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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 1519. (Read 3313576 times)

hero member
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February 26, 2016, 01:32:15 PM
Mymonero.com used to accept 25 word seeds until a few days ago.
I don't think mymonero.com accepts 25 word seeds any more.  I can't get it to work.
If this is right, then the only way to have a wallet compatible with both moneroaddress.org and mymonero.com is to do an import, which costs 10 xmr.
Am I correct?
legendary
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February 26, 2016, 01:13:45 PM
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What was the hashfast fiasco about anyway?

Preorder asics that were never delivered. Cypherdoc has been accused of receiving 3000 btc to shill for them on btctalk to get people to make orders. iCEBREAKER has also been accused of being paid to shill or being in some way affiliated with the company, but I haven't seen as direct and specific accusation as has been levied against cypherdoc.

Cypherdoc's name is also on the plaintiff, whereas iCEBREAKER's isn't as far as I can see.
legendary
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February 26, 2016, 12:55:23 PM
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What was the hashfast fiasco about anyway?

Preorder asics that were never delivered. Cypherdoc has been accused of receiving 3000 btc to shill for them on btctalk to get people to make orders. iCEBREAKER has also been accused of being paid to shill or being in some way affiliated with the company, but I haven't seen as direct and specific accusation as has been levied against cypherdoc.
legendary
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February 26, 2016, 12:39:06 PM
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This community is so "polluted" ...

iCEBRAKER was a former CEO of Hashfast, criminal ASIC scammer with a lawsuit in progress.
No wonder he's all-in in Monero, he had to 'wash' his stolen bitcoins...

I see this thrown around a lot, but without any accompanying evidence. Obviously the nick iCEBREAKER appears to have been involved somehow, but in what capacity no one seems to know.

I am not sure either if it confirmed it was him. In one of the screenshots he states:

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To be fair, it's possible the site was under attack. Haters abound.

Wouldn't he know for sure if he was the CEO? Not trying to defend anyone here, but the evidence is kind of inconclusive.

Haha, of course he would know. As far as I've seen, he doesn't talk about it.

What was the hashfast fiasco about anyway?

Im not defending anyone either, certainly many scammers in the crypto currency space but remaining silent on a matter before the courts does not imply guilt.  Any lawyer would advise you to reserve your comments until the matter is fully resolved.
hero member
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February 26, 2016, 12:38:37 PM

Wise words, man! My lowest ask is at 20 BTC/XMR and I am selling at that price only 0.05 XMR worth of 1 BTC.

Conversely, now might be the time to take advantage of low hanging fruit on that ask stack.  We've tested the 170k/180k levels more than a few times and last night the top 10 cryptos on Poloniex were all slightly red.  We've seen this story before, right around February 10th.
legendary
Activity: 1105
Merit: 1000
February 26, 2016, 12:21:34 PM
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This community is so "polluted" ...

iCEBRAKER was a former CEO of Hashfast, criminal ASIC scammer with a lawsuit in progress.
No wonder he's all-in in Monero, he had to 'wash' his stolen bitcoins...

I see this thrown around a lot, but without any accompanying evidence. Obviously the nick iCEBREAKER appears to have been involved somehow, but in what capacity no one seems to know.

I am not sure either if it confirmed it was him. In one of the screenshots he states:

Quote
To be fair, it's possible the site was under attack. Haters abound.

Wouldn't he know for sure if he was the CEO? Not trying to defend anyone here, but the evidence is kind of inconclusive.

Haha, of course he would know. As far as I've seen, he doesn't talk about it.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
February 26, 2016, 12:17:03 PM
The Satoshi Roundtable event is happening this weekend.    
  
I feel confident there will be at least a few people who may have disregarded Monero previously as 'just another altcoin', talk to fluffyponyza at this event, and subsequently have the same awakening we have and realize this going to be really big.  Even outside of the crypto world, there are reps from places like Fidelity Investments etc. 
  
Some of these parties may then want in.  
  
I suggest, gentlemen and ladies, we let them it wholeheartedly and welcome them into the flock.
  
But not cheaply.  Perhaps now is the time to pull those asks off the market and find out what Monero's true market value is?   Cheesy Cool

Wise words, man! My lowest ask is at 20 BTC/XMR and I am selling at that price only 0.05 XMR worth of 1 BTC.
hero member
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February 26, 2016, 12:12:33 PM
The Satoshi Roundtable event is happening this weekend.    
  
I feel confident there will be at least a few people who may have disregarded Monero previously as 'just another altcoin', will talk to fluffyponyza at this event, and subsequently have the same awakening we have and realize this going to be really big.  Even outside of the crypto world, there are reps from places like Fidelity Investments etc.  
  
Some of these parties may then want in.  
  
I suggest, gentlemen and ladies, we let them in wholeheartedly and welcome them into the flock.
  
But not cheaply.  Perhaps now is the time to pull those asks off the market and find out what Monero's true market value is?   Cheesy Cool
legendary
Activity: 2268
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February 26, 2016, 11:14:18 AM
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This community is so "polluted" ...

iCEBRAKER was a former CEO of Hashfast, criminal ASIC scammer with a lawsuit in progress.
No wonder he's all-in in Monero, he had to 'wash' his stolen bitcoins...

I see this thrown around a lot, but without any accompanying evidence. Obviously the nick iCEBREAKER appears to have been involved somehow, but in what capacity no one seems to know.

I am not sure either if it confirmed it was him. In one of the screenshots he states:

Quote
To be fair, it's possible the site was under attack. Haters abound.

Wouldn't he know for sure if he was the CEO? Not trying to defend anyone here, but the evidence is kind of inconclusive.
legendary
Activity: 1105
Merit: 1000
February 26, 2016, 11:09:48 AM
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This community is so "polluted" ...

iCEBRAKER was a former CEO of Hashfast, criminal ASIC scammer with a lawsuit in progress.
No wonder he's all-in in Monero, he had to 'wash' his stolen bitcoins...

I see this thrown around a lot, but without any accompanying evidence. Obviously the nick iCEBREAKER appears to have been involved somehow, but in what capacity no one seems to know.
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
February 26, 2016, 10:53:56 AM
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This community is so "polluted" ...

iCEBRAKER was a former CEO of Hashfast, criminal ASIC scammer with a lawsuit in progress.
No wonder he's all-in in Monero, he had to 'wash' his stolen bitcoins...

I have Moneros waiting for you and other bears to be lent out.
Please short and pay me some interest. I am generously giving out loans with max. maturity (60 days) at these rates so no hurry to repay.
I am considering buying coins from the shorters and re-lending them back to them so that they can short and sell those coins twice.  Grin

Which part of 'I mine with 350KH/s' don't you understand ? I dump as i go..

Blocks mined today :
Code:
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legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
February 26, 2016, 10:48:46 AM
...

This community is so "polluted" ...

iCEBRAKER was a former CEO of Hashfast, criminal ASIC scammer with a lawsuit in progress.
No wonder he's all-in in Monero, he had to 'wash' his stolen bitcoins...

I have Moneros waiting for you and other bears to be lent out.
Please short and pay me some interest. I am generously giving out loans with max. maturity (60 days) at these rates so no hurry to repay.
I am considering buying coins from the shorters and re-lending them back to them so that they can short and sell those coins twice.  Grin
donator
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1036
February 26, 2016, 10:13:47 AM
AFAIK (correct me if wrong), Poloniex does not hold the account owner personally at risk if the short game goes bust.

According to their Terms of Use, they do hold the account holder responsible:

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If, after your positions and assets are liquidated, your account still contains insufficient funds to settle your debts to lenders, you will be responsible for any additional funds owed

However, if the account holder doesn't pay, the risk then theoretically falls next on the lender:

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When you lend to other users using the Platform’s P2P lending system, you risk the loss of an unpaid principle if the borrower defaults on a loan and liquidation of the borrower's account fails to raise sufficient funds to cover his or her debt.

In practice, I agree true black swan risks probably exist (aside from those that exist outside the lending system altogether).

They may be able to recover the funds from the rogue shorts, but I would not count on that.

As a non-borrowing nor lending customer, I am very happy that the lenders are the next in line, which should shield the ordinary users from any risk as naturally no more funds can be lost than what the lenders have provided.

Thank you.
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
February 26, 2016, 10:01:20 AM

... Who knows, maybe fluffypony is paying iCEBREAKER for shilling Monero Tongue

Fluffypony is a garage dweller, he would have to sell his wife to afford iCEBREAKER's services Smiley
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1116
February 26, 2016, 09:57:14 AM
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This community is so "polluted" ...

iCEBRAKER was a former CEO of Hashfast, criminal ASIC scammer with a lawsuit in progress.
No wonder he's all-in in Monero, he had to 'wash' his stolen bitcoins...

It's kind of interesting that iCEBREAKER was apparently mixed up in this scam ( http://www.deanslyons.com/PDFs/2014-03-25-Plaintiff-s-First-Amended-Petition.pdf ; interesting aside - who'd have thought you'd see bitcointalk screenshots in court proceedings) with cypherdoc, and subsequently they each ended up on opposite sides of the big block/small block bitcoin debate. Since they were both allegedly paid shills for hashfast, maybe blockstream is now paying iCEBREAKER for shilling and coinbase is paying cypherdoc to shill blocksize arguments. Who knows, maybe fluffypony is paying iCEBREAKER for shilling Monero Tongue
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
February 26, 2016, 09:42:06 AM
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This community is so "polluted" ...

iCEBRAKER was a former CEO of Hashfast, criminal ASIC scammer with a lawsuit in progress.
No wonder he's all-in in Monero, he had to 'wash' his stolen bitcoins...
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
February 26, 2016, 08:07:16 AM
AFAIK (correct me if wrong), Poloniex does not hold the account owner personally at risk if the short game goes bust. All they can do is to liquidate the collateral. In the illiquid markets, this can cause anything to happen. So the real risk is on anyone who holds any value there. It is tempting to operate this kind of platforms but the black swan has a long, fat tail...

And when you calculate that someone is short X coins and "has to cover", don't forget that it is at least possible that he is a legitimate (covered) short. Someone might for tax or other reasons be shorting (instead of selling his position) to skim some profits while waiting for m00n.


When the banks offer mortgages, they take similar risk. Sometimes a house/appartment is under water and a borrower defaults.
There are risks. My job as a lender is to estimate the probabilities and compare it to the reward I am getting. Definetely, if the interest rates are sub 0.1 % per day, it is not worth the risk.
legendary
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February 26, 2016, 06:29:05 AM
AFAIK (correct me if wrong), Poloniex does not hold the account owner personally at risk if the short game goes bust.

According to their Terms of Use, they do hold the account holder responsible:

Quote
If, after your positions and assets are liquidated, your account still contains insufficient funds to settle your debts to lenders, you will be responsible for any additional funds owed

However, if the account holder doesn't pay, the risk then theoretically falls next on the lender:

Quote
When you lend to other users using the Platform’s P2P lending system, you risk the loss of an unpaid principle if the borrower defaults on a loan and liquidation of the borrower's account fails to raise sufficient funds to cover his or her debt.

In practice, I agree true black swan risks probably exist (aside from those that exist outside the lending system altogether).
donator
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1036
February 26, 2016, 03:56:22 AM
AFAIK (correct me if wrong), Poloniex does not hold the account owner personally at risk if the short game goes bust. All they can do is to liquidate the collateral. In the illiquid markets, this can cause anything to happen. So the real risk is on anyone who holds any value there. It is tempting to operate this kind of platforms but the black swan has a long, fat tail...

And when you calculate that someone is short X coins and "has to cover", don't forget that it is at least possible that he is a legitimate (covered) short. Someone might for tax or other reasons be shorting (instead of selling his position) to skim some profits while waiting for m00n.
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
February 25, 2016, 11:53:34 PM
Can anyone explain to me how lending monero does any good for monero at all?

The way I figure it, lending monero, at any rate, doesn't make any sense. Because even if its at 5%, you simply borrow monero, dump, then place a buy wall with you new bitcoin right above the price you dumped to. So you're bound to buyback the monero you just sold + more monero to cover the lending rate.

or do I not get markets. This second option is highly likely.

The interest payments squeezes more Moneros from the market when repaid than initially borrowed.
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