[XMR] Monero Speculation - page 1815.

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Quote from: americanpegasus on August 04, 2015, 08:19:36 PM

Shit, OK. Last Linux post this time, for real for real.

I just read about Tails on Wikipedia. That would seem to be the best Distro for Monero paranoids, right?

Wait, I'm a huge goober. I just realized that's a 32-bit OS, right? Tongue

That means I can't compile and run Monero, since it requires a 64-bit machine, right?. BAH HUMBUG. I'll just have to wait it looks like until the database work is done and a 32-bit version is released, or I'll have to bump up to a 64-bit laptop.

double edit: Ahhhh, I'm a moron. The processor is a Intel® Celeron® Processor N2840 which is 64-bit. I had no idea they made 64-bit processors under the Celeron name. Wow. Ok, I guess I *am* in business. Cool!

I was told by someone recently that tails does support 64 bit machines. This seems to agree: https://tails.boum.org/support/faq/index.en.html#index6h2

Also, the latest source version from github does not require 64 bit in theory. It works on 32 bit for the most part but there may be some issues. I recommend sticking with 64 bit if your processor supports it.

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Quote from: cAPSLOCK on August 04, 2015, 05:46:04 PM

Arch is my distro of choice but for a noobie I'd recommend Mint or Elementary OS. The first would be easy for a Windows user to migrate to, is mostly Ubuntu based, and exceedingly stable. The second is less mature, it's purely Ubuntu based and more mac like in its ui. Both would be easy to use.

He might also consider vagrant/virtualbox with a mint vm if he doesn't have a spare box.

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Quote from: s1gs3gv on August 04, 2015, 09:26:03 PM

A few short questions about the project:

1) Looking at the design and development goals for monero at https://getmonero.org/design-goals/, what is the rationale for using zeroMQ for RPC ?

2) How is ongoing development financed ?

3) What processes are used to define the design goals and prioritize them ?

4) Should a need arise to change the POW algo because, for example, someone introduces a CryptoNight FPGA or ASIC device, what process would the monero community and/or the development team use to pick a new algorithm and schedule its introduction ?

5) Are there estimated dates for the completion of these goals ?

I think this is better discussed on the main thread, or the official forum (forum.getmonero.org). I'm not sure how many of the other members of the core team or contributing developers even read this thread.

Of course once that discussion takes place the answers may be relevant to speculators and investors in which case they can be cross posted here.

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A few short questions about the project:

1) Looking at the design and development goals for monero at https://getmonero.org/design-goals/, what is the rationale for using zeroMQ for RPC ?

2) How is ongoing development financed ?

3) What processes are used to define the design goals and prioritize them ?

4) Should a need arise to change the POW algo because, for example, someone introduces a CryptoNight FPGA or ASIC device, what process would the monero community and/or the development team use to pick a new algorithm and schedule its introduction ?

5) Are there estimated dates for the completion of these goals ?

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Quote from: americanpegasus on August 04, 2015, 08:19:36 PM

Shit, OK. Last Linux post this time, for real for real.

I just read about Tails on Wikipedia. That would seem to be the best Distro for Monero paranoids, right?

Wait, I'm a huge goober. I just realized that's a 32-bit OS, right? Tongue

That means I can't compile and run Monero, since it requires a 64-bit machine, right?. BAH HUMBUG. I'll just have to wait it looks like until the database work is done and a 32-bit version is released, or I'll have to bump up to a 64-bit laptop.

I used to boot from Tails with a live disc and use a local copy of bitaddress.org to generate paper bitcoin wallets. Never had any problems.

You could do the same with moneroaddress.org to generate your address - its all done in your browser so you don't need to connect to any network - just write down your wallet seed.

I also suggest testing your storage methods first with a small amount to get some confidence restoring wallets from the deterministic seed. Find a few places to safely store copies, digital and paper.

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Quote from: americanpegasus on August 04, 2015, 08:19:36 PM

Shit, OK. Last Linux post this time, for real for real.

I just read about Tails and even how the NSA said it was a "major threat". That would seem to be the best Distro for Monero paranoids, right?

Tails is generally well regarded (up to the point at which Tor itself is known to have major issues) but I wouldn't necessarily believe everything that comes out of the NSA, etc. either, even if it was leaked. Compartmentalization means that one part of the NSA, etc. might consider something a major threat while another part has it completely compromised.

But realistically you are already well ahead of the game security-wise if you are using reasonable Linux instead of Windows.

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Shit, OK. Last Linux post this time, for real for real.

I just read about Tails on Wikipedia. That would seem to be the best Distro for Monero paranoids, right?

Wait, I'm a huge goober. I just realized that's a 32-bit OS, right? Tongue

That means I can't compile and run Monero, since it requires a 64-bit machine, right?. BAH HUMBUG. I'll just have to wait it looks like until the database work is done and a 32-bit version is released, or I'll have to bump up to a 64-bit laptop.

double edit: Ahhhh, I'm a moron. The processor is a Intel® Celeron® Processor N2840 which is 64-bit. I had no idea they made 64-bit processors under the Celeron name. Wow. Ok, I guess I *am* in business. Cool!

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Oh wow, I'm not going to keep derailing this into a Linux discussion, but today for the first time in my life I Googled phrases such as "Linux distro review" and "top linux distro 2015", "best linux for newbies" and I am amazed.

We have come a LONG way since 2002 when I first was looking at this stuff. There's even a Steam OS if you buy a laptop just for games.... I am floored.

Ok, well since I'm a total Linux virgin it's probably best to write about this separately and make a guide for anyone like me who is totally new and interested in something like this. Thanks for the nudge and the advice.

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Quote from: ArticMine on August 04, 2015, 05:28:10 PM

Quote from: DaveyJones on August 04, 2015, 05:17:03 PM

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More sheer lazyness... i tried to compile myself for windows 7 ... and after some minor issues that got resolved through #monero-dev, i was able to do it.

Did you compile on Windows 7 or on GNU/Linux in order to generate a Windows 7 executable? Big difference! I am not saying that one cannot compile Monero on Windows 7, I am saying that for a moderately tech savvy person it is way simpler to just install Ubuntu GNU/Linux and compile on Ubuntu than to find and install all the software that is required to successfully compile Monero on Windows 7.

Edit: Can one compile Monero on an IPad or would the DRM get in the way? Yet it is simple to trade Monero using an iPad.

msys64 but like luigi said it was basically a noob-proof copy&paste from the README.

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Quote from: americanpegasus on August 04, 2015, 05:37:25 PM

Quote from: ArticMine on August 04, 2015, 05:28:10 PM

Quote from: DaveyJones on August 04, 2015, 05:17:03 PM

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More sheer lazyness... i tried to compile myself for windows 7 ... and after some minor issues that got resolved through #monero-dev, i was able to do it.

Did you compile on Windows 7 or on GNU/Linux in order to generate a Windows 7 executable? Big difference! I am not saying that one cannot compile Monero on Windows 7, I am saying that for a moderately tech savvy person it is way simpler to just install Ubuntu GNU/Linux and compile on Ubuntu than to find and install all the software that is required to successfully compile Monero on Windows 7.

I'm about to learn Linux basics and create an install CD for a new laptop. What distro would you recommend I use. I'll look up some user guides online, but it will be a nice shortcut to know what is the recommend distro to use for a first time user only interested in using it to compile Monero and run a node (I'm just assuming there's many to choose from)

Also, forgive me if anything I just said is n00bish or ridiculous, I'm a Windows-baby up until today.

Arch is my distro of choice but for a noobie I'd recommend Mint or Elementary OS. The first would be easy for a Windows user to migrate to, is mostly Ubuntu based, and exceedingly stable. The second is less mature, it's purely Ubuntu based and more mac like in its ui. Both would be easy to use.

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Quote from: ArticMine on August 04, 2015, 05:28:10 PM

Quote from: DaveyJones on August 04, 2015, 05:17:03 PM

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More sheer lazyness... i tried to compile myself for windows 7 ... and after some minor issues that got resolved through #monero-dev, i was able to do it.

Did you compile on Windows 7 or on GNU/Linux in order to generate a Windows 7 executable? Big difference! I am not saying that one cannot compile Monero on Windows 7, I am saying that for a moderately tech savvy person it is way simpler to just install Ubuntu GNU/Linux and compile on Ubuntu than to find and install all the software that is required to successfully compile Monero on Windows 7.

Edit: Can one compile Monero on an IPad or would the DRM get in the way? Yet it is simple to trade Monero using an iPad.

Actually it's mostly just copy/paste from the README, and certainly much faster than installing Linux (if you don't have it already).

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Quote from: ArticMine on August 04, 2015, 05:28:10 PM

Quote from: DaveyJones on August 04, 2015, 05:17:03 PM

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More sheer lazyness... i tried to compile myself for windows 7 ... and after some minor issues that got resolved through #monero-dev, i was able to do it.

Did you compile on Windows 7 or on GNU/Linux in order to generate a Windows 7 executable? Big difference! I am not saying that one cannot compile Monero on Windows 7, I am saying that for a moderately tech savvy person it is way simpler to just install Ubuntu GNU/Linux and compile on Ubuntu than to find and install all the software that is required to successfully compile Monero on Windows 7.

I'm about to learn Linux basics and create an install CD for a new laptop. What distro would you recommend I use. I'll look up some user guides online, but it will be a nice shortcut to know what is the recommend distro to use for a first time user only interested in using it to compile Monero and run a node (I'm just assuming there's many to choose from)

Also, forgive me if anything I just said is n00bish or ridiculous, I'm a Windows-baby up until today.

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Quote from: DaveyJones on August 04, 2015, 05:17:03 PM

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More sheer lazyness... i tried to compile myself for windows 7 ... and after some minor issues that got resolved through #monero-dev, i was able to do it.

Did you compile on Windows 7 or on GNU/Linux in order to generate a Windows 7 executable? Big difference! I am not saying that one cannot compile Monero on Windows 7, I am saying that for a moderately tech savvy person it is way simpler to just install Ubuntu GNU/Linux and compile on Ubuntu than to find and install all the software that is required to successfully compile Monero on Windows 7.

Edit: Can one compile Monero on an IPad or would the DRM get in the way? Yet it is simple to trade Monero using an iPad.

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Quote from: ArticMine on August 04, 2015, 04:51:13 PM

Quote from: rpietila on August 04, 2015, 12:25:15 PM

Quote from: TrueCryptonaire on August 04, 2015, 10:38:29 AM

Quote from: rpietila on August 04, 2015, 09:03:02 AM

XMR liquidity in the Poloniex exchange is low. I need to make some high-volume trades for a client who requires public record of the transactions. So how about we all slowly gather to Poloniex, and are ready with our XMR so that the trades can happen?!

When are you planning to do it? My ask price of coins that I am swing trading goes up 5 % on every Friday.

It is possible that the wall at 0.002 is mine and wants to acquire more coinX. So please dump into it and if you have more, ask for a bigger wall!

Selling any XMR is simply not in the cards for me. There is no way I can justify it. The reality is that, as I mentioned before, there is an ever widening gap between the "official" binary releases that are over eight months old and the current Monero code on github https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero. The difference in performance is literally night and day. Not to count in the sheer number of commits and other less obvious but criticality important improvements to the code. A lot has changed since the days of below 0.001 XMR/XBT; however this is far from obvious. I take the point of view that the market has not priced this in yet due in a large part to the choices in operating systems made by many of the market participants.

More sheer lazyness... i tried to compile myself for windows 7 ... and after some minor issues that got resolved through #monero-dev, i was able to do it.

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Quote from: rpietila on August 04, 2015, 12:25:15 PM

Quote from: TrueCryptonaire on August 04, 2015, 10:38:29 AM

Quote from: rpietila on August 04, 2015, 09:03:02 AM

XMR liquidity in the Poloniex exchange is low. I need to make some high-volume trades for a client who requires public record of the transactions. So how about we all slowly gather to Poloniex, and are ready with our XMR so that the trades can happen?!

When are you planning to do it? My ask price of coins that I am swing trading goes up 5 % on every Friday.

It is possible that the wall at 0.002 is mine and wants to acquire more coinX. So please dump into it and if you have more, ask for a bigger wall!

Selling any XMR is simply not in the cards for me. There is no way I can justify it. The reality is that, as I mentioned before, there is an ever widening gap between the "official" binary releases that are over eight months old and the current Monero code on github https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero. The difference in performance is literally night and day. Not to count in the sheer number of commits and other less obvious but criticality important improvements to the code. A lot has changed since the days of below 0.001 XMR/XBT; however this is far from obvious. I take the point of view that the market has not priced this in yet due in a large part to the choices in operating systems made by many of the market participants.

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Quote from: americanpegasus on August 04, 2015, 04:28:07 PM

If you guys want some top kek, check out the structure fire in bitcoin land because of even a mistaken possibility that Satoshi's coins might be moving.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3frn1d/satoshis_coins_have_not_moved_blockchaininfo_is

I saw that too. It also looked real at first glance until you noticed 0 confirmations and other details..

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If you guys want some top kek, check out the structure fire in bitcoin land because of even a mistaken possibility that Satoshi's coins might be moving.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3frn1d/satoshis_coins_have_not_moved_blockchaininfo_is

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Quote from: dreamspark on August 04, 2015, 04:06:40 PM

Sounds about as fishy as you can get r.e that message from 'big vern'

In fact its pretty much an exact copy of a twitter scam thats been happening over the past week where known crypto twitter users are having their accounts copied.

That account is then asking people for 1 btc to join a pump group and promising them their 1btc entry fee back when they leave.

In fact I'd go as far as to hang my head out and say that is certainly not big vern asking for that 1btc. Happy to be proved wrong but I'd bet 10btc that if the boolberry guy looks closer at the big vern twitter account it will have an l instead of an i in bigvern. i.e. @blgvern.

OMG you are right! I feel bad for getting hopes up but am grateful you caught this....

This is the real account: https://twitter.com/cryptsy

This is the (good at first glance) fake I received the message from:
https://twitter.com/crpytsy

I will answer more questions later, but I want to go warn BBR people in Reddit, etc first.

Please report the fake account. Luckily I had not yet sent any donations to the scammer yet.

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Sounds about as fishy as you can get r.e that message from 'big vern'

In fact its pretty much an exact copy of a twitter scam thats been happening over the past week where known crypto twitter users are having their accounts copied.

That account is then asking people for 1 btc to join a pump group and promising them their 1btc entry fee back when they leave.

In fact I'd go as far as to hang my head out and say that is certainly not big vern asking for that 1btc. Happy to be proved wrong but I'd bet 10btc that if the boolberry guy looks closer at the big vern twitter account it will have an l instead of an i in bigvern. i.e. @blgvern.

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Im not a supporter of paid exchange addings, its their business as operators to find coins worthwhile ... not ours to bribe us into an exchange.

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