[XMR] Monero Speculation - page 140.

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Quote from: smooth on July 15, 2019, 10:16:22 AM

Quote from: Hueristic on July 15, 2019, 10:13:37 AM

Quote from: smooth on July 15, 2019, 09:50:50 AM

Quote from: infofront on July 15, 2019, 09:29:26 AM

Max Keiser shills for Monero now

https://oracletimes.com/monero-xmr-will-become-a-market-leader-soon-says-max-keiser/

He denied the report

Do you have a link to the denial?

Check his twitter feed. The original reply where he said "I never said this" is less clear because the original tweet was then deleted however the later ones where he just tags them as #fakenews are still there.

I don't know about this quote's veracity, but he hosted a debate with Tuur Demeester and Jimmy Song I watched (yeah, it was slow day) and he raised (positively) the importance of privacy to the guests. Both said the lack of opacity of Bitcoin's blockchain was essential, seemingly dismissive of the whole privacy issue. He looked like he disagreed, to me - he didn't mention Monero, but I would have thought he'd understand the value, I'd certainly be surprised if he dismissed privacy wholesale.

smooth

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Quote from: Hueristic on July 15, 2019, 10:13:37 AM

Quote from: smooth on July 15, 2019, 09:50:50 AM

Quote from: infofront on July 15, 2019, 09:29:26 AM

Max Keiser shills for Monero now

https://oracletimes.com/monero-xmr-will-become-a-market-leader-soon-says-max-keiser/

He denied the report

Do you have a link to the denial?

Check his twitter feed. The original reply where he said "I never said this" is less clear because the original tweet was then deleted however the later ones where he just tags them as #fakenews are still there.

Hueristic

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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Quote from: smooth on July 15, 2019, 09:50:50 AM

Quote from: infofront on July 15, 2019, 09:29:26 AM

Max Keiser shills for Monero now

https://oracletimes.com/monero-xmr-will-become-a-market-leader-soon-says-max-keiser/

He denied the report

Do you have a link to the denial?

smooth

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Quote from: infofront on July 15, 2019, 09:29:26 AM

Max Keiser shills for Monero now

https://oracletimes.com/monero-xmr-will-become-a-market-leader-soon-says-max-keiser/

He denied the report

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awe because he won't add your shitcoin? lol poloniex is the shitty exchange with FLUFFY PONY ass fucker XMR bytecoin clone!! Roll Eyes

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Ya know i ignore your shit but its been slow here so i read this and i gotta say your just going off the rails. You shit is getting more and more outlandish everyday. I thought trolls tried to trick fools? How can you possibly think touting a shitcoin that had a daily volume of 600 bucks ON A PUMP and attacking a dev thats accomplished more than you have your entire life in just 4 years?

You need to step back and up your game its just not becoming and frankly I'm embarrassed for you. Anyway I just clicked "view ignored" because i was bored, I doubt I'll be reading another one of your posts for awhile so don't bother responding.[size]

hotforblockchain

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Quote from: Whtwabbit on July 10, 2019, 03:16:42 PM

Can you remember or supply a link to the "regulation laws which can potentially impact them"?

Dont have direct link with law which talks about privacy coins.
My statement is based on pure logic- banks are accountable for knowing from where the money is coming to their accounts, they are enforcing these kind of rules to their customers.

Any exchange which is and will work with FIAT hs to have a bank account which has very high turnover. If the bank account holder can not track transactions tied to crypro transfers then they will not work with privacy coins. Too much of a risk for small profit form trading fees.

infofront

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Max Keiser shills for Monero now

https://oracletimes.com/monero-xmr-will-become-a-market-leader-soon-says-max-keiser/

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Crypto enthusiast Max Keiser revealed the fact that he’s pretty certain that Monero will gain the position as a market leader.

He believes that this is bound to happen sooner rather than later.

Keiser supports Monero and pointed out the lack of fungibility in Bitcoin’s case.

He said that Monero can serve this purpose and as a result, the privacy-oriented coin will become one of the top three digital assets in the crypto market soon.

Hueristic

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Quote from: Whtwabbit on July 15, 2019, 01:52:09 AM

Quote from: Hueristic on July 15, 2019, 01:37:46 AM

Wow, the sky is falling, what happened?

Clearing out the longs b4 huge pump?

Would be nice, I bought some m0ar. Cheesy

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Quote from: Johnny Mnemonic on June 27, 2019, 06:18:41 PM

This is the pain and FUD we've been waiting for. I predict we will hit a new USD ATH within 90 days. That means end of September.

Still on target!

Quote from: smooth on July 10, 2019, 05:39:17 PM

Reasons for XMR to potentially to overtake BTC. I'm not predicting this just throwing out reasons why it could happen.

1. Pure stupidity of crypto markets i.e. anything is possible. e.g. Verge could overtake BTC.
2. Tail reward comes to forefront as a confidence crisis over stability
3. On-chain fungibility advantage recognized as crucial
4. RandomX is a huge success (large and widely-distributed mining network becomes a clear advantage, contributing to a confidence flip)
5. Flexible blocksize results in significantly better on-chain scalability without a bloat explosion that destroys decentralization.

#2 appears to be more of an inevitability than a possibility.

Whtwabbit

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Quote from: Hueristic on July 15, 2019, 01:37:46 AM

Wow, the sky is falling, what happened?

Clearing out the longs b4 huge pump?

Hueristic

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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Wow, the sky is falling, what happened?

gembitz

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*Brute force will solve any Bitcoin problem*

Quote from: phishead on July 14, 2019, 03:34:19 PM

Quote from: mindrust on July 12, 2019, 03:53:59 PM

Quote from: smooth on July 12, 2019, 10:31:38 AM

Store of value is a narrative too. Nobody really knows for sure whether or not these assets will retain value, its all based on belief and the story being convincing.

You just described every financial asset out there. Tell me one asset which doesn't have its value based on belief and story. All of them has a story.

FIAT has value because USA tells us and they patriot the shit out of the countries which say otherwise. (Iraq, Iran, N. Korea, Libya...)

Gold has a story as well because it was being used as currency before papers started to dominate as we read from history books.

Bitcoin has its story too. (pretty strong one) It appeared right after the financial crisis in 2008 and it is a deflationary asset in the world of negative interest rates and constantly QE'd FIAT.

In all these, Monero also has a story. It is providing hardcore anonymity which is valuable as well.

The main problem here is, monero needs more of those story tellers who should convince people.

The story of Fiat having power is many more nations than just the US. The US is more of the "muscle" of the other powers that be that enforce nations like Libya, Iran, etc. to comply with the International Monetary Fund/World Trade Organization rules that are governed by unelected people who are appointed, rather than voted for by normal citizens of the world like us.

If you are doing a long road trip anytime soon and want to listen to some good journalism (even though her voice might get a bit too "pitchy" at times) you should check out this episode where this person (Jennifer Briney) talks about her going down the rabbit hole of the WTO. To me it seems to be the "behind the scenes" story of why nations like Russia, China and others are still in the midst of being strong armed into cooperating with this type of NWO ever since WWII.

https://congressionaldish.com/cd102-the-world-trade-organization-cool/

Libra vs. XMR facebook will come for fluffys ponies? Wink

reeeeee

phishead

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Keep what's important, and know who's your friend

Quote from: mindrust on July 12, 2019, 03:53:59 PM

Quote from: smooth on July 12, 2019, 10:31:38 AM

Store of value is a narrative too. Nobody really knows for sure whether or not these assets will retain value, its all based on belief and the story being convincing.

You just described every financial asset out there. Tell me one asset which doesn't have its value based on belief and story. All of them has a story.

FIAT has value because USA tells us and they patriot the shit out of the countries which say otherwise. (Iraq, Iran, N. Korea, Libya...)

Gold has a story as well because it was being used as currency before papers started to dominate as we read from history books.

Bitcoin has its story too. (pretty strong one) It appeared right after the financial crisis in 2008 and it is a deflationary asset in the world of negative interest rates and constantly QE'd FIAT.

In all these, Monero also has a story. It is providing hardcore anonymity which is valuable as well.

The main problem here is, monero needs more of those story tellers who should convince people.

The story of Fiat having power is many more nations than just the US. The US is more of the "muscle" of the other powers that be that enforce nations like Libya, Iran, etc. to comply with the International Monetary Fund/World Trade Organization rules that are governed by unelected people who are appointed, rather than voted for by normal citizens of the world like us.

If you are doing a long road trip anytime soon and want to listen to some good journalism (even though her voice might get a bit too "pitchy" at times) you should check out this episode where this person (Jennifer Briney) talks about her going down the rabbit hole of the WTO. To me it seems to be the "behind the scenes" story of why nations like Russia, China and others are still in the midst of being strong armed into cooperating with this type of NWO ever since WWII.

https://congressionaldish.com/cd102-the-world-trade-organization-cool/

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Quote from: gembitz on July 13, 2019, 03:22:18 PM

Quote from: smooth on July 13, 2019, 11:59:00 AM

Quote from: mindrust on July 12, 2019, 03:53:59 PM

Tell me one asset which doesn't have its value based on belief and story.

Food. You can eat it. Etc.

Oh wait, you said

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You just described every financial asset out there

That is probably true. If it is an asset based on money or tied to money there is certainly going to be an aspect of resale (which depends on there being a buyer who believes the story) and/or future cash flows (which depend on the story coming to pass).

XMR vs. ANC anonymous hands down ftw! ===>

https://freiexchange.com/market/ANC/BTC

BTC vs. FRC freicoin hands down ftw! ===>

Mark Freidenbacher's zero volume dead shitcoin exchange

gembitz

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*Brute force will solve any Bitcoin problem*

Quote from: smooth on July 13, 2019, 11:59:00 AM

Quote from: mindrust on July 12, 2019, 03:53:59 PM

Tell me one asset which doesn't have its value based on belief and story.

Food. You can eat it. Etc.

Oh wait, you said

Quote

You just described every financial asset out there

That is probably true. If it is an asset based on money or tied to money there is certainly going to be an aspect of resale (which depends on there being a buyer who believes the story) and/or future cash flows (which depend on the story coming to pass).

XMR vs. ANC anonymous hands down ftw! ===>

https://freiexchange.com/market/ANC/BTC

smooth

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Quote from: mindrust on July 12, 2019, 03:53:59 PM

Tell me one asset which doesn't have its value based on belief and story.

Food. You can eat it. Etc.

Oh wait, you said

Quote

You just described every financial asset out there

That is probably true. If it is an asset based on money or tied to money there is certainly going to be an aspect of resale (which depends on there being a buyer who believes the story) and/or future cash flows (which depend on the story coming to pass).

Hueristic

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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Quote from: mindrust on July 12, 2019, 03:53:59 PM

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In all these, Monero also has a story. It is providing hardcore anonymity which is valuable as well.

The main problem here is, monero needs more of those story tellers who should convince people.

The problem is sheeple expect others to fight their battles for them. They provide lip service but when it comes to putting their money where their mouths are or putting their own ass on the line they are a bunch of little fucking girls with no balls. And they are afraid and thats why the Gov can spy on them the banks can steal thier assets and fiat and fagbook/google/etc can steal and sell their data and they take it up the ass like good little princesses.

mindrust

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Quote from: smooth on July 12, 2019, 10:31:38 AM

Store of value is a narrative too. Nobody really knows for sure whether or not these assets will retain value, its all based on belief and the story being convincing.

You just described every financial asset out there. Tell me one asset which doesn't have its value based on belief and story. All of them has a story.

FIAT has value because USA tells us and they patriot the shit out of the countries which say otherwise. (Iraq, Iran, N. Korea, Libya...)

Gold has a story as well because it was being used as currency before papers started to dominate as we read from history books.

Bitcoin has its story too. (pretty strong one) It appeared right after the financial crisis in 2008 and it is a deflationary asset in the world of negative interest rates and constantly QE'd FIAT.

In all these, Monero also has a story. It is providing hardcore anonymity which is valuable as well.

The main problem here is, monero needs more of those story tellers who should convince people.

Hueristic

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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Quote from: Globb0 on July 12, 2019, 03:04:19 PM

As is a banknote. A belief that the promise to pay bearer will be honoured

I let a neighbor borrow 200 bucks once and he gave me a check. Later on when i stopped at his bank (Citizens) they tried to charge me 5 bucks to cash it! I was dumbfounded and told them that check was their word! They said if I had an account there would be no charge and I told her thats not the point, the point is I accepted the check as their word it was good and that i am not going to pay for the honor of giving an interest free loan to their customer. Eventually I opened an account deposited the check and left one dollar in the account so they can send me statements every month. Whats worse is the teller wouldn't open an account for me for the sole purpose of avoiding their fees so I had to call her manager over and the manager said open the account immediately and that went right up that tellers ass. Cheesy

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Free spirit

As is a banknote. A belief that the promise to pay bearer will be honoured

smooth

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Quote from: Millionero on July 12, 2019, 09:45:56 AM

Quote from: smooth on July 12, 2019, 08:47:09 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on July 12, 2019, 07:13:38 AM

Quote from: smooth on July 10, 2019, 05:39:17 PM

Reasons for XMR to potentially to overtake BTC. I'm not predicting this just throwing out reasons why it could happen.

1. Pure stupidity of crypto markets i.e. anything is possible. e.g. Verge could overtake BTC.
2. Tail reward comes to forefront as a confidence crisis over stability
3. On-chain fungibility advantage recognized as crucial
4. RandomX is a huge success (large and widely-distributed mining network becomes a clear advantage, contributing to a confidence flip)
5. Flexible blocksize results in significantly better on-chain scalability without a bloat explosion that destroys decentralization.

For 2 - 4, it's possible only if BTC's crazy pumps have really been cos of actual usage. But it isn't. The market is just one big, giant casino imo, so '1' is most likely. Grin

Not so much. Most of it could easily happen just due to narrative and speculation. People can always convince themselves that "actual usage" will come later.

Store of value counts as actual usage, n'est-ce pas? A very volatile store, true.

Store of value is a narrative too. Nobody really knows for sure whether or not these assets will retain value, its all based on belief and the story being convincing.

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