidence? There in lies the answer to why everyone seems so confident in many of the coins they post about. With XC I would have no problem asking the tough questions if I had any because they would be meant to make the coin stronger.
Heck even a week ago when I was still wasting time in pump and dumps to increase my xc holdings you wouldn't see me posting the questions going through my head in those threads because they would have caused much doubt.

Hope that makes sense

dragnar

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Quote from: merk475 on July 15, 2014, 12:50:42 PM

Quote from: G-Bert on July 15, 2014, 12:30:17 PM

I ve been looking around a little in some other sub forums for other coins and the thing is, everyone is so confident in their own coins! I mean, we all know the reasons were so confident in XC, it seems so blatantly clear, but, like two of you have just said, you were dead cert on other coins and it went tits up.

No one else has had such an open dev team is that correct? The fact Dans linkedin was posted was the single reason I got into XC in the first place, and we've come a long way since then with the new team members, site, wallet, etc etc

I guess simply patience is key. if it gets below the 14's im gonna bust out another BTC. f**k it. lol

I think the problems with the coin I mentioned is that it is a POW with a 84 million coin count (Currently 6 million have been mined). It has been one of the most profitable coins to mine, so it's a dumpers paradise. Supply currently out-paces the demand, and they still have another 78 million to mine! Even though they are very inovative, it's not enough to keep up. No thanks!

XC, now in the POS phase will never experience mining dumps so that obviously is a huge plus. Little to no energy is involved to make this coin work. POS with a very nice 3.33% rate (not too little like BC, and not something outrageous that outpaces the inflation rate). A solid dev team that have made themselves known. In this day and age of endless shit-coins and scammer devs, this is a HUGE selling point for me. I'd like to know the team I support. I believe this will be the way of the future, and will really be the only way you can fully trust a coin. Just a lot of good things!

this coin cant be mined any more only staked

how do u get to a 78 million total thats just WTF (

merk475

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Quote from: G-Bert on July 15, 2014, 12:30:17 PM

I ve been looking around a little in some other sub forums for other coins and the thing is, everyone is so confident in their own coins! I mean, we all know the reasons were so confident in XC, it seems so blatantly clear, but, like two of you have just said, you were dead cert on other coins and it went tits up.

No one else has had such an open dev team is that correct? The fact Dans linkedin was posted was the single reason I got into XC in the first place, and we've come a long way since then with the new team members, site, wallet, etc etc

I guess simply patience is key. if it gets below the 14's im gonna bust out another BTC. f**k it. lol

I think the problems with the coin I mentioned is that it is a POW with a 84 million coin count (Currently 6 million have been mined). It has been one of the most profitable coins to mine, so it's a dumpers paradise. Supply currently out-paces the demand, and they still have another 78 million to mine! Even though they are very inovative, it's not enough to keep up. No thanks!

XC, now in the POS phase will never experience mining dumps so that obviously is a huge plus. Little to no energy is involved to make this coin work. POS with a very nice 3.33% rate (not too little like BC, and not something outrageous that outpaces the inflation rate). A solid dev team that have made themselves known. In this day and age of endless shit-coins and scammer devs, this is a HUGE selling point for me. I'd like to know the team I support. I believe this will be the way of the future, and will really be the only way you can fully trust a coin. Just a lot of good things!

G-Bert

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Quote from: JakeThePanda on July 15, 2014, 12:39:33 PM

Quote from: G-Bert on July 15, 2014, 12:30:17 PM

I ve been looking around a little in some other sub forums for other coins and the thing is, everyone is so confident in their own coins! I mean, we all know the reasons were so confident in XC, it seems so blatantly clear, but, like two of you have just said, you were dead cert on other coins and it went tits up.

No one else has had such an open dev team is that correct? The fact Dans linkedin was posted was the single reason I got into XC in the first place, and we've come a long way since then with the new team members, site, wallet, etc etc

I guess simply patience is key. if it gets below the 14's im gonna bust out another BTC. f**k it. lol

In all fairness to me, the other coin I mentioned was Namecoin and it's still #8 on the coin market cap list. It's not dead yet.
The one thing my 3 main holdings have in common is an open and transparent development team. I don't think any coin will go mainstream without this and I believe it 100%. Before anyone mentions Satoshi, BTC has a huge team of developers that are publicly identified. Some of them even worked with Satoshi, so as far as I'm concerned BTC already has a transparent team and foundation.

To the person that says CLOAK is a competitor, you need to ask yourself a couple of questions and step outside of your current opinion to answer it. Do you see the public accepting a coin named "CLOAK", developed by an unknown person? This is a very simple yet important question. The answer seems obvious to me.

Good points all round.

JakeThePanda

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Quote from: _evolution_ on July 15, 2014, 12:41:21 PM

Quote from: JakeThePanda on July 15, 2014, 12:25:07 PM

Quote from: _evolution_ on July 15, 2014, 12:20:59 PM

Just my 2 cents:

You aren't a true XC believer yet, obviously.

Just my 2 XCs

obviously the rich list rank is on another opinion

Where you rank on the rich list isn't a complete measure of your conviction. How much XC do you own relative to your net worth would be a better measure.

_evolution_

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Quote from: JakeThePanda on July 15, 2014, 12:25:07 PM

Quote from: _evolution_ on July 15, 2014, 12:20:59 PM

Just my 2 cents:

You aren't a true XC believer yet, obviously.

Just my 2 XCs

obviously the rich list rank is on another opinion

G-Bert

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Quote from: oblox on July 15, 2014, 12:37:57 PM

Quote from: _evolution_ on July 15, 2014, 12:33:30 PM

Quote from: merk475 on July 15, 2014, 12:28:55 PM

Quote from: oblox on July 15, 2014, 12:25:41 PM

Quote from: _evolution_ on July 15, 2014, 12:20:59 PM

Just my 2 cents: hold your XC coins if you don't mind owning toys like Rolls-Royce Phantom. The adequate price is at least 0.2 btc, however we should be patient, Dan does not have 100 pairs of hands. The price fluctuations don't mean anything in short terms, the project needs to mature, like any other serious software project.

If you are going to pull numbers out of your ass, justify your reasoning.

This is crypto....everyone pulls numbers out of their asses.

Especially this gentleman @oblox, he seems to have huge experience with asses and pulling.

Ah yes, resorting to childish behavior, how assy.

(im messing, lets keep things light hearted ay)

JakeThePanda

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Quote from: G-Bert on July 15, 2014, 12:30:17 PM

I ve been looking around a little in some other sub forums for other coins and the thing is, everyone is so confident in their own coins! I mean, we all know the reasons were so confident in XC, it seems so blatantly clear, but, like two of you have just said, you were dead cert on other coins and it went tits up.

No one else has had such an open dev team is that correct? The fact Dans linkedin was posted was the single reason I got into XC in the first place, and we've come a long way since then with the new team members, site, wallet, etc etc

I guess simply patience is key. if it gets below the 14's im gonna bust out another BTC. f**k it. lol

In all fairness to me, the other coin I mentioned was Namecoin and it's still #8 on the coin market cap list. It's not dead yet.
The one thing my 3 main holdings have in common is an open and transparent development team. I don't think any coin will go mainstream without this and I believe it 100%. Before anyone mentions Satoshi, BTC has a huge team of developers that are publicly identified. Some of them even worked with Satoshi, so as far as I'm concerned BTC already has a transparent team and foundation.

To the person that says CLOAK is a competitor, you need to ask yourself a couple of questions and step outside of your current opinion to answer it. Do you see the public accepting a coin named "CLOAK", developed by an unknown person? This is a very simple yet important question. The answer seems obvious to me.

G-Bert

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Quote from: demgains on July 15, 2014, 12:33:07 PM

Quote from: G-Bert on July 15, 2014, 12:18:28 PM

Quote from: demgains on July 15, 2014, 12:11:03 PM

If it means anything, I think there is a large consensus in our community that feel XC is almost as safe and risk free as BTC investments. But then again, do what you gotta do... In the end we'll all be laughing

I know, recently I have felt that XC is as safe as BTC, just... you never know for sure. its all a big gamble either way really.

I Will be happy when this PoS issue is sorted. I was talking to a fella last week about CLOAK who said their dev had found an issue with PoS and they have fixed it. (or were in the process of)

If theres an issue Im confident Dan can fix it.

Cloak is XC's only competition in the long run I think. Alt coins need competition though to drive the devs to expand the offerings of their respective coins.

I'm still a firm believer in XC however, Cloak seems to centered towards the crypto world while XC is striving to expand towards the entirety of population

1) why is Cloak competition? in my very limited knowledge, they use ring signatures which i thought was a blockchain bloat problem? (could be wrong here)

2) I agree 100% - I dont know any other coins that have the future plans of XC. main thing for the general population is a VERY simple GUI wallet, a way to buy XC in wallet, anon messaging as simple as whatssap. when we got that, We got the silkroad etc market too I'd expect. Is the darknet aware of XC yet???

oblox

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Quote from: _evolution_ on July 15, 2014, 12:33:30 PM

Quote from: merk475 on July 15, 2014, 12:28:55 PM

Quote from: oblox on July 15, 2014, 12:25:41 PM

Quote from: _evolution_ on July 15, 2014, 12:20:59 PM

Just my 2 cents: hold your XC coins if you don't mind owning toys like Rolls-Royce Phantom. The adequate price is at least 0.2 btc, however we should be patient, Dan does not have 100 pairs of hands. The price fluctuations don't mean anything in short terms, the project needs to mature, like any other serious software project.

If you are going to pull numbers out of your ass, justify your reasoning.

This is crypto....everyone pulls numbers out of their asses.

Especially this gentleman @oblox, he seems to have huge experience with asses and pulling.

Ah yes, resorting to childish behavior, how classy.

_evolution_

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Quote from: merk475 on July 15, 2014, 12:28:55 PM

Quote from: oblox on July 15, 2014, 12:25:41 PM

Quote from: _evolution_ on July 15, 2014, 12:20:59 PM

Just my 2 cents: hold your XC coins if you don't mind owning toys like Rolls-Royce Phantom. The adequate price is at least 0.2 btc, however we should be patient, Dan does not have 100 pairs of hands. The price fluctuations don't mean anything in short terms, the project needs to mature, like any other serious software project.

If you are going to pull numbers out of your ass, justify your reasoning.

This is crypto....everyone pulls numbers out of their asses.

Especially this gentleman @oblox, he seems to have huge experience with asses and pulling.

demgains

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Quote from: G-Bert on July 15, 2014, 12:18:28 PM

Quote from: demgains on July 15, 2014, 12:11:03 PM

If it means anything, I think there is a large consensus in our community that feel XC is almost as safe and risk free as BTC investments. But then again, do what you gotta do... In the end we'll all be laughing

I know, recently I have felt that XC is as safe as BTC, just... you never know for sure. its all a big gamble either way really.

I Will be happy when this PoS issue is sorted. I was talking to a fella last week about CLOAK who said their dev had found an issue with PoS and they have fixed it. (or were in the process of)

If theres an issue Im confident Dan can fix it.

Cloak is XC's only competition in the long run I think. Alt coins need competition though to drive the devs to expand the offerings of their respective coins.

I'm still a firm believer in XC however, Cloak seems to centered towards the crypto world while XC is striving to expand towards the entirety of population

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