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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 1217. (Read 3314325 times)

legendary
Activity: 1092
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August 14, 2016, 10:39:57 PM
MRW Monero price actually starts going up these days. 
 


I don't know but I just have this feeling that there is a shoe that hasn't dropped.


Regardless of any viewpoints on DASH, historically just about every major XMR rally is preceded by a DASH rally, usually by a few weeks. This is my observation, perhaps its merely coincidence but you decide. I'll be interested to see what happens this time.



Dash valuation is getting absurd.  Short soon, in time to load up XMR?  FOMO!

New whale I guess? Who's taking bets on when the dump hits?


Might be also due to good PR XMR is getting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1q3rYJHqDE
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1030
Sine secretum non libertas
August 14, 2016, 08:01:08 PM
Higher highs and higher lows since the end of May.  Btcusd should continue down for 4 to 8 weeks, so I expect XMR safe haven trade to continue that long.  I am short btcusd myself, since Saturday.
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1141
August 14, 2016, 07:12:38 PM
SIGAINT launches Tor Monero node as "[its] operators firmly believe that Monero is the next logical step in Darknet commerce"

http://monero7tukbkxn57.onion/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4xqrzd/sigaint_launches_tor_monero_node_as_its_operators/
legendary
Activity: 2016
Merit: 1259
August 14, 2016, 05:35:05 PM
Ba-BAM!  up we go!
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
August 14, 2016, 05:28:10 PM
MRW Monero price actually starts going up these days. 
 


I don't know but I just have this feeling that there is a shoe that hasn't dropped.


Regardless of any viewpoints on DASH, historically just about every major XMR rally is preceded by a DASH rally, usually by a few weeks. This is my observation, perhaps its merely coincidence but you decide. I'll be interested to see what happens this time.



Dash valuation is getting absurd.  Short soon, in time to load up XMR?  FOMO!

New whale I guess? Who's taking bets on when the dump hits?
legendary
Activity: 2016
Merit: 1259
August 14, 2016, 04:19:10 PM
Regardless of any viewpoints on DASH, historically just about every major XMR rally is preceded by a DASH rally, usually by a few weeks. This is my observation, perhaps its merely coincidence but you decide. I'll be interested to see what happens this time.



Dash valuation is getting absurd.  Short soon, in time to load up XMR?  FOMO!
sr. member
Activity: 289
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bagholder since 2013
August 14, 2016, 04:15:13 PM
The XMR market in the process of pricing in:
1) RingCT PR
2) Upcoming GUI
3) Dashhole rally
4) All of the above  Grin
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 504
August 14, 2016, 04:00:19 PM
MRW Monero price actually starts going up these days. 
 
hero member
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Keep what's important, and know who's your friend
August 14, 2016, 03:10:50 PM

Wouldn't HF5 be on Setpember 2017? ... I just thought it was going to be a bi-annual type of thing?
full member
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legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1141
August 14, 2016, 09:46:34 AM
I wanted to make a paper wallet like the one bitcoin has with bitaddress.

https://www.bitaddress.org/bitaddress.org-v3.2.0-SHA256-ad4fd171c647772aa76d0ce828731b01ca586596275d43a94008766b758e8736.html


Is there anything safe and easy to use like the above one but for monero?

Is moneroaddress.org safe, reliable and easy to use like bitaddress?

https moneroaddress.org/

Moneroaddress.org is simply a port of this Github repository. You can simply download the ZIP file from there, extract it, and use it on your own computer. It was made by MoneroMooo, who is currently the most active code contributor to Monero. If you want to verify the download (or use it offline), you can follow the steps in this guide. Note that this guide was made for securely generating an offline cold paper wallet, but is basically for the extremely paranoid. Alternatively, there is this tool to generate a paper wallet. This tool was made by core-team member luigi1111. If you have two machines that aren't both compromised by the same entity, you could use the "Ice Cold" method of his tool.
sr. member
Activity: 337
Merit: 250
August 14, 2016, 09:24:03 AM
I wanted to make a paper wallet like the one bitcoin has with bitaddress.

https://www.bitaddress.org/bitaddress.org-v3.2.0-SHA256-ad4fd171c647772aa76d0ce828731b01ca586596275d43a94008766b758e8736.html


Is there anything safe and easy to use like the above one but for monero?

Is moneroaddress.org safe, reliable and easy to use like bitaddress?

https moneroaddress.org/

Works fine, follow the instructions.
legendary
Activity: 2604
Merit: 1748
August 14, 2016, 07:45:10 AM

Interesting.  Side chain option, or a good idea for a new generation coin recipe...?  Seems it won't work in existing blockchain protocol. We can't undo the holy blockchain.

Miblewimble Coin soon™
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1141
August 14, 2016, 07:12:11 AM
Dev meeting in approximately 4 hours (16:00 UTC). Dev meeting will be held at #monero-dev on freenode.

https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?iso=20160814T16&p1=0&p2=56&p3=37&p4=102&p5=240&p6=136&p7=179&p8=137&p9=70&p10=28



Kovri (I2P) dev meeting in approximately 5 hours (17:00 UTC). Dev meeting can be followed at #monero-dev on freenode.

https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?iso=20160814T17&p1=0&p2=56&p3=37&p4=102&p5=240&p6=136&p7=179&p8=137&p9=70&p10=28

legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1141
August 14, 2016, 06:17:27 AM
Ring CT just got PRed to master!

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/pull/961

Bear in mind that, even though the code is finished, it will need thorough review and testing before it will get merged into master.

Great work by MoneroMooo, Shen Noether and everyone else involved!
legendary
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hero member
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August 14, 2016, 03:46:35 AM
I have actually considered Bitcoin a much higher long term risk than Monero for over two years

From my perspective the main thing is the high price. You can't just look at this as coin-vs-coin, but you have to ask if a Bitcoin is really worth 300 times as much as Monero. Clearly Bitcoin is more established, more widely used, more widely held, etc. But 300 is a high ratio, and there is perhaps room for it to fall a lot and all the things I said in the previous sentence would still be true. Price matters.


   
  
And with that, the great Speculative attack on Bitcoin began.  Grin 
 
But seriously, it is accepted that Bitcoin is worth 10 billion (with a 'b').  That's because Bitcoin was the first, and has had years to establish a network effect. 
 
But Monero isn't just slightly better technology.  It's the original vision of Bitcoin - it is a tech an order of magnitude beyond Bitcoin, which fulfills something the original cannot - true privacy from the first block to the current one.
legendary
Activity: 2968
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August 14, 2016, 12:43:00 AM
I have actually considered Bitcoin a much higher long term risk than Monero for over two years

From my perspective the main thing is the high price. You can't just look at this as coin-vs-coin, but you have to ask if a Bitcoin is really worth 300 times as much as Monero. Clearly Bitcoin is more established, more widely used, more widely held, etc. But 300 is a high ratio, and there is perhaps room for it to fall a lot and all the things I said in the previous sentence would still be true. Price matters.

legendary
Activity: 2282
Merit: 1050
Monero Core Team
August 13, 2016, 05:41:37 PM
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I used to think monero had more long-term risk than bitcoin, network-wise as profit-wise I'm always "ready" to lose everything, cry and move on but so far I think both have the same risks yeah the bitcoin network is more secure but extremely centralized in a couple of pools located in a far-east dictatorship, there is also the problem with the bitcoin eliptic curve that is not used anywhere, so I conclude if I want to hedge my monero other than with bitcoin it would be something like litecoin or moneroclassic aka AEON and other cryptonotes.

I have actually considered Bitcoin a much higher long term risk than Monero for over two years, largely because of the blocksize issue. The 1 MB blocksize in Bitcoin effectively prevents any growth in Bitcoin. When one considers that much of the valuation in Bitcoin is driven by market perception of future value, in the form of venture capitalists for Bitcoin businesses, and investors and speculators in Bitcoin itself, the downside risk in Bitcoin becomes apparent.

As for hedging with other crypto currencies I see very few options. Aeon is a possibility since it has a tail emission in addition to the Cryptonote adaptive blocksize limit. A Cryptonote coin without a tail emission is basically a ticking time bomb from a security point of view. One interesting possibility may be Dogecoin because it has a tail emission in a BItcoin like "in the clear" coin; however at this point in time Dogecoin does not have an adaptive blocksize limit.  I do still hold very small amounts of Bitcoin and Namecoin. The latter is basically a play on a sharp increase in the price of Bitcoin which could happen for a short period of time.

As for non crypto currency hedges, fiat (cash or very short term deposits) is my personal choice because it tends to correlate negatively with crypto as a whole. It also provides very good liquidity over the short term. Some may suggest precious metals. I find stocks to be horribly overvalued and the same can be said for real estate in many markets.
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