[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1172.

fluffypony

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 21, 2015, 12:34:54 AM

Quote from: pa on January 20, 2015, 11:36:55 AM

Personally, even though I've contributed to the general dev fund and expect to do so again, I'd rather contribute to sub-campaigns aimed at the development of specific features. (No doubt this preference is based on some cognitive illusion, but there it is.)

Mental artifacts or not, I'm hesitant to contribute to the general fund because I disagree with resources being used for non-core missions like Yet Another Forum Software.

OTOH, a 'Darkfunding' .onion/eepsite would be immediately useful as a platform for further "sub-campaigns aimed at the development of specific features."

You read our year-end report, right? Not a single satoshi of the 47.58 BTC we received in donations was spent on the forum software, and only a very small portion of the 164.5 BTC the core team personally put in was spent on that.

ArticMine

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Quote from: aminorex on January 20, 2015, 11:50:42 PM

http://m.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/01/without-drugs-whats-the-point-of-bitcoin/384622/

hardcore bitcoiners are in for a rude awekening:

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The same features that made Silk Road possible have now turned against him, and casual observers are realizing that Bitcoin isn’t as anonymous as they thought.

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Ironically, it would have been much easier to conceal these assets in the traditional financial system. Conventional money laundering is still an enormous headache for prosecutors, and subpoenaing the transaction records for an offshore bank is much harder than simply checking the blockchain.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/14/7546669/silk-road-trial-bitcoin-tracking

I'm still against use of cryptocurrencies for illegal stuff but this shows how much undeserved credit Bitcoin has received, credit that will be deposited in Monero soon.

The key is that in the Ross Ulbricht case the prosecution has access to the Bitcoin private keys and can trace all the transactions, via the blockchain. Even in the case of Monero. If the prosecution has access to the private keys the anonymity would be broken. They would for example know the money that was received but not the address of who sent it. Now if they can get the address information from enough of the buyers then they have a very strong case since they have many buyers testifying that they sent x amount of crypto currency in payment for drugs to a given address and they also have the evidence that that particular address and the corresponding private keys belong the the person they are prosecuting.

By the way fungibility for innocent third parties is the real killer application for Monero over Bitcoin here.

Edit: XMR in this situation is like a Denarius. It was valid across the Roman Empire, regardless of whether a Carthaginian has handled that particular Denarius at one point. A more modern example would be US currency used to purchase goods and services in Cuba.

iCEBREAKER

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Quote from: pa on January 20, 2015, 11:36:55 AM

Personally, even though I've contributed to the general dev fund and expect to do so again, I'd rather contribute to sub-campaigns aimed at the development of specific features. (No doubt this preference is based on some cognitive illusion, but there it is.)

Mental artifacts or not, I'm hesitant to contribute to the general fund because I disagree with resources being used for non-core missions like Yet Another Forum Software.

OTOH, a 'Darkfunding' .onion/eepsite would be immediately useful as a platform for further "sub-campaigns aimed at the development of specific features."

ArticMine

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Quote from: smooth on January 20, 2015, 01:18:39 AM

Quote from: stslimited on January 20, 2015, 12:09:56 AM

Quote from: stslimited on January 19, 2015, 11:30:57 AM

Every day the database merge doesn't reach production, Monero declines in practicality

I pointed out a truth, not a demand

And again I dispute the truth of your claim. Moore's law in memory is outpacing Monero blockchain growth currently. I'd love to have a database working perfectly yesterday, but every day that goes by (given current trends), practicality of the existing solution increases not decreases.

(Given a hypothetical supertrend explosion of Monero usage I acknowledge the memory size limit will be an issue.)

A supertrend explosion of Monero usage could easily occur if the bulls get back control of Bitcoin and trigger the 1 MB blocksize limit. Ironically the current bear market in Bitcoin is giving the Monero project much needed time for the database development. For this reason a bear market in Bitcoin until the database in completed suites me just fine.

aminorex

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http://m.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/01/without-drugs-whats-the-point-of-bitcoin/384622/

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Thanks.

Quote from: smooth on January 20, 2015, 05:03:39 PM

Click on the "city map" link on the thread mentioned below.

Quote from: wpalczynski on January 20, 2015, 04:58:59 PM

Can I see what the map looks like?

Is the link public?

5w00p

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CryptoKingdom info, as supplied to me by saddambitcoin:

Buildings, etc database (Map): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ln1LSQwPajGNMhtQ8LieWKyQ4rgo-Vnr6-NHkx-Ee00/edit?pli=1#gid=412874366

Another Database: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tgIzgMza7NQsTpMO9pHke1ZVXYH7l5Sj5bHdZHItivo/edit?pli=1#gid=1503284768

Rulebook: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8bqiuTGRuKpaFRXak9HNG1jYjQ/view?pli=1

smooth

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Click on the "city map" link on the thread mentioned below.

Quote from: wpalczynski on January 20, 2015, 04:58:59 PM

Can I see what the map looks like?

Is the link public?

Quote from: saddambitcoin on January 20, 2015, 04:51:32 PM

Quote from: florida.haunted on January 20, 2015, 06:43:44 AM

Quote from: rpietila on January 19, 2015, 04:30:34 PM

Quote from: fluffypony on January 19, 2015, 12:33:41 PM

Quote from: stslimited on January 19, 2015, 11:30:57 AM

Every day the database merge doesn't reach production, Monero declines in practicality

Just to clarify - how much have you personally donated to cover the hundreds of man-hours that have been spent on the blockchainDB and lmdb implementation? Because hey, buddy, if you're not commensurately paying for it then you don't have permission to demand anything. At all. Ever.

And there *IS* a practical way to donate, it is in CryptoKingdom the Game

Just tell to donate to Monero House, and every day a sum that you choose, no matter how small or big, is given to the developers!

My donation is 5 XMR/day

Is 'CryptoKingdom' somewhat an online game?
Can you describe this way of donation with links of how-to?

CryptoKingdom is online, there is a site in development but right now the gameplay happens in this forum, IRC, and the character database + map is on Google.

Check out the thread here for more info: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/crypto-kingdom-1991-retro-virtual-worldcity-819073

And PM me if you want to join the game!

wpalczynski

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Can I see what the map looks like?

Is the link public?

Quote from: saddambitcoin on January 20, 2015, 04:51:32 PM

Quote from: florida.haunted on January 20, 2015, 06:43:44 AM

Quote from: rpietila on January 19, 2015, 04:30:34 PM

Quote from: fluffypony on January 19, 2015, 12:33:41 PM

Quote from: stslimited on January 19, 2015, 11:30:57 AM

Every day the database merge doesn't reach production, Monero declines in practicality

Just to clarify - how much have you personally donated to cover the hundreds of man-hours that have been spent on the blockchainDB and lmdb implementation? Because hey, buddy, if you're not commensurately paying for it then you don't have permission to demand anything. At all. Ever.

And there *IS* a practical way to donate, it is in CryptoKingdom the Game

Just tell to donate to Monero House, and every day a sum that you choose, no matter how small or big, is given to the developers!

My donation is 5 XMR/day

Is 'CryptoKingdom' somewhat an online game?
Can you describe this way of donation with links of how-to?

CryptoKingdom is online, there is a site in development but right now the gameplay happens in this forum, IRC, and the character database + map is on Google.

Check out the thread here for more info: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/crypto-kingdom-1991-retro-virtual-worldcity-819073

And PM me if you want to join the game!

saddambitcoin

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Quote from: florida.haunted on January 20, 2015, 06:43:44 AM

Quote from: rpietila on January 19, 2015, 04:30:34 PM

Quote from: fluffypony on January 19, 2015, 12:33:41 PM

Quote from: stslimited on January 19, 2015, 11:30:57 AM

Every day the database merge doesn't reach production, Monero declines in practicality

Just to clarify - how much have you personally donated to cover the hundreds of man-hours that have been spent on the blockchainDB and lmdb implementation? Because hey, buddy, if you're not commensurately paying for it then you don't have permission to demand anything. At all. Ever.

And there *IS* a practical way to donate, it is in CryptoKingdom the Game

Just tell to donate to Monero House, and every day a sum that you choose, no matter how small or big, is given to the developers!

My donation is 5 XMR/day

Is 'CryptoKingdom' somewhat an online game?
Can you describe this way of donation with links of how-to?

CryptoKingdom is online, there is a site in development but right now the gameplay happens in this forum, IRC, and the character database + map is on Google.

Check out the thread here for more info: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/crypto-kingdom-1991-retro-virtual-worldcity-819073

And PM me if you want to join the game!

pa

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Quote from: fluffypony on January 20, 2015, 10:55:09 AM

Quote from: Miki on January 20, 2015, 10:31:33 AM

Quote from: pa on January 20, 2015, 10:24:40 AM

Now that Mike Hearn's Lighthouse crowdfunding app is out, let's figure out how to use it to raise funds for Monero development: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t1an9/bitcoinpowered_crowdfunding_app_lighthouse_has/

Yes, lets throw more Monero at scammers... Haven't heard anything from Atrides in a while...

He's setup a private group to keep contributors updated. His last activity in there was a couple of days ago.

Although I think pa was referring more to core Monero development rather than peripheral projects:)

Yes I was referring to core Monero development. Personally, even though I've contributed to the general dev fund and expect to do so again, I'd rather contribute to sub-campaigns aimed at the development of specific features. (No doubt this preference is based on some cognitive illusion, but there it is.)

fluffypony

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Quote from: Miki on January 20, 2015, 10:31:33 AM

Quote from: pa on January 20, 2015, 10:24:40 AM

Now that Mike Hearn's Lighthouse crowdfunding app is out, let's figure out how to use it to raise funds for Monero development: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t1an9/bitcoinpowered_crowdfunding_app_lighthouse_has/

Yes, lets throw more Monero at scammers... Haven't heard anything from Atrides in a while...

He's setup a private group to keep contributors updated. His last activity in there was a couple of days ago.

Although I think pa was referring more to core Monero development rather than peripheral projects:)

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Quote from: Miki on January 20, 2015, 10:31:33 AM

Quote from: pa on January 20, 2015, 10:24:40 AM

Now that Mike Hearn's Lighthouse crowdfunding app is out, let's figure out how to use it to raise funds for Monero development: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t1an9/bitcoinpowered_crowdfunding_app_lighthouse_has/

Yes, lets throw more Monero at scammers... Haven't heard anything from Atrides in a while...

Quote from: Atrides on January 14, 2015, 05:09:37 PM

we want to start. I will PM a link to created group to all FreeBazaar backers to discuss different aspects.

He's active on the forum - he didn't disappear. Development takes time (apparently). I don't code so I don't know.

Of course, it might take less time if everyone listened to http://www.psychedelik.com/dark.html

dark psy!!!!

Miki

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Quote from: pa on January 20, 2015, 10:24:40 AM

Now that Mike Hearn's Lighthouse crowdfunding app is out, let's figure out how to use it to raise funds for Monero development: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t1an9/bitcoinpowered_crowdfunding_app_lighthouse_has/

Yes, lets throw more Monero at scammers... Haven't heard anything from Atrides in a while...

pa

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Now that Mike Hearn's Lighthouse crowdfunding app is out, let's figure out how to use it to raise funds for Monero development: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t1an9/bitcoinpowered_crowdfunding_app_lighthouse_has/

onemorebtc

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Quote from: catotune on January 20, 2015, 10:12:10 AM

I've been using mymonero.com and really liking it (thanks devs!) - but today I keep getting "Server Error" when I try to log in.

Is anyone else seeing this?

it works for me

catotune

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Meow

I've been using mymonero.com and really liking it (thanks devs!) - but today I keep getting "Server Error" when I try to log in.

Is anyone else seeing this?

saddambitcoin

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Happy > 400000 Monero block day! Cool

fluffypony

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Subah is a badly coded spaem bot.
it is too stupid to make post sense
you can't understand it 1. bit.
it is use by scammer.
its grammar BAD.
Subah have subah potato.

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Whats the point of such bots? Just for creating members to sell?

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