[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1441.

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Quote from: fluffypony on September 16, 2014, 12:31:14 PM

Quote from: Bassica on September 16, 2014, 11:26:43 AM

How much money BTC/xmr/$ in donations is (approx) needed to get an ETA of the following:

- Embedded DB solution/implementation --> $14 500 (as posted on reddit)
- Convertion of C-code
- Finished (official) GUI
- C++ version of the I2P router (IP obfuscation)
- ... (blockchain bloat issue?)

It might help to have some funding goals, so that as a community, we can work to certain points more rapidly. Maybe the Monero Committee (or whatever is called) can do something with this?

I'm thumb-sucking numbers, don't take these guesstimates as anything actual or realistic.

- Embedded DB solution/implementation - 6 man weeks is a pretty solid guess, so I'll leave the $14 500
- Convertion of C-code - it's not as simple as this. Apart from this specific item, there needs to be an incremental audit and refactor. Just because the bug was lurking in a piece of C code with this doesn't mean there can't be a bug elsewhere, it's just easier to obfuscate it in C. Holistically this is an active, ongoing task, that will likely end up costing in the $80k - $140k range over many, many months.
- Finished (official) GUI - assuming all the other pieces are in place, then dEBRUYNE is correct - anything from $15k - $20k.
- C++ version of the I2P router (IP obfuscation) - this is already making rapid progress: https://github.com/PrivacySolutions/i2pd. To get it to a point where it's usable and implementable as submodule / library I'd imagine is easily a $50k job, but I'm guessing at what orignal's hourly is.
- ... (blockchain bloat issue?) - not really an issue, and I'm unsure as to what we'd consider "solving" it. A linear reduction? A lightweight access methodology that heavily reduces the need for local storage / bandwidth? The amount of experimentation and research needed here to find a cryptographically sound "solution" makes it hard to pin a value down.

Is there anywhere we can see the current dev fund status / amount?

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Quote from: fluffypony on September 16, 2014, 12:31:14 PM

Just because the bug was lurking in a piece of C code with this doesn't mean there can't be a bug elsewhere, it's just easier to obfuscate it in C.

I can assure you that it is much, much easier to obfuscate a bug in C++ than in C. C++ lacks a tradition is all. After all, C++ includes C.

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Quote from: Bassica on September 16, 2014, 11:26:43 AM

How much money BTC/xmr/$ in donations is (approx) needed to get an ETA of the following:

- Embedded DB solution/implementation --> $14 500 (as posted on reddit)
- Convertion of C-code
- Finished (official) GUI
- C++ version of the I2P router (IP obfuscation)
- ... (blockchain bloat issue?)

It might help to have some funding goals, so that as a community, we can work to certain points more rapidly. Maybe the Monero Committee (or whatever is called) can do something with this?

I'm thumb-sucking numbers, don't take these guesstimates as anything actual or realistic.

- Embedded DB solution/implementation - 6 man weeks is a pretty solid guess, so I'll leave the $14 500
- Convertion of C-code - it's not as simple as this. Apart from this specific item, there needs to be an incremental audit and refactor. Just because the bug was lurking in a piece of C code with this doesn't mean there can't be a bug elsewhere, it's just easier to obfuscate it in C. Holistically this is an active, ongoing task, that will likely end up costing in the $80k - $140k range over many, many months.
- Finished (official) GUI - assuming all the other pieces are in place, then dEBRUYNE is correct - anything from $15k - $20k.
- C++ version of the I2P router (IP obfuscation) - this is already making rapid progress: https://github.com/PrivacySolutions/i2pd. To get it to a point where it's usable and implementable as submodule / library I'd imagine is easily a $50k job, but I'm guessing at what orignal's hourly is.
- ... (blockchain bloat issue?) - not really an issue, and I'm unsure as to what we'd consider "solving" it. A linear reduction? A lightweight access methodology that heavily reduces the need for local storage / bandwidth? The amount of experimentation and research needed here to find a cryptographically sound "solution" makes it hard to pin a value down.

dEBRUYNE

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Quote from: Bassica on September 16, 2014, 11:26:43 AM

How much money BTC/xmr/$ in donations is (approx) needed to get an ETA of the following:

- Embedded DB solution/implementation --> $14 500 (as posted on reddit)
- Convertion of C-code
- Finished (official) GUI
- C++ version of the I2P router (IP obfuscation)
- ... (blockchain bloat issue?)

It might help to have some funding goals, so that as a community, we can work to certain points more rapidly. Maybe the Monero Committee (or whatever is called) can do something with this?

Few weeks ago fluffypony said that Finished GUI would cost around 15-18k or something IIRC, calculated using work hours.

Bassica

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How much money BTC/xmr/$ in donations is (approx) needed to get an ETA of the following:

- Embedded DB solution/implementation --> $14 500 (as posted on reddit)
- Convertion of C-code
- Finished (official) GUI
- C++ version of the I2P router (IP obfuscation)
- ... (blockchain bloat issue?)

It might help to have some funding goals, so that as a community, we can work to certain points more rapidly. Maybe the Monero Committee (or whatever is called) can do something with this?

binaryFate

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Still wild and free

What's up with monerochain.info? They've been down for few days now.

neverminer77

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Quote from: Hotmetal on September 15, 2014, 06:06:50 AM

Quote from: superbd on September 15, 2014, 05:45:29 AM

Reading articles about Monero I found a term POW. And i didn't find any more info about it than "proven value creation". What does it mean?

Proof Of Work.

PoW, PoS those are basics. There are literally hundreds of web pages explaining what those are.

I'd start from here:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_work

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Quote from: tacotime on September 15, 2014, 05:55:25 PM

Quote from: GreekBitcoin on September 15, 2014, 05:52:04 PM

Very nice!

Two things:
1) You have probably already asked Zazzle about accepting monero but i would urge you to try a bit more or at least find someone who is willing to accept xmr and pay them in fiat. I would really like to see my XMR being used for buying these things!
2) Any (risky) timetable about blockchain and that awesome GUI? Or maybe we can wait until Friday's chat? Cheesy

There are a couple of companies waiting the do 1), we told them to wait for proper GUI and blockchain.

Would you mind telling the names of those companies? if it's not a secret of course

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Quote from: Afros on September 16, 2014, 05:08:03 AM

I apologize in advance if this question has already been answered but is there a way to add a password in an existing (without password) wallet?

I thought when you create the wallet, you have to choose a password.

Afros

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I apologize in advance if this question has already been answered but is there a way to add a password in an existing (without password) wallet?

smooth

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Quote from: nioc on September 15, 2014, 10:31:36 PM

TY Smooth I have my new wallet!! I have backed up the keys file.

It created a new seed. I just updated all my btc and XMR info today and put it in a safe deposit box as well as another location. Now I need to update again.

Thanks again Smooth.

You're welcome, glad it worked!

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Quote from: smooth on September 15, 2014, 08:59:48 PM

Quote from: infested999 on September 15, 2014, 08:50:43 PM

Wouldn't the fee have to be paid for each chunk, thus increasing the fee?

You can try to maximize the amount you send in each transaction for the current fixed fee. That's all that would happen if the transaction could automatically be broken up. So start with a larger amount and gradually decrease it until it works. That should be close to the maximum size transaction (so minimum fee per byte).

This is what I do. Usually it is close to 20kB.

nioc

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TY Smooth I have my new wallet!! I have backed up the keys file.

It created a new seed. I just updated all my btc and XMR info today and put it in a safe deposit box as well as another location. Now I need to update again.

Thanks again Smooth.

smooth

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Quote from: nioc on September 15, 2014, 10:19:31 PM

simplewallet --wallet name-of-your-keys-file-without-.keys
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So just type in the name of my wallet?

There is a reason I am The Drooling Masses® although I am motivated.

I'm restarting the daemon which will take a few minutes.
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Yes. If your keys file is called mywallet.bin.keys then use

simplewallet --wallet mywallet.bin

It will take the keys file, recreate the bin file, and rescan the blockchain to find your coins.

nioc

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[/quote]

simplewallet --wallet name-of-your-keys-file-without-.keys
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So just type in the name of my wallet?

There is a reason I am The Drooling Masses® although I am motivated.

I'm restarting the daemon which will take a few minutes.

smooth

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Quote from: nioc on September 15, 2014, 10:12:39 PM

Quote from: smooth on September 15, 2014, 10:01:16 PM

Quote from: nioc on September 15, 2014, 09:58:47 PM

I have the keys file.

If you have the keys file that's all you need.

1. Backup keys file securely before messing with it (make sure to back up any other wallets as well).

2. Make sure there are no conflicting wallet files with the same name

3. Load the keys file into simplewallet normally. It will regenerate the wallet.bin file.

I don't understand #3

How do I load the keys file into simple wallet "normally"?

simplewallet --wallet name-of-your-keys-file-without-.keys

nioc

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Quote from: smooth on September 15, 2014, 10:01:16 PM

Quote from: nioc on September 15, 2014, 09:58:47 PM

I have the keys file.

If you have the keys file that's all you need.

1. Backup keys file securely before messing with it (make sure to back up any other wallets as well).

2. Make sure there are no conflicting wallet files with the same name

3. Load the keys file into simplewallet normally. It will regenerate the wallet.bin file.

I don't understand #3

How do I load the keys file into simple wallet "normally"?

smooth

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Quote from: nioc on September 15, 2014, 09:58:47 PM

I have the keys file.

If you have the keys file that's all you need.

1. Backup keys file securely before messing with it (make sure to back up any other wallets as well).

2. Make sure there are no conflicting wallet files with the same name

3. Load the keys file into simplewallet normally. It will regenerate the wallet.bin file.

iCEBREAKER

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Quote from: infested999 on September 15, 2014, 08:31:48 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 15, 2014, 08:16:01 PM

What is the downside to keeping transaction fees high? Shouldn't the blockchain continue selling it's scarce real estate at a premium, given XMR's exclusive features of high liquidity privacy-as-a-service?

scare real estate? The network can handle many more transactions then it does now

"Scarce" is a relative term. Since ring signatures preclude pruning and have only been trimmed linearly at this point, and because of its popularity/liquidity, Monero's blockchain should be sold for whatever price the market will bear, probably at a price point above all other crypto real estate. Charging less may be a subsidy, and reduce incentives important elsewhere. If you subsidize bloat, you get more of it, which means you need more resources to run a full node.

Getting the incentives right is the key to decentralized scaling. So far, so good.

The Lab logo/colors is better than the original. I demand MRS mugs and t-shirts!

smooth

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Quote from: spatula on September 15, 2014, 09:55:08 PM

Quote from: albert3 on September 15, 2014, 09:48:03 PM

Quote from: tacotime

This usually happens if it fails to find a way to make a tx within the given max tx size. I would try sending smaller amounts.

yeah i was able to send 100 XMR , seems 100 at a time is my max I can send from this wallet , actually the tx is not that bad if I can send 100 XMR at a time Grin

Around 100 XMR per transaction seems to be my limit as well.

It depends on the value of your inputs. I don't know the exact cutoff but if you aren't using mixing you can fit around 200 inputs in one transaction. So at 0.5 XMR per input that would be around 100 XMR. If your inputs are larger or smaller the maximum value of the TX will change accordingly.

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