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hero member
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got my miners online..
how many coins/day can i expect at Hash Rate: 445.00 H/sec?

<+MoneroBot> With 445 H/s you should get 3.53 MRO per Day
wish i had o botnet..

That is actually kinda slow and can be acheived with about 1 server. The botnets are pulling 20Kh/s
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for 500 dollars what would smooth david or ezih buy  (other than investing, as investing is beyond most normal human beings, let alon investing in cryptocurrencies.)

At the $500 price point you are likely talking about one computer.

That being the case, I would buy a computer you could use for other things. Then you get the mining gear for free, and no one can compete with that.

If it were specifically for mining you want to maximize your mining power for the absolute minimum cost, which means you want a decent CPU but not a  high end extreme model. I would build my open rig (don't waste money on a case) get a very basic motherboard, ideally with integrated video (again don't waste money on a video card) and minimal RAM. Run linux on it.

Also, take a look at whether you can get more output with two $250 systems (lower end CPU) instead of one $500. I'm not sure. Once we have a good performance chart it will be easier to figure this out.

If you want to spend more and go bigger then, at some point, you need to deal with hosting issues and are better of with rack mounted servers, possibly blades. I think they have a bit of a price premium though. For a while stick with cheap open rigs.

VPS may make sense short term but if you are in this for the long term buying hardware (efficiently) is quite a bit cheaper than VPS, even if you end up having to rent space for your farm. This likely requires good skills in getting back value out of reselling used gear when you upgrade.

In summary mining is all about cost efficiency above all else. If you were around at all during the big GPU mining phase of bitcoin and altcoins then it is really the same principles, except with the GPU. You can look around at how people save money by not spending it on inessential components (cases, etc.), finding promotional deals, etc.




as always insightful.
thank you. this might help new comers as well. imagine, people buying 500 dollar computers to run their wallet and daemon. liek buying a phone. a necessity for modern money use.
a phone could carry the wallet info and can be used a card. you use the camera to capture the destination address, and an app captures money to be sent and your home computer handles the rest. I think i am just rambling. but I feel there is an idea there. i just know it.
legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
got my miners online..
how many coins/day can i expect at Hash Rate: 445.00 H/sec?

<+MoneroBot> With 445 H/s you should get 3.53 MRO per Day

wish i had o botnet..
sr. member
Activity: 560
Merit: 250
"Trading Platform of The Future!"
You are right haha, thanks!

For an i7-2600 on Linux 64bit, any special flags I should do?
For some reason, last version gave 24H per thread, now seems to be doing 19H.
Maybe it will improve after a bit? I don't think there are any special flags.. No reason stratum should slow your hashrate down.
legendary
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for 500 dollars what would smooth david or ezih buy  (other than investing, as investing is beyond most normal human beings, let alon investing in cryptocurrencies.)

At the $500 price point you are likely talking about one computer.

That being the case, I would buy a computer you could use for other things. Then you get the mining gear for free, and no one can compete with that.

If it were specifically for mining you want to maximize your mining power for the absolute minimum cost, which means you want a decent CPU but not a  high end extreme model. I would build my open rig (don't waste money on a case) get a very basic motherboard, ideally with integrated video (again don't waste money on a video card) and minimal RAM. Run linux on it.

Also, take a look at whether you can get more output with two $250 systems (lower end CPU) instead of one $500. I'm not sure. Once we have a good performance chart it will be easier to figure this out.

If you want to spend more and go bigger then, at some point, you need to deal with hosting issues and are better of with rack mounted servers, possibly blades. I think they have a bit of a price premium though. For a while stick with cheap open rigs.

VPS may make sense short term but if you are in this for the long term buying hardware (efficiently) is quite a bit cheaper than VPS, even if you end up having to rent space for your farm. This likely requires good skills in getting back value out of reselling used gear when you upgrade.

In summary mining is all about cost efficiency above all else. If you were around at all during the big GPU mining phase of bitcoin and altcoins then it is really the same principles, except with the GPU. You can look around at how people save money by not spending it on inessential components (cases, etc.), finding promotional deals, etc.


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Extremepool.org

Stratum now available and new miner released.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6807962
legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
got my miners online..
how many coins/day can i expect at Hash Rate: 445.00 H/sec?
hero member
Activity: 979
Merit: 510
MoneroPool.org now uses the stratum protocol on port 7777.  All ports except port 5555 will be switched to the stratum protocol in 24 hours.

To connect, use this
Code:
minerd -a cryptonight -o stratum+tcp://mine.moneropool.org:7777 -u address -p x

More instructions here

Simpleminer is not compatible with the stratum protocol, so please switch to cpuminer if you can.

10% mining bonus for the next 20 blocks!

Thanks, perhaps I need to compile a new cpu multi miner from somewhere else? Compiled it just yesterday.
HTTP request failed: Protocol stratum+tcp not supported or disabled in libcurl
You have to compile it again, yesterday is too old.  Smiley

You are right haha, thanks!

For an i7-2600 on Linux 64bit, any special flags I should do?
For some reason, last version gave 24H per thread, now seems to be doing 19H.
sr. member
Activity: 560
Merit: 250
"Trading Platform of The Future!"
MoneroPool.org now uses the stratum protocol on port 7777.  All ports except port 5555 will be switched to the stratum protocol in 24 hours.

To connect, use this
Code:
minerd -a cryptonight -o stratum+tcp://mine.moneropool.org:7777 -u address -p x

More instructions here

Simpleminer is not compatible with the stratum protocol, so please switch to cpuminer if you can.

10% mining bonus for the next 20 blocks!

Thanks, perhaps I need to compile a new cpu multi miner from somewhere else? Compiled it just yesterday.
HTTP request failed: Protocol stratum+tcp not supported or disabled in libcurl
You have to compile it again, yesterday is too old.  Smiley
hero member
Activity: 979
Merit: 510
MoneroPool.org now uses the stratum protocol on port 7777.  All ports except port 5555 will be switched to the stratum protocol in 24 hours.

To connect, use this
Code:
minerd -a cryptonight -o stratum+tcp://mine.moneropool.org:7777 -u address -p x

More instructions here

Simpleminer is not compatible with the stratum protocol, so please switch to cpuminer if you can.

10% mining bonus for the next 20 blocks!

Thanks, perhaps I need to compile a new cpu multi miner from somewhere else? Compiled it just yesterday.
HTTP request failed: Protocol stratum+tcp not supported or disabled in libcurl
hero member
Activity: 794
Merit: 1000
Monero (XMR) - secure, private, untraceable
I am using windows.

Windows 64-bit binaries (0.8.8.2, updated: May 21st)
Windows 64-bit blockchain (place in %AppData%/bitmonero, updated May 21)

There a rumours that a Linux VM is faster than Windows native, but I did not check.
This is not the case any more with the May 21st update. I used to mine with VirtualBox with linux, but now the windows native binary is much faster on my core i7. Note that after the May 21st update on my core i7 3rd gen (laptop) and on a friend of mine core i7 4th gen (desktop) I'm now mining with 4 instead of 8 cores, because there is no gain mining with 8. It seems those processors have just 4 AES optimized cores and running 8 threads instead of 4 gives you just 5% speed boost (on my machine) and on my friend's machine it have 10% lower hash rate with 8 cores and is actually faster with 4. If the developers could add an option to select to mine with N AES optimized threads and M not optimized threads this should give additional 36% boost in speed on my machine.
legendary
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No I did not. I am having a look now. Although i did like the idea of using the CryptoNote-Easy-Miner

https://github.com/zone117x/cryptonote-easy-miner

As it seemed to do everything for you.

Right, I am preparing an update for my tutorial for cryptonote-easy-miner.

In the meantime you can try with simpleminer to see if you have any connection issue.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
Extreme Pool Critical Update
Everyone that is mining at http://mro.extremepool.org please download the latest miner and connect using stratum to the stratum ports.

This latest pool update will be much more stable and fixes the constant reject issue everyone was seeing with the old software/miner and http ports.

My goal today, now that this update is complete, will be to get many miners and get the pool hash rate up.

Enjoy!!
sr. member
Activity: 560
Merit: 250
"Trading Platform of The Future!"
MoneroPool.org now uses the stratum protocol on port 7777.  All ports except port 5555 will be switched to the stratum protocol in 24 hours.

To connect, use this
Code:
minerd -a cryptonight -o stratum+tcp://mine.moneropool.org:7777 -u address -p x

More instructions here

Simpleminer is not compatible with the stratum protocol, so please switch to cpuminer if you can.

10% mining bonus for the next 20 blocks!
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1015

No I did not. I am having a look now. Although i did like the idea of using the CryptoNote-Easy-Miner

https://github.com/zone117x/cryptonote-easy-miner

As it seemed to do everything for you.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 503
Monero Core Team
I am using windows.

Windows 64-bit binaries (0.8.8.2, updated: May 21st)
Windows 64-bit blockchain (place in %AppData%/bitmonero, updated May 21)

There a rumours that a Linux VM is faster than Windows native, but I did not check.
legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
my setup on 14.04:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install git make automake screen libcurl4-openssl-dev
git clone https://github.com/LucasJones/cpuminer-multi
cd cpuminer-multi
./autogen.sh
./configure CFLAGS="-O3"
make
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 503
Monero Core Team
I am going to give some mining a go, I doubt it will be worth my efforts (my lone cpu isn't very good)

I am using the simple miner and connecting to a pool.

This is my error:

Quote
Stratum connection failed: Could not resolve host: http

Anyone know a way around it?
No stratum yet
http://monero.cc/getting-started

Install on Ubuntu:
Code:
sudo apt-get install -y build-essential automake libcurl4-openssl-dev pkg-config && cd ~/monero && rm -rf cpuminer && mkdir cpuminer && cd cpuminer && git clone http://github.com/Lucasjones/cpuminer-multi.git && pushd cpuminer-multi && ./autogen.sh && export CFLAGS="-O3 -march=native" && ./configure && make && unset CFLAGS && popd
Mine
Code:
cd ~/monero/cpuminer/cpuminer-multi && ./minerd -a cryptonight -o extremepool.org:3333 -u 46ctfLBhgyzJm61oTtDfu9GbVhG7ito4fNiQjdZcB5bL3mz5ejQrPD29uEkDHFzCVTHGFqAdG456w6ivYp7K23SiGREUiQe -p xxxx -t 8
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