Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 313. (Read 3314316 times)
We are within $5 of Zcash's price. I might be wrong, but I don't think we have ever matched or exceeded Zcash since its launch. Should we do so, that is some cause for celebration in this otherwise gloomy state of affairs.
So much hate towards Monero. I wonder why is that? hardly a day passes by without you being FUDed, trolled or threatened with an attack.
Welcome to this thing known as the internet.
I speculate that the price will only start moving in 3 weeks time when the date of the XMV fork nears.
Price moves every day. Today moved up by astronomic 7% People would die for such profits per month. But here you can have them in just a day.
On the other hand price is same as at beginning of December. So did not moved a tiny bit in last 4 months.
And in the final point 1 XMR = 1 XMR Was a year ago, today and will be a year from now.
I speculate that the price will only start moving in 3 weeks time when the date of the XMV fork nears.
The Mayer Multiple (spot / 200 day MA) for XMR / USD is 0.8158, the lowest it's been since January 2016. It's been higher than this 100% of the time since network effects first established themselves and we started our long term climb against the dollar. This is either very cheap monero, or the beginning of a painful break of the long-term trend. Given the fundamentals, I'm accumulating.
So are we moving again? I woke up to no fud posts and the price rising. 
closed my long right before the slight retrace.
Anyone got any info to drop? Should I spend my last btc now or wait for another bear week?
Way back when we were guessing $777 I thought there would be bear till mid Feb and March would be bull but I lagged that severely (CME had a much more pronounced effect than any of us imagined) so I'm expecting the real bull here soon. If those fucking Futures scumbags hadn't got involved then this shit would not had gotten so tough to predict.
closed my long right before the slight retrace.Anyone got any info to drop? Should I spend my last btc now or wait for another bear week?
Way back when we were guessing $777 I thought there would be bear till mid Feb and March would be bull but I lagged that severely (CME had a much more pronounced effect than any of us imagined) so I'm expecting the real bull here soon. If those fucking Futures scumbags hadn't got involved then this shit would not had gotten so tough to predict.
Response to "An Empirical Analysis of Traceability in the Monero Blockchain", Version 2
https://getmonero.org/2018/03/29/response-to-an-empirical-analysis-of-traceability.html
https://getmonero.org/2018/03/29/response-to-an-empirical-analysis-of-traceability.html
If I read correctly - does this mean that before RingCT was introduced in Jan 2017, all transactions on Monero's blockchain are completely traceable?
I.e. ring signatures did not work to hide the transaction amounts or sender.
No. Please take a concerted effort to read both responses:
https://getmonero.org/2018/03/29/response-to-an-empirical-analysis-of-traceability.html
https://getmonero.org/2017/04/19/an-unofficial-response-to-an-empirical-analysis-of-linkability.html
Basically the portion that was traceable was transactions where the decoy inputs were deducible, i.e., the decoy inputs were provably spent and thus were impracticable decoy inputs. As a result, you could easily single out the real input.
So much hate towards Monero. I wonder why is that? hardly a day passes by without you being FUDed, trolled or threatened with an attack.
Viel Feind Viel Ehr !
go translate it if the Germanics are not your thing. Pretty much the essence of where we are at IMHO.
Response to "An Empirical Analysis of Traceability in the Monero Blockchain", Version 2
https://getmonero.org/2018/03/29/response-to-an-empirical-analysis-of-traceability.html
https://getmonero.org/2018/03/29/response-to-an-empirical-analysis-of-traceability.html
If I read correctly - does this mean that before RingCT was introduced in Jan 2017, all transactions on Monero's blockchain are completely traceable?
I.e. ring signatures did not work to hide the transaction amounts or sender.
No, you should reread it. Some may be and most of them would be pool payments but nice soft fud attempt.
So much hate towards Monero. I wonder why is that? hardly a day passes by without you being FUDed, trolled or threatened with an attack.
They really think they can keep the price down to accumulate that way.
So much hate towards Monero. I wonder why is that? hardly a day passes by without you being FUDed, trolled or threatened with an attack.
StealthPay gives you the possibility buy Monero with cash if you are registered on Bittrex.
Here are the steps to go:
1) Get a XST address on Bittrex.
2) Buy StealthCoin with cash transfer here: http://www.stealthpay.com/buyxst (Western Union, MoneyGram, Contact, Unistream, Ria Money Transfer, Leader, Sigue Money Transfer, Intel Express)
3) Exchange XST (StealthCoin) to BTC on Bittrex.
4) Buy Monero with BTC.
No limits. Enjoy.
www.stealthpay.com
Here are the steps to go:
1) Get a XST address on Bittrex.
2) Buy StealthCoin with cash transfer here: http://www.stealthpay.com/buyxst (Western Union, MoneyGram, Contact, Unistream, Ria Money Transfer, Leader, Sigue Money Transfer, Intel Express)
3) Exchange XST (StealthCoin) to BTC on Bittrex.
4) Buy Monero with BTC.
No limits. Enjoy.
www.stealthpay.com
StealthPay gives you the possibility buy Monero with cash if you are registered on Bittrex.
Here are the steps to go:
1) Get a XST address on Bittrex.
2) Buy StealthCoin with cash transfer here: http://www.stealthpay.com/buyxst (Western Union, MoneyGram, Contact, Unistream, Ria Money Transfer, Leader, Sigue Money Transfer, Intel Express)
3) Exchange XST (StealthCoin) to BTC on Bittrex.
4) Buy Monero with BTC.
No limits. Enjoy.
www.stealthpay.com
Here are the steps to go:
1) Get a XST address on Bittrex.
2) Buy StealthCoin with cash transfer here: http://www.stealthpay.com/buyxst (Western Union, MoneyGram, Contact, Unistream, Ria Money Transfer, Leader, Sigue Money Transfer, Intel Express)
3) Exchange XST (StealthCoin) to BTC on Bittrex.
4) Buy Monero with BTC.
No limits. Enjoy.
www.stealthpay.com
Wow. If someone can confirm that this works please do! I'll totally forgive this guy plugging his coin here if this actually works.
I'm curious how everyone views BTC, XMR, etc. correlating with the global economy... For some reason it seems to be following the DOW at least. To me it seems to make sense... the more people are feeling confident in the economy, people tend to be willing to throw their money around and into investments, and therefore cryptos.
Right now bitcoin is thought of as just another tech stock. It probably would be more closely correlated with the NASDAQ than the DOW.
I'm curious how everyone views BTC, XMR, etc. correlating with the global economy... For some reason it seems to be following the DOW at least. To me it seems to make sense... the more people are feeling confident in the economy, people tend to be willing to throw their money around and into investments, and therefore cryptos.
StealthPay gives you the possibility buy Monero with cash if you are registered on Bittrex.
Here are the steps to go:
1) Get a XST address on Bittrex.
2) Buy StealthCoin with cash transfer here: http://www.stealthpay.com/buyxst (Western Union, MoneyGram, Contact, Unistream, Ria Money Transfer, Leader, Sigue Money Transfer, Intel Express)
3) Exchange XST (StealthCoin) to BTC on Bittrex.
4) Buy Monero with BTC.
No limits. Enjoy.
www.stealthpay.com
Here are the steps to go:
1) Get a XST address on Bittrex.
2) Buy StealthCoin with cash transfer here: http://www.stealthpay.com/buyxst (Western Union, MoneyGram, Contact, Unistream, Ria Money Transfer, Leader, Sigue Money Transfer, Intel Express)
3) Exchange XST (StealthCoin) to BTC on Bittrex.
4) Buy Monero with BTC.
No limits. Enjoy.
www.stealthpay.com
Hooray!!! Coins for sale!
(in USD that is...)
(in USD that is...)
Damn blood in the streets tonight. Shit, sorry I even looked.
I know. It's damn painful. I wish I was good at trading. Fortunes to be made here. But I can only sit and watch my little pile shrink away.
I mean, idk if it's that people are "good at trading". I think the big secret is that trading isn't hard. Like as far as in an intelligence test sort of way. Someone with an IQ of 90 can probably identify a trend and see when people are getting overly greedy at the top and when people are being overly dramatic at the bottom. And that's all you really have to be able to do from a technical standpoint.
You don't need to be able to nail the bottom or the top. Say you bought your bitcoin at 1000 and sold at 10,000. It doesn't matter that it later went to 20,000. The fact that you didn't hold out for 20,000 is no condemnation. You made 10 times your money. That's really damn good! Then say you buy back in at 5000 and it goes to 2,000. It doesn't matter that it later went to 2,000. You just doubled your bitcoins! That's really damn good. And how hard would have been to hit those targets in that scenario? Would that fellow have been a genius? I think not. A genius would have threaded the needed on the top and bottom or something. Look at how much room our guy had to find success with out being the sort of genius necessary to hit the tops and bottoms perfectly.
I think it's just our emotions that screw us over. How ridiculous is it to judge ourselves based on the fact that if we were omniscient beings we could have made more money than we did. But that's what almost everyone does! At some level our strategies tend to be informed by that mindset. I'm not the first one to point this out, but perfect is the enemy of good. I think all anyone with an IQ above 90 has to to do to be successful is learn how to "turn off" their emotions. Like all of them. Go full psychopath when you log onto an exchange. If you feel like you are feeling any feelings at all, stop, logoff, and figure out how to get them under control before you log back on. And when you make money, any amount of money, feel good about yourself, you deserve it. Don't hold yourself to some sort of self destructive standard and expectation. I think that when you let go of that mindset you may find the sort of success that you were actually looking for when you had that mindset, or at least much closer to it than you would have had with it.
Well anyway. ./rantoff
Yeah. This is exactly what I mean. For example:
I know now is a pretty damn good time to buy.
I am pretty sure now is not the very BEST time either... I think we have yet to see that in this particular cycle.
But if I were to add to my position now I would benefit.
My problem are the emotions. I will second guess myself and wring my hands over a trade and ultimately make a bad decision because of it.
For me the best route is to analyze the longer trend, take a position and stick to it. Less trading. More holding.
Yea there is some sort of quote out there about how if you are trading often than you are doing it wrong. Humans can not compete with machines on the micro scale. You will just get your ass handed to you by AI. But AI can't see the bigger picture in the way that humans can. So we still have a niche. For now...
That was a brutal monero dump. At this point in the market, Hodling becomes the best option. The price would only increase when the market returns to the moon days. Keep holding your coins people!
Hooray!!! Coins for sale!
(in USD that is...)
(in USD that is...)
Damn blood in the streets tonight. Shit, sorry I even looked.
I know. It's damn painful. I wish I was good at trading. Fortunes to be made here. But I can only sit and watch my little pile shrink away.
You mean watching Monero crash from ~5.00 USD to below ~0.30 USD back in 2014, Yes it was painful. The main difference I see today is that the fundamentals are a lot stronger in 2018 than they were back in 2014.
I remember that time as well.. Also painful. And I agree. The fundamentals of Monero are much stronger now.
And Monero continues to be an asymmetrical bet in the favor of the long position.
Hooray!!! Coins for sale!
(in USD that is...)
(in USD that is...)
Damn blood in the streets tonight. Shit, sorry I even looked.
I know. It's damn painful. I wish I was good at trading. Fortunes to be made here. But I can only sit and watch my little pile shrink away.
I mean, idk if it's that people are "good at trading". I think the big secret is that trading isn't hard. Like as far as in an intelligence test sort of way. Someone with an IQ of 90 can probably identify a trend and see when people are getting overly greedy at the top and when people are being overly dramatic at the bottom. And that's all you really have to be able to do from a technical standpoint.
You don't need to be able to nail the bottom or the top. Say you bought your bitcoin at 1000 and sold at 10,000. It doesn't matter that it later went to 20,000. The fact that you didn't hold out for 20,000 is no condemnation. You made 10 times your money. That's really damn good! Then say you buy back in at 5000 and it goes to 2,000. It doesn't matter that it later went to 2,000. You just doubled your bitcoins! That's really damn good. And how hard would have been to hit those targets in that scenario? Would that fellow have been a genius? I think not. A genius would have threaded the needed on the top and bottom or something. Look at how much room our guy had to find success with out being the sort of genius necessary to hit the tops and bottoms perfectly.
I think it's just our emotions that screw us over. How ridiculous is it to judge ourselves based on the fact that if we were omniscient beings we could have made more money than we did. But that's what almost everyone does! At some level our strategies tend to be informed by that mindset. I'm not the first one to point this out, but perfect is the enemy of good. I think all anyone with an IQ above 90 has to to do to be successful is learn how to "turn off" their emotions. Like all of them. Go full psychopath when you log onto an exchange. If you feel like you are feeling any feelings at all, stop, logoff, and figure out how to get them under control before you log back on. And when you make money, any amount of money, feel good about yourself, you deserve it. Don't hold yourself to some sort of self destructive standard and expectation. I think that when you let go of that mindset you may find the sort of success that you were actually looking for when you had that mindset, or at least much closer to it than you would have had with it.
Well anyway. ./rantoff
Yeah. This is exactly what I mean. For example:
I know now is a pretty damn good time to buy.
I am pretty sure now is not the very BEST time either... I think we have yet to see that in this particular cycle.
But if I were to add to my position now I would benefit.
My problem are the emotions. I will second guess myself and wring my hands over a trade and ultimately make a bad decision because of it.
For me the best route is to analyze the longer trend, take a position and stick to it. Less trading. More holding.
chart painting ...
Buddy let me post your original chart:
End of March price of Monero by your supreme price prediction skills should be hmmm ... Somewhere between $20 and $50. It seems back then you couldn't see that far in future.
How come you could failed it by that much? That is like x5 fail. Same as if you would predict price right now to be $850. What was the main reason? I believe there are probably many but please post the main ones on your opinion.
Charts are indicative of price and structure, not time.
The projection can occur sooner or later.
Either way, XMR is poised to hit sub-$50 later this year.
Hooray!!! Coins for sale!
(in USD that is...)
(in USD that is...)
Damn blood in the streets tonight. Shit, sorry I even looked.
I know. It's damn painful. I wish I was good at trading. Fortunes to be made here. But I can only sit and watch my little pile shrink away.
You mean watching Monero crash from ~5.00 USD to below ~0.30 USD back in 2014, Yes it was painful. The main difference I see today is that the fundamentals are a lot stronger in 2018 than they were back in 2014.
That was a bear market. This is a breather
Fundamentals are incredible, emission is turning off. I hope to get my emotions turned off before take off, and while I still have some moneroj 
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