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Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1682. (Read 4670614 times)

legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1012
Still wild and free
Been mining Monero on monero.kippo.eu pool and it seems all of my withdrawals are lost because pool does not support "payment id" option. Are my coins lost? I can't contact anyone from that pool to give me the transaction IDs they possibly have. Here's what I received from Poloniex support where I deposit my mined coins:


Yep, I'm in same boat, .03 in total gone into the ether, which is alot for the small time miner. Mining this coin is most frustrating (aka 'it sucks')

Chill out. Main cause is not pool not having that option. It's you not wondering about that, not paying attention to warning on poloniex.
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
Been mining Monero on monero.kippo.eu pool and it seems all of my withdrawals are lost because pool does not support "payment id" option. Are my coins lost? I can't contact anyone from that pool to give me the transaction IDs they possibly have. Here's what I received from Poloniex support where I deposit my mined coins:


Yep, I'm in same boat, .03 in total gone into the ether, which is alot for the small time miner. Mining this coin is most frustrating (aka 'it sucks')

Peace
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1015
i jumped on the XMR party a few days ago.  looks like i didnt time it too well Sad  !!

me too

we should form a support group

You could call it the BBC.  Congratulations on your ground floor entry.  No one buys at the bottom.  Everyone has a drawdown at some point.  Yours will be much less than most.  Key is to keep averaging in.   Never sell until the next ATH+20%.  Then sell a smallish fraction to recover funds for the next dip, slowly.  

You probably know my opinion: whoever wins the monopoly leadership for dark liquidity worldwide will rival bitcoin in the long run. We may just be owners of a significant fraction of global liquidity ten years hence.  Only time and hard work can prove it.  Do your best to build this economy.  Winning will make it worth the effort.

I think people in this thread may be overcomplicating the issue a bit. The truth of the matter is that monero is sill just extraordinarily inflationary at this point.

But yes. Its clear that an anonymous crypto is going to be a big contender in the future and ive looked at the alternatives. None stack up. If ring signatures actually work that is. I'm willing to take the gamble.

im no economist but how do you cure inflation?

With time...

What are you really asking?
member
Activity: 109
Merit: 10
btcxyzzz
if you have entered the address of poloniex to mine
then it is your fault
because the pool can not send payments with payment id
as they do because if you do not provide the payment id?
you who must provide it to the pool not the other way
it is not possible to provide it with the current miner
it's your fault
you had to insert your address not to poloniex
and then transfer them from your address to poloniex address also using the id that tells you poloniex
however, it is useless to contact the owner of the pool
they have made the payment
and also with the transaction id "impossible for them to find it"
also because they are all micro-payments
so many transactions
it is not said
poloniex that is able to track your money
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Whimsical Pants
Monero will decrease emission and inflation with disappear.
newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 0
i jumped on the XMR party a few days ago.  looks like i didnt time it too well Sad  !!

me too

we should form a support group

You could call it the BBC.  Congratulations on your ground floor entry.  No one buys at the bottom.  Everyone has a drawdown at some point.  Yours will be much less than most.  Key is to keep averaging in.   Never sell until the next ATH+20%.  Then sell a smallish fraction to recover funds for the next dip, slowly.  

You probably know my opinion: whoever wins the monopoly leadership for dark liquidity worldwide will rival bitcoin in the long run. We may just be owners of a significant fraction of global liquidity ten years hence.  Only time and hard work can prove it.  Do your best to build this economy.  Winning will make it worth the effort.

I think people in this thread may be overcomplicating the issue a bit. The truth of the matter is that monero is sill just extraordinarily inflationary at this point.

But yes. Its clear that an anonymous crypto is going to be a big contender in the future and ive looked at the alternatives. None stack up. If ring signatures actually work that is. I'm willing to take the gamble.

im no economist but how do you cure inflation?
legendary
Activity: 888
Merit: 1000
Monero - secure, private and untraceable currency.
Been mining Monero on monero.kippo.eu pool and it seems all of my withdrawals are lost because pool does not support "payment id" option. Are my coins lost? I can't contact anyone from that pool to give me the transaction IDs they possibly have. Here's what I received from Poloniex support where I deposit my mined coins:

Code:
It is not recommended to use a 3rd party wallet for deposits or withdrawal.

XMR is a cryptonote coin, it requires a payment id to be sent to Poloniex and you pool probably doesn't have that functionality implemented.

Here is instruction on how to deposit and withdraw crypto-note coins.

You will need a "deposit address" and the "payment id"  to withdraw from exchange to exchange. That will be available on the balances page on poloniex.com or the balances page of the exchange you want to send to. 

You cannot send from an exchange to an exchange or pool to an exchange, unless they have the option to add the "payment id".  If they do not have "Payment Id" option, you must send it to your wallet first and then to the exchange from your wallet.

Withdrawing From Exchange to Wallet
Please go to your balance page and put your wallet address to withdraw crypto-note.

Depositing Crypto-note to exchange from wallet
To deposit Crypto-note to exchange from your wallet You will need to use the format below:
transfer 0 DepositAddress amountofcoin PaymentID

This must be exact.  It is a good idea to copy and paste this from a notepad. 


To retrieve the transaction id (TxID) for crypto-note coins, you can access it from the logfile in the wallet directory.  Please copy and paste the information for us. 

It will look like this, example:
Money successfully sent, transaction <08d27cd721732ee49eac8a63334c65384407aa8c43d9606b862fc754c5d4e51b>

Sending crypto-note coins the wrong way, is a very easy way to permanently lose your coin.  When coins are sent incorrectly, and require recovery, there is never a guarantee that your coins will be recovered.

If you can find out all the transaction id's for the missing transactions it is possible that we can recover the coins.
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Whimsical Pants
But the signs all point up from here.   And there's lots of them...

Do tell.

Seriously, do tell.

Current fundamental plusses:
Only coin offering true privacy with ring signatures.
One of very few coins to complement bitcoin rather than compete.
Impossible to examine block chain for tracking funds.
Serious candidate for crypto version of "Swiss account"
Serious contender for crypto with cash equivalence for privacy.
Smooth decreasing emission rate.
Active development.
Devs focusing on foundation not bling.
Major interest from BCT  "hero"  members and BTC whales.
POW  (proven value creation)
Active mining community.
Zero premine.
Zero ninja mine.
Cpu/gpu friendly.
Robust asic resistance.
Current state inflationary but coin holds value.
Smoothly rising difficulty.
Smoothly rising hash rate.
Relatively equitable distribution.
Low hype.
High signal to noise community here.
No evidence of any pump/dump.
Exchanges coming online.

Future fundamental plusses:
Gui imminent.
Database overhaul underway.
Website overhaul underway.
Possible mobile client.
Rpc wallet incoming.

Technical plusses: (weak area)
Consistent volume leader on exchanges.
Seems to be finding support at recent lows.

A real ta guy could fill that in.   Chart looks pretty shitty to me. But the fundamentals are damn strong with this coin.
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Who cares?
But the signs all point up from here.   And there's lots of them...

Do tell.

Seriously, do tell.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
But the signs all point up from here.   And there's lots of them...

Do tell.
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500

That's because Mumbles is doing what I call, "Fake-Friend-Trolling", where he trolls a coin and pretends to like it, while trolling it cleverly in an attempt to make it seem as thought there are no good features, only bad ones. He most likely represents a competitors of the coin he's trolling, hence his Newbies status, he's probably a sockpuppet account.

I'm a Alpha-Member Troll, Mumbles, I know all your tricks.

There's actually a Wikipedia section for this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)#Concern_troll  Cheesy

Anyway, poor Mumbles here doesn't understand the concept of a Github repo or he'd see that XMR has a ton going on in other branches.
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Whimsical Pants
i jumped on the XMR party a few days ago.  looks like i didnt time it too well Sad  !!

Meh.  I know the feeling,  but just remember hindsight doesn't help much until you zoom out enough for it to really matter.   And the data isn't there yet.   You didn't actually "jump the party" intending to leave after a couple free drinks right?  Let the sample size grow a little  bit and see how smart you actually were to get in anywhere close to the current price.

I can't tell the future.   No one can.   But the signs all point up from here.   And there's lots of them...

legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
i jumped on the XMR party a few days ago.  looks like i didnt time it too well Sad  !!

me too

we should form a support group

You could call it the BBC.  Congratulations on your ground floor entry.  No one buys at the bottom.  Everyone has a drawdown at some point.  Yours will be much less than most.  Key is to keep averaging in.   Never sell until the next ATH+20%.  Then sell a smallish fraction to recover funds for the next dip, slowly.  

You probably know my opinion: whoever wins the monopoly leadership for dark liquidity worldwide will rival bitcoin in the long run. We may just be owners of a significant fraction of global liquidity ten years hence.  Only time and hard work can prove it.  Do your best to build this economy.  Winning will make it worth the effort.

I think people in this thread may be overcomplicating the issue a bit. The truth of the matter is that monero is sill just extraordinarily inflationary at this point.

But yes. Its clear that an anonymous crypto is going to be a big contender in the future and ive looked at the alternatives. None stack up. If ring signatures actually work that is. I'm willing to take the gamble.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1030
Sine secretum non libertas
i jumped on the XMR party a few days ago.  looks like i didnt time it too well Sad  !!

me too

we should form a support group

You could call it the BBC.  Congratulations on your ground floor entry.  No one buys at the bottom.  Everyone has a drawdown at some point.  Yours will be much less than most.  Key is to keep averaging in.   Never sell until the next ATH+20%.  Then sell a smallish fraction to recover funds for the next dip, slowly. 

You probably know my opinion: whoever wins the monopoly leadership for dark liquidity worldwide will rival bitcoin in the long run. We may just be owners of a significant fraction of global liquidity ten years hence.  Only time and hard work can prove it.  Do your best to build this economy.  Winning will make it worth the effort.
kbm
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
Just say happy birthday to

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adi_Shamir , age 62,

the one of the creators of Ring signature concept, used in Monero to be totally anonymous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_signature

Smiley


I like that plug in the references at the bottom of the ring signature page: 3: Untraceable payments, Cryptonote.org  Smiley


edit: Neat article here

Correctly chosen adaptive transaction fees would be something pretty cool to add to the adaptive parameters of CN. Didn't we have those at one point but they were too low?
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
i jumped on the XMR party a few days ago.  looks like i didnt time it too well Sad  !!

me too

we should form a support group
member
Activity: 119
Merit: 10
i jumped on the XMR party a few days ago.  looks like i didnt time it too well Sad  !!

Just say happy birthday to

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adi_Shamir , age 62,

the one of the creators of Ring signature concept, used in Monero to be totally anonymous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_signature

Smiley
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
i jumped on the XMR party a few days ago.  looks like i didnt time it too well Sad  !!
member
Activity: 119
Merit: 10
Good news guys!

I've just verified that core team developers do respond at irc chat at freenode. I asked them questions I interested in, and they cleared much stuff you are being afraid at bitcointalk.


1. How to observe developer's activity - just follow

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/network

- this is the whole github Monero network graph, so you can start from it, discovering individual branches names, such as 'master', 'blockchain', 'rpcwallet', etc. Then you may explore commits inside individual branches. Take more help at github web-site itself. Just play with it!

Note, individual branches may merge into master time to time, new branches may arrive to the scene, so there is no constant branches list - always start look from bitmonero network graph I mentioned above!

2. Devs will remove 32-bit executabes from 1st sticky page of this thread soon, and place a short FAQ on some critical points.

3. New monero.cc site design is coming, possibly this week.


So do not press devs on they are too slow. For example, dev can make many changes on it's local comp, but he will not commit it to public github branch unless he is sure in all the changes. Nevertheless, there are quite a lot commits even in public github branches daily.


If you have any questions to devs, feel free post them here, I will select most interesting and ask devs directly at irc. Please do not bother them yourself unless you are completely sure your question is actual and correct. Some questions I can answer you, some questions I will select everyday to ask devs directly.


Thank you for comprehension!
sr. member
Activity: 275
Merit: 250
Hi,

I've been unable to sync bitmonerod on my 32 bit machines this past week, previously they were working fine.

Now their stuck on block 107407 I've tried restoring, deleting and re downloading the blockchain but they still
get stuck.

Any ideas?

Can I transfer my 32bit wallet files to a 64bit setup?

Thank you

Florida.Haunted posted working instructions a few pages back. I followed those instructions and all went well. Thanks man Smiley

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*WINDOWS USERS* (I think Linux users may do very very the same)

In case of any technical problem you have encountered with Monero:

0. Assume your 32-bit wallet file name is "wallet.bin" (adjust this instruction for other name accordingly)
1. Backup your wallet.bin.* files.
2. Delete ALL Monero files from your computer.
3. Download 64-bit Monero zip & blockchain.bin from 1st sticky page of this thread.
4. Unzip & place all the files downloaded above to the directory: "C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\bitmonero\".
5. From the backup made at step 1, place wallet.bin.* files !!! EXCEPT wallet.bin itself !!! into directory at step 4.
6. Start bitmonerod.exe and wait for it to sync with the net.
7. Start simplewallet by the commad prompt: "simplewallet --wallet-file wallet.bin" (!!! name of the file that must NOT exist in directory at step 4 !!!).
8. When you want to stop any monero executables - ALWAYS type "exit" & be patient.

simplewallet re-creates correct version of wallet.bin for you.

Since you migrate to 64-bit Monero by CORRECT WAY mentioned above - you will never have any problem except being patient due to Monero is currently somewhat slow.

Many Thanks
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