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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 2074. (Read 3314316 times)

sr. member
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January 28, 2015, 05:14:11 PM
Monero is too buggy doesn't have a GUI.

Why Monero and not Darkcoin?

there I changed it to what you actually meant Wink

(edited once to make me wink)


thx this is it

Looks like a GUI too me (MyMonero.com). Again, WHY DARKCOIN?


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January 28, 2015, 05:03:19 PM
Monero is too buggy doesn't have a GUI.

Why Monero and not Darkcoin?

there I changed it to what you actually meant Wink

(edited once to make me wink)


thx this is it
legendary
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January 28, 2015, 05:02:12 PM
Monero is too buggy doesn't have a GUI.

Why Monero and not Darkcoin?

there I changed it to what you actually meant Wink

There's a lot of words on this topic (darkcoin vs. monero), but the short of it is: darkcoin's anonymity tech is inferior to monero's. Darkcoin relies on masternodes to essentially do coin mixing, whereas monero's anonymity is baked into the protocol. So darkcoin is infrastructure dependent, which ends up causing increased centralization (which decreases the effort to de-privatize the network), whereas monero's privacy is built into the actual code itself. There are no masternodes)

(edited once to make me wink)

(edited twice to take a stab at explaining)

/end derail
donator
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GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com
January 28, 2015, 04:55:24 PM
Monero is too buggy.

Why Monero and not Darkcoin?

Awesome - you've found bugs! And here we thought we'd squashed them all:)

Could you list the bugs, or at least let us know your GitHub username so we can see the GitHub issues you've opened?
sr. member
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January 28, 2015, 04:52:38 PM
Monero is too buggy.

Why Monero and not Darkcoin?

Too buggy? So far my experience with Monero I haven't encountered any bugs.

As for Darkcoin, I asked first: Why Darkcoin?
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January 28, 2015, 04:42:04 PM
Monero is too buggy.

Why Monero and not Darkcoin?
sr. member
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January 28, 2015, 04:38:55 PM
Anon Coin: Monero???
Anon Coin: Darkcoin

Why Darkcoin?
legendary
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January 28, 2015, 04:30:36 PM
Anon Coin: Monero???
Anon Coin: Darkcoin

Because?

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January 28, 2015, 04:29:43 PM
Anon Coin: Monero???
Anon Coin: Darkcoin
legendary
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January 28, 2015, 04:16:18 PM
What is today is today. But actually, it is easy to see, why in the future  ~5 to ~8 large Crypto Currencies are probably:

- 1 to 3 universal ones
- 2 commercial-operated & B2B-focused
- 1 Anon / Privacy Coin
- From 0 to 1 for a micro-transactions
- 1 to 3 asset exchanges plattforms their unique coins (ie trading of company shares.)
- 1 to 2 strong, non-volatile crypto Asset Coins for long-term investment

Total = 6 to 12 big leading Crypto Currencies in a sea of thousands of small, unimporant, stupid, nonsense CCs

Substituting times on, what we have today in strong projects, that certainly wont disappear:

- Universal: Bitcoin
- commercial-operated & B2B-focused: Stellar & Ripple
- An Anon / Privacy Coin: Monero
- Micro-transactions: currently unknown, none
- Asset Exchange plattforms: Bitshares
- Crypto-asset Coins for long-term investment: currently unknown, none

To me, this is very logical. I especially set the values for debatable points very variable.



Source: my huge brain
hero member
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Monero (XMR) - secure, private, untraceable
January 28, 2015, 12:14:17 PM

this weirdo idea of some experts that bitcoin will be replaced by something better which we should wait for is so brutally flawed that I really wonder what they get their money for.



I see two spaces which will be filled by something other than bitcoin.  The 2.0 smart contracts etc system (counterparty? etherium? nxt?) and privacy. 
I know this is not the right thread to discuss other altcoins, but smart contracts are already a reality. Surprisingly (for me) it was implemented in a coin I treated like a shitcoin (mine and sell whatever the price). The coin is proof of capacity (you mine it on many TBs of HDD) and is called BURST. Here is a recent publication about BURST and smart contracts: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/cryptocurrency-burst-makes-smart-contracts-reality-happened-ethereum/. I was just mining it and selling, so I didn't researched it a lot, so everything I know about the coin is that it seems it's not a premine and it's NXT based (but not POS). I have the feeling it's very easy to pump and dump (low market cap, many large miners still not selling) so be extremely careful with it.
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January 28, 2015, 11:50:10 AM

this weirdo idea of some experts that bitcoin will be replaced by something better which we should wait for is so brutally flawed that I really wonder what they get their money for.



I see two spaces which will be filled by something other than bitcoin.  The 2.0 smart contracts etc system (counterparty? etherium? nxt?) and privacy.  

Market-pegged crypto assets are another very cool niche as well. I love the idea that I can short the S&P 500 using cryptographically secure collateral in a trustless, low-risk environment. Or hold crypto-rubles or crypto-Chinese yuan. Market-pegged assets are just as interesting a niche as smart contracts. We just have to see which system can do it best.

look - I hold even one of this smart contract tokens in quite a decent amount and had even a few projects more - the nearer to bitcoin the better.
but if you really really break it down you have to ask - why use bitshares as a collateral, when it would be much easier to use btc as a collateral? - if it works they will clone it and use it as a sidechain, same holds true for obvious all other 2.0 projects.
my argumentation for still holding especially the one I am closest to is that the incentive for btc to clone is low as well as it takes serious manpower to do it. if they fail to clone these projects early theymay have time to enter the space and embed into the industry.

the core difference with monero or the technology is that bitcoin will have serious political problems to embed it into a sidechain once it is regulated. do you really think that any authority will accept an (almost) bulletproof private ledger, where blockchain analysis is (close to) impossible?

as told before - there will probably be one big decentralised transparent ledger, which is very likely bitcoin. there will additionally be one big private decentralised ledger - this one still has to be found - I think monero is at this point of time the most likely.
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21 million. I want them all.
January 28, 2015, 11:11:06 AM

this weirdo idea of some experts that bitcoin will be replaced by something better which we should wait for is so brutally flawed that I really wonder what they get their money for.



I see two spaces which will be filled by something other than bitcoin.  The 2.0 smart contracts etc system (counterparty? etherium? nxt?) and privacy.  

Market-pegged crypto assets are another very cool niche as well. I love the idea that I can short the S&P 500 using cryptographically secure collateral in a trustless, low-risk environment. Or hold crypto-rubles or crypto-Chinese yuan. Market-pegged assets are just as interesting a niche as smart contracts. We just have to see which system can do it best.
legendary
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January 28, 2015, 11:04:44 AM

this weirdo idea of some experts that bitcoin will be replaced by something better which we should wait for is so brutally flawed that I really wonder what they get their money for.



I see two spaces which will be filled by something other than bitcoin.  The 2.0 smart contracts etc system (counterparty? etherium? nxt?) and privacy. 

smart contracts = the new lawyers will be people that can read code to determine the integrity of the smart contract.

u think there's a use case for private contracts?
legendary
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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
January 28, 2015, 10:56:29 AM

this weirdo idea of some experts that bitcoin will be replaced by something better which we should wait for is so brutally flawed that I really wonder what they get their money for.



I see two spaces which will be filled by something other than bitcoin.  The 2.0 smart contracts etc system (counterparty? etherium? nxt?) and privacy. 
hero member
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January 28, 2015, 07:56:27 AM
we can discuss shit about charts etc. pp. - this is maybe important for the liquidity providers but for the rest it is dust in the wind.

the outcome for monero will be binary. in 2-3 years it will either be currency [not neccessarily token] number 2 or it will be a-like-vertcoin forgotten coin in the history of crypto-evolution.

if it fails it will be interesting and long discussed why. Until that time I happily take the risk, as I did from the very beginning of the project.

Vertcoin and Groestlcoin = 99% identical to BTC except the POW algo
Monero = 99% different including the POW algo

Monero is a completly different being, it can only be replace by something better both in the initial distribution and in features, not an easy feat.

exactly.
the simple explanation for building a long term project in this strange environment with one dominant player is:

a) finding a niche
b) having developers which are capable of building the software properly
c) evolution of an acitve community which is capable of building the first services
d) having users (if a,b and c are fullfilled d is simply a consequence)

monero is somewhere between b and c. but let me get this clear, once the niche is filled, the coin will not be replaced any more no matter how much technical superior the following projects are. - this weirdo idea of some experts that bitcoin will be replaced by something better which we should wait for is so brutally flawed that I really wonder what they get their money for.

sr. member
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January 28, 2015, 07:46:57 AM
we can discuss shit about charts etc. pp. - this is maybe important for the liquidity providers but for the rest it is dust in the wind.

the outcome for monero will be binary. in 2-3 years it will either be currency [not neccessarily token] number 2 or it will be a-like-vertcoin forgotten coin in the history of crypto-evolution.

if it fails it will be interesting and long discussed why. Until that time I happily take the risk, as I did from the very beginning of the project.

You're talking about demand, while I was talking about supply. They are both important.
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January 28, 2015, 07:18:40 AM
we can discuss shit about charts etc. pp. - this is maybe important for the liquidity providers but for the rest it is dust in the wind.

the outcome for monero will be binary. in 2-3 years it will either be currency [not neccessarily token] number 2 or it will be a-like-vertcoin forgotten coin in the history of crypto-evolution.

if it fails it will be interesting and long discussed why. Until that time I happily take the risk, as I did from the very beginning of the project.
sr. member
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January 28, 2015, 05:57:11 AM
I like to make charts, and there are two big crossovers coming up in the next few months.

First we have the '7' crossover at the end of March. This is where the total supply of XMR goes above 7 million, while the monthly increase rate (as percent of supply) drops below 7 percent for the first time.

Second, and much more importantly, we have the '50' crossover coming up in September. This is where the XMR supply reaches 50 percent of 18.4 million, while the annual increase rate (as percent of supply) drops below 50 percent.

Happy hunting.  Smiley
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January 27, 2015, 09:02:27 PM
Looks like an inverse head and shoulders pattern is forming on the 12 hour chart starting around January 10th with the neckline breakout at about 0.00133. Order books are very thin on the sell side, less than 10 btc to break through.
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