So, I did not expect to cause such a stir with the faketoshi theory... but I think our discussion makes evident the (unfortunate) power he has gathered for himself.
Also, the trolls coming out of the woodwork like termites is quite interesting.
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Monero 1k one day,a dream or reality?
One day? Really? I was just scolding someone that expect this in long 3 years time. Already next year emission will get extremely low. In 9 moths time daily inflation gets even under Bitcoins one. You can see what halvings does to Bitcoin. Monero will sort of have its 4th halving at end of 2019.
Monero 1k one day,a dream or reality?
You sound... depressed... ;-)
Monero 1k one day,a dream or reality?
Fwiw I think CSW is probably Satoshi. That doesn't mean I like him. But I pay attention to what he says.
Personally I've come to the conclusion (a long time ago) that CSW is an asshole, yes, but he probably really WAS part of "being Satoshi" at the very beginning of all this Great Grand Experiment.
My conclusion is that Dave K was the technical guy who put the pieces together, Hal F was the technical guy who made the early code actually work (and lived nearby to Dorian in the same neighborhood! Coincidence?? Nope) and that Craig was their associate who wasn't "technical" but knew how to talk the talk, and he was good in the marketing stuff and big-picture ideas stuff, such as building the global un-censor-able poker game into early bitcoin client, that helped all of 'em actually get the idea off the ground.
But now Dave and Hal are both dead, and so Craig in his ego in his own mind can think "I am Satoshi" because he's the only piece left.
But it's just a shadow of a piece of the real thing.
And I doubt he has the coins. Those died with Dave in the locked-up heavily encrypted USB stick on the chain around his neck that he probably was still wearing when he died.
But YES... IF this is wrong and Craig has more power/coin than my conclusion assumes, we'll see what happens after the 15th I suppose.
Crypto is never boring, at least. LOL
Anyway, him being Satoshi or not is irrelevant to the fact that he may be the first guy, with his fellow Ayre, to manage take over an important PoW chain. And that alone is worthy of consideration.
POW chain that is owned by Bitman as so many others, one of them is also Monero classic? Let him have it LOL.
I am talking of the "to manage take over an important PoW chain." that chain is already taken so if it will be taken by another lunatic why should anyone cares. Rich kids have expensive toys.
if he tries to destroy privacy coins like XMR, good, if he can monero wasn't good tech.
All such announcements of some attacks are always fake. The announcement is an attack itself. He will repeat it for few months then everyone will forget about it.
This is a ICO style. Pre announcement of an announcement.
Now with this new algo, already all exchanges using a low fee or still not?
You cant use Monero now without bulletproof so all exchanges are forced to use lower fees. But some exchanges still charge higher fees. I might be out of loop but speculate Bithumb, HitBTC, Huobi have not change fees yet.
some struggle with the idea that people involved with the 'satoshi entity' and the creation of bitcoin might be arrogant dickheads with nasty personal habits, and even might have acted dishonestly in many provable ways.
Vitalik and Ver both say if CSW is Satoshi it would not increase their opinion of him, just lower their opinion of satoshi ... the point is it doesn't make any difference to Bitcoin tech, only weak minds care about who does things, strong minds focus on the 'things' themselves.
If a pedo released a cold fusion whitepaper with working prototype only weak minded fools would focus on the character and backstory of the one who released it, who cares about CSW the man, if he tries to destroy privacy coins like XMR, good, if he can monero wasn't good tech.
That's the thing tho. There's a difference between a man who actually knows what to do and tries to find what he can exploit in privacy coins and a man who's just f*ckin talking in order to attract some attention
Vitalik and Ver both say if CSW is Satoshi it would not increase their opinion of him, just lower their opinion of satoshi ... the point is it doesn't make any difference to Bitcoin tech, only weak minds care about who does things, strong minds focus on the 'things' themselves.
^ This, Bitcoin & blockchain are all about what provably happened, CSW loves to trigger people, it doesn't alter how much hash he controls, and we'll soon see how much that is.
some struggle with the idea that people involved with the 'satoshi entity' and the creation of bitcoin might be arrogant dickheads with nasty personal habits, and even might have acted dishonestly in many provable ways.
Vitalik and Ver both say if CSW is Satoshi it would not increase their opinion of him, just lower their opinion of satoshi ... the point is it doesn't make any difference to Bitcoin tech, only weak minds care about who does things, strong minds focus on the 'things' themselves.
If a pedo released a cold fusion whitepaper with working prototype only weak minded fools would focus on the character and backstory of the one who released it, who cares about CSW the man, if he tries to destroy privacy coins like XMR, good, if he can monero wasn't good tech.
Now with this new algo, already all exchanges using a low fee or still not?
I didn't know about that New Hampshire referendum.
That's pretty cool, it would be nice to see it nationally!
It would be nice, but their state motto is "Live free or die", so I'm not surprised they would do that.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and Personal Privacy.
Pursuit of Happiness has already lost in court.
I didn't know about that New Hampshire referendum.
That's pretty cool, it would be nice to see it nationally!
It would be nice, but their state motto is "Live free or die", so I'm not surprised they would do that.
The Monero Moon (Issue 10) is now available for your reading pleasure. It's better than s....
https://medium.com/@johnfoss/the-monero-moon-issue-10-557b768e7717
https://medium.com/@johnfoss/the-monero-moon-issue-10-557b768e7717
Keep up the good work, mate. Merited.
I didn't know about that New Hampshire referendum.
Thats pretty cool, it would be nice to see it nationally!
If he fails Thursday, then everybody can keep thinking at him as a clown. But if he succeed, then please, pay attention.
Independent rational thinking without emotion is needed which many here lack, some struggle with the idea that people involved with the 'satoshi entity' and the creation of bitcoin might be arrogant dickheads with nasty personal habits, and even might have acted dishonestly in many provable ways. That is ALL irrelevant in what is to come, if satoshi bitcoins start moving in 2020 it doesn't matter diddly squat about the personality and character of the people moving them, just WHERE they move them, and how much hash they control.
Humanity is conditioned to using great innovations created by dishonest dickheads.
Completely Retarded Post about FakeToshi
w0w I havn't put a Lengendary account on ignore in I can't remember when. Congrats!
FYI, I went back and read your post history as well. At least it doesn't drop into the red territory.
The Monero Moon (Issue 10) is now available for your reading pleasure. It's better than s....
https://medium.com/@johnfoss/the-monero-moon-issue-10-557b768e7717
https://medium.com/@johnfoss/the-monero-moon-issue-10-557b768e7717
Keep up the good work, mate. Merited.
Anyway, him being Satoshi or not is irrelevant to the fact that he may be the first guy, with his fellow Ayre, to manage take over an important PoW chain. And that alone is worthy of consideration.
POW chain that is owned by Bitman as so many others, one of them is also Monero classic? Let him have it LOL.
The may make or break his reputation in 2019 and 2020 too.
I just hope that he's not involved in MoneroV and other Monero forsk that requires private keys and other info from Monero.
What reputation? anyone who knows anything already knows he's full of bullshit.
Like Mcafee minus the hookers and blow.
Completely Retarded Post about FakeToshi
w0w I havn't put a Lengendary account on ignore in I can't remember when. Congrats!
FYI, I went back and read your post history as well. At least it doesn't drop into the red territory.
So the guy who can't prove he's Satoshi is going to prove who everyone else is? I'm wondering what a psychoanalyst would make of that...
On a practical note, those 3 systems work in very different ways, so wouldn't he need 3 separate mechanisms for analysis? I guess we'll have to wait the year out biting our nails in feverish anticipation for doom's day or purchase whatever is sure to be the "better" solution. Crypto has anhilated my faith in mankind's motives--which isn't a bad thing, just makes me long for my youthful ignorance.
This was my first thought as well. The fact that all three of those privacy projects use very different techniques means a unified solution to uncover them all and also throwing Tor in the mix on top of that seems pretty disingenuous. This is the reason that I think he's actually throwing this out for one of two other reasons. One... just to make other projects outside of Bitcoin SV look bad or two... he's wanting to depress the price in the so-called privacy sector for some other reason.
I am tempted to say he is just talking out of his ass. But actually I think the guy is a little bit too crafty for just that. I think he and Calvin Aire and possibly even Jihan and Ver are making moves.
XMR is currently in rollercoaster mode.
Fwiw I think CSW is probably Satoshi. That doesn't mean I like him. But I pay attention to what he says.
And, should he managed to take over BCH, I urge every body to pay attention to him. Because he doesn't like altcoins at all, and if he succed in taking over one PoW chain, then Monero could be very well be his next target.
Probably Satoshi? No way. For me he is plainly an ill-tempered, nasty and totally flawed liar. I have no doubt he was around, but significantly? A key to Bitcoin's development? I doubt it. He is ready to lie and fake anything and if he has access to any significant keys, I doubt it was honestly. He is happy to fake a signature and backdate a document, it seems. So he has no credibility whatsoever. That doesn't mean he isn't dangerous, or won't pick up followers; it does mean anything he says must be taken with a very large pinch of salt.
Satoshi probably doesn't care a lot what other are thinking of him. CSW just don't care what other think, he doesn't behave like that to stole money from someone, he just doesn't care. It might even be a strategy to filter out people.
Anyway, him being Satoshi or not is irrelevant to the fact that he may be the first guy, with his fellow Ayre, to manage take over an important PoW chain. And that alone is worthy of consideration.
If he fails Thursday, then everybody can keep thinking at him as a clown. But if he succeed, then please, pay attention.
So the guy who can't prove he's Satoshi is going to prove who everyone else is? I'm wondering what a psychoanalyst would make of that...
On a practical note, those 3 systems work in very different ways, so wouldn't he need 3 separate mechanisms for analysis? I guess we'll have to wait the year out biting our nails in feverish anticipation for doom's day or purchase whatever is sure to be the "better" solution. Crypto has anhilated my faith in mankind's motives--which isn't a bad thing, just makes me long for my youthful ignorance.
This was my first thought as well. The fact that all three of those privacy projects use very different techniques means a unified solution to uncover them all and also throwing Tor in the mix on top of that seems pretty disingenuous. This is the reason that I think he's actually throwing this out for one of two other reasons. One... just to make other projects outside of Bitcoin SV look bad or two... he's wanting to depress the price in the so-called privacy sector for some other reason.
I am tempted to say he is just talking out of his ass. But actually I think the guy is a little bit too crafty for just that. I think he and Calvin Aire and possibly even Jihan and Ver are making moves.
XMR is currently in rollercoaster mode.
Fwiw I think CSW is probably Satoshi. That doesn't mean I like him. But I pay attention to what he says.
And, should he managed to take over BCH, I urge every body to pay attention to him. Because he doesn't like altcoins at all, and if he succed in taking over one PoW chain, then Monero could be very well be his next target.
Probably Satoshi? No way. For me he is plainly an ill-tempered, nasty and totally flawed liar. I have no doubt he was around, but significantly? A key to Bitcoin's development? I doubt it. He is ready to lie and fake anything and if he has access to any significant keys, I doubt it was honestly. He is happy to fake a signature and backdate a document, it seems. So he has no credibility whatsoever. That doesn't mean he isn't dangerous, or won't pick up followers; it does mean anything he says must be taken with a very large pinch of salt.
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