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Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1940. (Read 4671660 times)

legendary
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I am going to give some mining a go, I doubt it will be worth my efforts (my lone cpu isn't very good)

I am using the simple miner and connecting to a pool.

EDIT: update.

This is my error:

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stratum_recv_line failed

Anyone know a way around it?
member
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<3 big picture
Anyone using moneropool.org to mine?

I noticed moneropool.com say they can't accept more miners as they're at capacity (and more than 25% of network hash!), and have moneropool.org at the top of their list of alternatives.

moneropool.org look to be offering a 10% payout bonus?

edit: there's also a new version of cpuminer-multi which doesn't bug out and give all-boooos..  find it here: https://github.com/LucasJones/cpuminer-multi/releases
hero member
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Monero Core Team
rpietila is a major actor in bitcoin. He is very widely followed. He never bought altcoin before. But he decided to buy Monero. Enjoy the reading.


My take on altcoins

[...]

MRO (Monero)
Okay, there was a reason why I wrote on alts. Cause I have just made my first altcoin investment ever! Monero has a trait which pretty much all other alts lack: slow and geometrically decreasing issuance. At present, only 5% of MRO is mined, and even after 4 years there will still be 20% left to be mined. There is no premine, and the community consists of several people Smiley Furthermore, it is currently a CPU coin, since the 11 hashing algorithms make it difficult to implement for GPU let alone ASIC. These things make it "fair" so that there is no way to amass large stashes except by working for them in the competitive mining or buying in the open market.

The market for the coin is very active and extremely liquid. There was an OTC market in the beginning. MRO was listed in Poloniex 5 days ago and the reception has been good. It has been the most traded coin ever since despite having a market cap of only 1-3 M$! Up to 10% of the outstanding MRO changes hands daily in Poloniex, mitigating the extreme volatility that is plaguing many alts with concentrated ownership.

And now comes the main point: The coin has a feature, which is not implementable in Bitcoin - privacy! It is called CryptoNote, and means that all transactions are mixed in a protocol level. This is imo the most advanced privacy that is currently found in crypto universe, although I am sure that some disagree and let them teach me how I am wrong Wink

The coin is probably circulating quite widely already. New mining is about 30kMRO per day (BTC180), which is about $100k (!) and the price is rising (despite that). This is not a pump and dump coin, because the inflation takes care that new coins are constantly coming to the market. A word of warning though - the market cap may seem lucratively small, but the total issuance of MRO is 20 times the current, which is a little less than that of BTC. Therefore it is easy to compare the relative valuations by just comparing the prices. At 0.006 BTC currently, MRO is not the cheapest coin around (1:166 of BTC). I would advice to not buy hastily, and not participate in bubbles (if any). Mining is also an option.

This is the first altcoin I bought, and I did it during the time when it had been listed in the exchange. My relative position is less than in BTC though, so if only one remains, I would still do better if it is BTC Smiley
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ha...
you have quickly identified my ignorance. i thought hero member was someone that was trusted by the community and gave of themselves not because of compensation. i did not know that it was a bought account.
my apologies.

i am asking from the perspective of a computer buyer. alas, this is likely impossible to do. thank you again.

No worries if you have any direct questions there are plenty of people here who will answer you.

Just to say so nobody misunderstands, I wasn't saying all hero accounts were bought just that some are bought and sold is all.
legendary
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you have quickly identified my ignorance. i thought hero member was someone that was trusted by the community and gave of themselves not because of compensation. i did not know that it was a bought account.
my apologies.

Most hero accounts are not "bought" but some are.

My account has not been purchased, I've had it since post 1!

Anyway, the "titles" on the accounts mean nothing really, I'm not exactly the type of person you'd want advice from. I'm just someone that posts here a lot, that is all.

member
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thank you for his.
my idea, there is core development of the software for which we have many hero members.
1. monero development i.e new aspect implementation
2. interface development. miners and wallets
3. marketing
 
There is the hardware aspect as well. hero members input on what they would chose if they had such and such money to spend.
for example, i do not know what aws/azure are or is. this is beyond my scope. and as i read some of the posts it reminds me of my insecurities regarding the tech. barriers for entry for non crypto currencies aficionados. There is obvious curiosity.

for 500 dollars what would smooth david or ezih buy  (other than investing, as investing is beyond most normal human beings, let alon investing in cryptocurrencies.)

for 1000 dollars what would they buy. things like this. trust is hard to come buy especially when we use handles. but trust can be percieved through conversation, and the above mentioned and others have earned it from me.

thanks.

Just a couple of points, just because somebody is a hero member here all it means is they have been registered on the forum for a while it doesn't automatically make them know more, hero accounts are also sold on the forum as well so a 13 y/o newbie could be behind a hero account but anyway thats not got much to do with MRO.

AWS and Azure are both cloud computing power operators where you can pay for a machine that you can access from your own PC but the hardware is at Amazon or Microsoft. Read - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Azure

You would have to ask them yourself but Im sure they would give different answers. My personal answer would be not to spend $500 on a machine and hope to ROI you would much likely be better buying MRO as by the time you make $500 or $1000 worth just to pay back your equipment the price could be anywhere.

ha...
you have quickly identified my ignorance. i thought hero member was someone that was trusted by the community and gave of themselves not because of compensation. i did not know that it was a bought account.
my apologies.

i am asking from the perspective of a computer buyer. alas, this is likely impossible to do. thank you again.
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
thank you for his.
my idea, there is core development of the software for which we have many hero members.
1. monero development i.e new aspect implementation
2. interface development. miners and wallets
3. marketing
 
There is the hardware aspect as well. hero members input on what they would chose if they had such and such money to spend.
for example, i do not know what aws/azure are or is. this is beyond my scope. and as i read some of the posts it reminds me of my insecurities regarding the tech. barriers for entry for non crypto currencies aficionados. There is obvious curiosity.

for 500 dollars what would smooth david or ezih buy  (other than investing, as investing is beyond most normal human beings, let alon investing in cryptocurrencies.)

for 1000 dollars what would they buy. things like this. trust is hard to come buy especially when we use handles. but trust can be percieved through conversation, and the above mentioned and others have earned it from me.

thanks.

Just a couple of points, just because somebody is a hero member here all it means is they have been registered on the forum for a while it doesn't automatically make them know more, hero accounts are also sold on the forum as well so a 13 y/o newbie could be behind a hero account but anyway thats not got much to do with MRO.

AWS and Azure are both cloud computing power operators where you can pay for a machine that you can access from your own PC but the hardware is at Amazon or Microsoft. Read - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Azure

You would have to ask them yourself but Im sure they would give different answers. My personal answer would be not to spend $500 on a machine and hope to ROI you would much likely be better buying MRO as by the time you make $500 or $1000 worth just to pay back your equipment the price could be anywhere.
member
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in spirit of cooperation;

I see many posts: how many coins with such and such hashing power. How much hashing am i expected to get with such and such cpu.

Could we see a post. monero hashing build. most hasing for under under 500 dollars, 1000 dollars, and 2 thousand dollars.
seems some people may convert some of their earning into machins and improve their hashing performance.
i see this as a good thing as it secures the network. pulls hashing away from those already domminant in the field.

can we do this in a windows and ubuntu estimations. as such this will allow new investors to start mining. the reason I say this i have some friends that are in the market for upgrading computers and I was asked this question and I can not answer it.

thank you for those that will take this post seriously.

Its a cpu only coin, there's not really $1000 or $2000 spec machines, its simply how many cpu's you can get your hands on.

Granted it would possibly be useful to produce a list of CPU's and their expected hashing power on either OS so that you could choose which CPU's to buy to mine this coin but at this stage I would be very surprised to see people building $2000 set ups to mine MRO, you may as well use AWS/Azure and the like.

The other issue is that the miners are being constantly updated and there is also more than one miner so you can see how this starts to become a lot of work to put together. Thats also besides the fact that you can't trust just one person saying they are getting x speed without some proof so again it becomes a huge task.

Hope this helps.

thank you for his.
my idea, there is core development of the software for which we have many hero members.
1. monero development i.e new aspect implementation
2. interface development. miners and wallets
3. marketing
 
There is the hardware aspect as well. hero members input on what they would chose if they had such and such money to spend.
for example, i do not know what aws/azure are or is. this is beyond my scope. and as i read some of the posts it reminds me of my insecurities regarding the tech. barriers for entry for non crypto currencies aficionados. There is obvious curiosity.

for 500 dollars what would smooth david or ezih buy  (other than investing, as investing is beyond most normal human beings, let alon investing in cryptocurrencies.)

for 1000 dollars what would they buy. things like this. trust is hard to come buy especially when we use handles. but trust can be percieved through conversation, and the above mentioned and others have earned it from me.

thanks.
sr. member
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Who cares?

My suggestion is a reduction in the number of coins or altering of the reward curve.

Have to disagree.  The goal shouldn't be to have an "investment", its a currency for use as a tool.

I'd rather see trade-facilitation stuff built in, and a greater circulation - the value inherent in the coin will be driven by market uptake.  The reason BTC was successful initially is it was used for a large range of commercial transactions.. being able to spend it on goods/services created the demand and built the price.

Oh please...
MRO will be another low velocity, commodity crypto like all the others...
You wanna buy pizza with MRO?

I sell 1 pizza = 10K MRO
deal ?


seems legit
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
in spirit of cooperation;

I see many posts: how many coins with such and such hashing power. How much hashing am i expected to get with such and such cpu.

Could we see a post. monero hashing build. most hasing for under under 500 dollars, 1000 dollars, and 2 thousand dollars.
seems some people may convert some of their earning into machins and improve their hashing performance.
i see this as a good thing as it secures the network. pulls hashing away from those already domminant in the field.

can we do this in a windows and ubuntu estimations. as such this will allow new investors to start mining. the reason I say this i have some friends that are in the market for upgrading computers and I was asked this question and I can not answer it.

thank you for those that will take this post seriously.

Its a cpu only coin, there's not really $1000 or $2000 spec machines, its simply how many cpu's you can get your hands on.

Granted it would possibly be useful to produce a list of CPU's and their expected hashing power on either OS so that you could choose which CPU's to buy to mine this coin but at this stage I would be very surprised to see people building $2000 set ups to mine MRO, you may as well use AWS/Azure and the like.

The other issue is that the miners are being constantly updated and there is also more than one miner so you can see how this starts to become a lot of work to put together. Thats also besides the fact that you can't trust just one person saying they are getting x speed without some proof so again it becomes a huge task.

Hope this helps.
member
Activity: 196
Merit: 10
in spirit of cooperation;

I see many posts: how many coins with such and such hashing power. How much hashing am i expected to get with such and such cpu.

Could we see a post. monero hashing build. most hasing for under under 500 dollars, 1000 dollars, and 2 thousand dollars.
seems some people may convert some of their earning into machins and improve their hashing performance.
i see this as a good thing as it secures the network. pulls hashing away from those already domminant in the field.

can we do this in a windows and ubuntu estimations. as such this will allow new investors to start mining. the reason I say this i have some friends that are in the market for upgrading computers and I was asked this question and I can not answer it.

thank you for those that will take this post seriously.
legendary
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My suggestion is a reduction in the number of coins or altering of the reward curve.

Have to disagree.  The goal shouldn't be to have an "investment", its a currency for use as a tool.

I'd rather see trade-facilitation stuff built in, and a greater circulation - the value inherent in the coin will be driven by market uptake.  The reason BTC was successful initially is it was used for a large range of commercial transactions.. being able to spend it on goods/services created the demand and built the price.

Oh please...
MRO will be another low velocity, commodity crypto like all the others...
You wanna buy pizza with MRO?

I sell 1 pizza = 10K MRO
deal ?
copper member
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Merit: 500
Blockchain Just Entered The Real World
hero member
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I have started mining few hours ago, when can i expect first payment?

If you are solo mining it is completely down to your hashing power when you can expect on average to be paid. If your mining in a pool however obviously that pool needs to find a block and then it needs to mature for I think 60 confirms.
legendary
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Still wild and free
Anyone succeeded to compile on Linux 32 bits? I get:

Code:
error: ‘uint128_t’ was not declared in this scope

Seems the sources are strongly 64 bits specific.
But I see there is a 32 bits windows executable, so there must be a way?
copper member
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Blockchain Just Entered The Real World
I have started mining few hours ago, when can i expect first payment?
Payments go out after each block has matured in a pool. Haven't solo mined so can't comment on that.

Im Mining here http://188.226.230.5/  

Please check my stats: 46LFDhuBQM38ZLShfVSjegFLR3R5ru8DSCK1CfkExRAnjjqi9NXdXB7Rm8EBpQwoQs1pBBZ9ETB1pFG XWELDkEiwR7mhXsk




What H/s can i expect with one Sandy-Bridge i7 2600K@4800Mhz?
newbie
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I have started mining few hours ago, when can i expect first payment?
Payments go out after each block has matured in a pool. Haven't solo mined so can't comment on that.
copper member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
Blockchain Just Entered The Real World
I have started mining few hours ago, when can i expect first payment?
newbie
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Merit: 0
asddd 250-270 on fx-8320
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i make only 75-80 on my
i5-4570
i am using cpumultiminer of lucasjones
you?
8 threads, 30H/s or so a thread on cpumultiminer and simpleminer. Just make sure you're running the threads you can or all the instances of simpleminer for each thread.
member
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(reply).
I am not a dev, I know how to write semantically significant HTML, this is all. I am a team member, different. What I cannot bring with code, I bring it with communication, suggestion, writing, webhosting... Like Ludom does for NXT, by the way.
For the technical specifications, read the cryptonote whitepaper, our OP. There are post where we sum up our additions to the orignal Bytecoin code and so far, I believe fluffypony's Tenebrix/blockchain post is the best summary at hand (the post you are linking is a great one, we agree on that)
For the Panama part, I had several email exchanges with the said "joke" even on Sunday morning, when a DDoS happened and he was with his family. Of course, you don' have to believe me.
(your English is good, really, stop underestimating yourself, most French do underestimate their level in English)

Let's stop this useless confrontation. I'm currently owning a substantial part of my little investment in MRO and I believe this is the coin of the moment. My financial interest is to see monero going "to the moon". In my opinion, it is better than Darkcoin, not only because I left Darkcoin, but also from a programmer point of view. But to be honest, I can't see why this coin would survive more than others after pump-dump period. Anyway my opinion won't influence MRO price, big whale traders don't care what we are saying here.

Currently, I think the anomaly is Darkcoin, not Monero (fairer and technically better).

I hope crypto-currencies succeed, monero or another coin is of little relevance. Sorry for the annoyance.
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