Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1137. (Read 4671920 times)

I am not apart of the core team, nor have I any close affiliation with Monero. But, I've taken precautions against just that, I'm willing to give free domains (Yes, they are high quality) to anyone wanting to build websites revolving around Monero, simply to combat domain ransoming this early on in the game.

We could put up 10 forums tomorrow or 10 websites tomorrow.  We already have 2-3 of each. Executing is not hard. We're trying to build a consensus here. Consensus is the hard part in an open source project.

It took 7+ months or so to build consensus and finally settle the emission issue, right? And that had nothing to do with any extra work. It was just a decision. So consensus is an area where XMR is struggling a bit. I'm not talking about work or execution

Is there a system for linking BBS's?

I can make a mybb one too, ill transfer the ownership to the core team

There already was a SMF forum setup for monero by Anon336 (or whatever three numbers postcede Anon), I forget the URL (maybe it was moneroforum.org, and now that redirects to forum.monero.cc?). There's also this forum which predates the SMF one: https://monerotalk.org/ .

Dedicated XMR Forum should be the responsibility of MEW, but they are too interested in playing a game.

I will setup an SMF forum or something else just like bitcointalk for monero on monerotalk.com as a freebie with my domains

Why does the dev have to do it? As argued here already why doesn't the dev focus on Monero itself then a user, perhaps one of you who want a classic forum, can go start a classic forum. Rather than complain, execute.

I also agree with greek, I have no use for reddit or that style board.

Users first. If users prefer solution B and you advocate solution A, what will you do? Decide for the user? Bad user, change user? I don't see it as the proper way to cater for user.
The good thing, though, it that it doesn't matter: What matters is to have a  WYSIWYG editor when replying. For the moment, when I reply, I do not have one. Lot of people don't edit Wikipedia because of the wiki syntax. WYSIWYG just fix that.



The WYSIWYG appears some time, but I could not reproduce it yet. In any case, get a WYSIWYG toolbar and most people will strop complaining about the underlying language.

greek has made a point here - I am with the crew that the core of monero should be as close to perfect as possible. but with the rest there is room for gradual improvement.

at this point of time xmr is seen at best as an elitist project and at worst as a lame duck (no gui, old looking internet presence) - the core group knows why, especially regarding protocol it all takes time, but there is nothing wrong with a better website.

I am not close to computer sciences but I know two professional groups who build nice websites for 600-800$ - I think within the community there are people who would do it for much less and also would reach a sufficient outcome.

mymonero for example has a nice layout.

Selling all of them - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/15-monero-domains-price-update-954512

Im not after huge profits, i dont care if 10500 XMR amounts to 10 BTC or 1 BTC, i just need monero

So true. XMR is a lot like a startup. Limited money. Limited time. "The Lean Startup" is all about scientifically figuring out what's going to work without wasting time and money. According to that book, one of the biggest pitfalls is in spending lots of time and effort trying to make the perfect thing with all the perfect features from the start.

MyMonero was a great success here. It's clean looking and functional. It doesn't have address books, and accounting features,  non-English mnemonic accounts, etc. but it doesn't matter. That can all be added later. Actually having a functional webwallet now that I'm actually using personally is great.  And maybe so few people will be interested in some of those additional features that we'll realize that we don't need them this year. And maybe we won't need them next year or ever.

I will start by stating that my writing skills, both in Greek and English are terrible. I am trying to be 100% friendly and when something i write looks like complaints, for me its more like chatting with a friend.

Fluffy i am not complaining. Criticism and discussions are not bad. You maybe say that because i had asked about the wiki before. You answered me. Your reply was fine with me.

Thing is we all know, as you have said, that resources and time you (the team) are dedicating to monero generally are and should be finite. And you guys have great ideas with great background thinking BUT finite time to make EVERYTHING work flawlessly.

So i dont get why we cant have forum.monero.cc that is going to be exactly what you have envisioned in the future (and take your time to create it) and tempforum.monero.cc that is going to be an insecure(with a big warning that this is an insecure forum), temporary, non scalable, old school, everyoneknowshowtouse,mostly bug free forum...

Because you ask me to list critical things. There is nothing critical about a forum. But right now the ones we have are just not productive. And personally i would prefer time allocated to other things than the forum. I think you also want this. I dont want to bother you about the forum. Thats also a reason why i want a typical oldschool one... (ofc i am NOT the one that i am going to say to you where you are going to allocate your time!)

At last, if you dont accept that, tell me conservative. But remember, i am not the only one. I would argue that half the people here wont take the effort to learn how to use a new forum and prefer the one they already know.

We need a community for many reasons. And we need a community as early as possible. More people aboard mean more help, more ideas and also not having 50% of XMR allocated to 100-1000 people. Right now we have great guides, great posts (especially davids posts) and great discussions all over the internet. I personally want them at a single place. Random people wont get attracted easily without that. And a stronger community can bring even more people aboard. I know that software isnt yet ready for the broader crypto community. But let us be sincere and tell them this and they can decide by themselves.

But if you want a complaint , here have one: Where is the official webpage that was supposed to be coming in 2-4 weeks(that was in June if i am not mistaken). At least some updates! Because whoever gets on official webpage right now might thing that the project is abandoned! Hell, there is a 'NEW' there from May

tl;dr. My opinion is that you must not try to create EVERYTHING from the scratch and PERFECT simply because you dont have the time and because nothing can be perfect. Some things have to be done half right, at least for now. And again, if we were talking in person i could be better at explaining what i mean and you could better understand that it is positive chatting.

There not "all" registered. There are countless other variations of equal or better quality to those being spammed on the thread. None of them have any value until someone uses them to develop valuable content.

Heh - the Markdown thing was a jab, but seriously it's so much better than BBCode and raw HTML for posts, and it's a LOT easier for us to handle security implications.

On the infinite scrolling thing, we already handle pagination if you browse with JavaScript disabled:


We can definitely add a user setting to disable infinite scrolling in lieu of pagination.

We'll have to give some thought as to how we highlight jumped-to comments in short threads.

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Its better to keep your mouth shut when you dont know shit. I am no sqautter. Been a long term supporter of monero, go check my posts on the first monero thread. Lost my stash to a drive format. Theres no other way i can make it back, its work for some people. I am not selling these to just anybody, be glad, its better if core team acquires them.

Hey fuck you for laying siege on cool monero domains and then trying to pat the devs on the back.

What a goddamned hero.

Yea thats why these domains are selling for cheap now. If Monero goes somewhere, it surely will. You are the devs, trust yourself. These domains will be worth so much more. Only the speculators will buy these domains