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Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 770. (Read 4671575 times)

sr. member
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Its not impossible, Monero is way ahead of Bitcoin in terms of e-cash properties, all Bitcoin has is what Bitcoin has, it just takes lots of money to surpass Bitcoin, there is no magic needed, just an enormous amount of cold hard cash. I believe this coin has the properties that will attract this kind of money in the future. No serious altcoin dared to try before, Litecoin capped itself as a Silver to Bitcoin's gold, most others tried to be something Bitcoin isn't. Monero is Bitcoin better and it won't cap itself, as much as some are hoping and trying to just shove it in a sidechain. I'm not really deluding myself, this is how I see the situation it may or not happen, it may or may not be Monero but one worthy 'altcoin' will surpass Bitcoin sooner or later, its a matter of time.
hero member
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It would take a security exploit that renders Bitcoin useless to allow any altcoin to catch up to it.
 
 
I disagree.  Bitcoin has a lot of fundamental problems and it's silly to artificially limit speculation by bitcoin price, especially as this endeavor moves forward.  If bitcoin stagnates at $250 forever because the network technology stagnates it's silly to say that no "altcoin" can ever eclipse a 3 billion dollar marketcap. 
 
I believe it will be difficult to catch up to bitcoin, but certainly not impossible, especially if it falls apart socially and development wise.  The implications might be hard to fathom, but so was a billion-dollar marketcap for bitcoin in the first place.  I currently see a future of two major blockchains with Bitcoin forming the public one and Monero the private one - and I think the private blockchain will actually carry more value inside of it because the value of global private money is greater than global public money.
hero member
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Assuming that the Shadowcash developers aren't already anonymously contributing to Monero code, would there be any support for a bounty to possibly lure some of them in to our side?  
  
I think others have confirmed that though they may be misguided about their POS/POW launch, they seem to be legitimate people who aren't outright trying to scam anyone.  Would their talents have any use, and if so, are we prepared to compensate them at all for the enormous financial hit they might take by abandoning their baby?  
  
The more legitimate talent we can bring into the Monero-sphere the better of the project (and the world) will be.  It's going to take a *lot* of momentum and force to catch up to bitcoin and we could use all the help we can get.  

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12570030



It would take a security exploit that renders Bitcoin useless to allow any altcoin to catch up to it.

Can't speak for any of the Shadow devs though. Would be interesting to see this anonymous mega coin dev team, but I'd like to think that the shadow devs enjoy the community they've created.
hero member
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Assuming that the Shadowcash developers aren't already anonymously contributing to Monero code, would there be any support for a bounty to possibly lure some of them in to our side?  
  
I think others have confirmed that though they may be misguided about their POS/POW launch, they seem to be legitimate people who aren't outright trying to scam anyone.  Would their talents have any use, and if so, are we prepared to compensate them at all for the enormous financial hit they might take by abandoning their baby?  
  
The more legitimate talent we can bring into the Monero-sphere the better of the project (and the world) will be.  It's going to take a *lot* of momentum and force to catch up to bitcoin and we could use all the help we can get.  

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12570030

legendary
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Hey all, CES 2016 in Las Vegas is having a Digital Money Forum.

http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/10/20/huge-ces-2016-to-host-the-digital-money-forum/

If I can qualify for a media badge I'll be there regardless, but I'm wondering if we should try to have an even greater presence there?  I can discuss Monero on the floor with some people there (and don't worry, suit only - no Halloween costumes Wink but they say if you want to speak formally to contact them.  I'm willing to do it, but my technical understanding of Monero is still being polished. I know that fluffyponyza gave a great presentation at least once at a bitcoin conference and wonder if it would also be appropriate here.



I say you should do it! Personally, I couldn't think of a better person to represent Monero... I would just try to get a very good understanding of what you're trying to talk about and accomplish by going there.  If it's just getting people aware of a new digital cash for the ages, with a twist of entertainment, I think you got it in the bag.
hero member
Activity: 770
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Hey all, CES 2016 in Las Vegas is having a Digital Money Forum.

http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/10/20/huge-ces-2016-to-host-the-digital-money-forum/

If I can qualify for a media badge I'll be there regardless, but I'm wondering if we should try to have an even greater presence there?  I can discuss Monero on the floor with some people there (and don't worry, suit only - no Halloween costumes Wink but they say if you want to speak formally to contact them.  I'm willing to do it, but my technical understanding of Monero is still being polished. I know that fluffyponyza gave a great presentation at least once at a bitcoin conference and wonder if it would also be appropriate here.

sr. member
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hello world
btw i have been thinking about a small good2go node too, what do you guys think about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c2CxuFzKtI

would fit me better compared to a raspberry i think.

both the XU4 and the C1+ seem cool.

or maybe better a Banana pi, since it has a sata II port directly on the board?
sr. member
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hello world
there is some limit on the size, but funny it still fits with mixing 200. dont know how big the limit is.

unfortunately, the small accident that happend to me did also wipe out my testnet coins and there was no backup for them, i had around 150k Cry
but there was a testnet faucet once, dont know if it still exists.

or you just let it run with one thread for some time and you will have enough too.

was there any load test for any cryptonode coin? should we do one?  Grin
it must no be on testnet, because maybe we should roll back after we are done.

i always wanted to do this Smiley

it always looks like BCN could be attackable like this? so many coins still fee is 0.01 Huh

there is something like a transaction backlog in monero too, how big can it be? how can i see its size?
legendary
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The 1 TB version i built comes to ~$300 with a 750 ti, so you could get 250 h/s. And these are all retail component costs. Perhaps someday I'd be able to get scale prices somehow. Proper cooling has proven to be a pain - its difficult to find high quality small form factor fans - fans that could last 5 years of constant runtime. And then the question of how loud the fans can be.

No fan lasts that long.

5 years? Sure they do. I have a server from 2009 that's been running essentially 100% of the time (still running now) with no fan failures. I have desktops from 2003 that have been running more or less all the time (not 100%, but almost certainly >80%) with fans that appear to still be working well enough. One of them did recently die on me.
legendary
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Still wild and free
If there are many transactions, it is difficult to trace after 3 minxin.

The number of transactions happening on the network has nothing to do with that.
sr. member
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Holy shit, 200 mixin?  Isn't it pretty unfeasible to ever trace a transaction even after just 3 mixin?  
  
200 is like breaking matter down to quarks and reassembling it.  Grin

If there are many transactions, it is difficult to trace after 3 minxin.
hero member
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Holy shit, 200 mixin?  Isn't it pretty unfeasible to ever trace a transaction even after just 3 mixin?  
  
200 is like breaking matter down to quarks and reassembling it.  Grin
legendary
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Lets make it rain when 0.9 comes!

https://forum.getmonero.org/6/ideas/2407/make-it-rain-on-the-devs-when-0-9-is-released

( also gives everyone a reason to buy some more cheap coinzzz )
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
This portion of the transaction was ~53KB

Looks to me like ~27K characters, in hexa, that's ~13.5KB



my mistake. I was taking the size of the entire output of print_tx .
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1012
Still wild and free
This portion of the transaction was ~53KB

Looks to me like ~27K characters, in hexa, that's ~13.5KB

legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1491
LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
Sorry if this is a huge post of info below. I just thought to share with others what a 10 XMR + 200 Mixin transaction looks like in json format.

This is just 1 of 5 total transactions it took to successfully send 10 XMR with 200 mixin on testnet. It broke it up into 5 separate transactions and committed them individually with its own transaction hash.

This portion of the transaction was ~53KB


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legendary
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I added to /etc/environment the line: LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" and restarted the system.

Now "cd bitmonero/build/release/bin/ && ./bitmonerod" the pan shows a lots more ;-)

Could you give me the exact content of LC_ALL and LANG on your system, before this change ? This could help in fixing the problem in the first place.

Thanks
legendary
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Still wild and free
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Yeah I got Spanish speaking people PMing me on IRC but it has often nothing to do with XMR, they just want to be friend...
No idea how they ended up here and why they want to be friend.

You're cute!
They probably just want to scam you... Cheesy
legendary
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Quite funny, i noticed that i am a Senior Member by now and secondly i just found out that i am the only full node in my country  Shocked Grin
Both findings make me kind of proud yeeeaaahhhhh  Grin Cheesy Wink
reminded by that graph that there's no presence in south america.
Well that's kind of sad if you take in consideration the naming of MONERO. Maybe we should host a VPS there....
There is a node in Brazil now. I'm surprised there's not at least a few between Mexico and South America. It seems like the most frequent visitors to #monero-pools on IRC are spanish speaking people looking for help. Maybe they all just mine straight to exchange though...or they're all actually the same person...or something.

Yeah I got Spanish speaking people PMing me on IRC but it has often nothing to do with XMR, they just want to be friend...
No idea how they ended up here and why they want to be friend.
legendary
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The key could be in comparing the yearly 24/7 electricity costs of a regular PC (or VPS subscription) VS purchase + running costs of a boxed node.

The electricity costs on these low end nodes can be extremely low, especially without mining (with mining, the mining revenue, even if small, should offset some of the cost). For example, a Raspberry Pi 2 runs a Monero node reasonably well and uses about 2 watts. So something like 3 USD per year. The more powerful nodes use more power but even at 30 USD per year that's still reasonably favorable compared to a VPS or a regular PC.


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