Guys, nobody is making any decisions on anything right now. Thus far, there have been a few scattered suggestions, but there hasn't been even one formal, well-defined, thoroughly analysed, well documented proposal. Calls for us (the Core Team) to make a decision or a statement just leave us scratching our heads and saying "turn down for what?"
This frenzied back-and-forth in posts littered with veiled threats and promises are posts driven by emotion. Of course I personally have extremely strong feelings in this matter, but is this the time and place to be discussing it? It is not.
Nothing is on the table or off the table, because there is no table just yet. The constant attacks, both actual and threatened, have left us running around chasing our tails for a month. Now is not the time or create disarray and suck up time in circuitous debates. There will be a time and place for that in the not too distant future.
I would respectfully request that if you insist on discussing this, that any and all comments or posts discussing ideas around "dev blocks", miner tax, adjusting the emission curve, threats to sell your stash if X happens, calls for the core team to wade through walls of posts and make some comment, and anything of that nature be taken to the MEW thread or anywhere else.
Let's, please, solidify ourselves and retain some degree of unity as we restart our activities and reevaluate our priorities, and we can have these in-depth and controversial discussions once the smoke has cleared.
Thanks, and 100% agreement from me.
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wasn't even a proposal to vote, and still some in here reacted as if Monero was about to be hijacked by special interest groups. In fact, the careful reader will have noticed that a number of posters (including me) said that a more structured discussion on those topic
should take place another time, not in the current turmoil.I do want to point out one asymmetry in this discussion: as I said above, the (rather cautious) proponents of e.g. emission change, said "discussion on this topic another time". To which the
opponents answered in absolute terms ("out of the question"), and emotional threats to sell their stash right now, unless the devs sign a declaration of code immutability.
If I were cynical I'd respond "I don't see price crashing? Guess your stash wasn't that big after all."
I also want, for the record, state very clearly what *was* and what was *not* actually discussed so far:
1) the 'emission' discussion and the 'dev funding' discussion have been, but should not to be conflated. There was at least one proposal that entered into both areas, but the majority of funding proposals had nothing to do with emission.
Keep the two topics separate, please.2) the "pro" arguments for emission change have been grossly misrepresented. Nobody ever argued to change emission so that the exchange rate would go higher. The *actual* argument in favor of slowing emission, in a nutshell: a big share of Monero will be mined rather soon (compared to, say, how Bitcoin does it), and some of us are worried that this could hamper the long-term potential of Monero.
The argument "You want to change emission to pump & dump, or fill your pockets" is a complete strawman.I'm going to let this topic rest now (unless there is a response that misrepresents my position). I will however say, as I said before, that this is in a sense a community project, and statements by some in here "that topic X isn't even up for discussion" are naive in the context of such a project (not addressed at you, fluffypony) ....
There will be several difficult decisions the dev team (and the community) will have to make in the future, completely unrelated to emission or dev funding, and we will have to come up with methods to gauge what the consensus (or at least: majority opinion) is on those topics. Shouting "If you do X, I will leave!" is perhaps the least helpful response in developing such methods.
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