[XMR] Monero Speculation - page 472.

mnemonicsoup

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Quote from: pao_de_lo on November 22, 2017, 07:05:07 AM

Quote from: TheFuzzStone on November 22, 2017, 05:41:55 AM

Quote from: explorer on November 22, 2017, 05:38:50 AM

Over $155

Youa're right, this is a Monero speculation thread

1738 of off-topic messages. Why do not you talk about Bytecoin, which is a currency far superior to Monero.
Or AEON which is also far superior to Monero.

Why is AEON cheaper than Monero? This is out of reality.
Monero should cost $ 2.34.

LOL, a legendary user with zero clue.

To answer your questions, Bytecoin is a known scam: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/blowing-the-lid-off-the-cryptonotebytecoin-scam-with-the-exception-of-monero-740112

I do like Aeon, it's Monero's little brother but it's far from "far superior". Once Aeon has the rebase, it will be much better:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeon/comments/7akef4/rebasing_and_what_it_means_for_aeon/

XMR2020

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Quote from: rangedriver on November 22, 2017, 05:55:17 AM

Quote from: kurious on November 22, 2017, 05:43:01 AM

Quote from: rangedriver on November 22, 2017, 05:34:43 AM

Quote from: aminorex on November 22, 2017, 05:09:52 AM

I cannot understand why dash has any traction. Can someone ELI5 for me? It makes me concerned that I may be fundamentally misunderstanding, well, everything.

Dash has been successful in only one sense: Understanding that what the masses actually want is horseshit wrapped in a logo. The argument could just as easily be applied to many manifestations of mainstream culture: McDonalds, iPhone, Coke, Budweiser, Hollywood remakes, Disney, etc.

People generally love shit.

If there is wisdom to be extrapolated it is that Monero needs to be aesthetically as advanced as any other piece of crap out there, and the gift of privacy/fungibility can be injected to an otherwise ignorance audience regardless. Brand and image requires as much attention from the Monero intelligentsia as cryptography, and much like the establishment of the Monero logo (99 designs) it will most likely require pushing to visual design experts.

I say this, because I've been spending the last week or so redesigning the Monero subreddit which I intend to push to the community in the next couple of weeks. To be frank, the current subreddit looks kinda shitty, and it has sparked inspiration in me at least to review Monero's collective capacity to compete with mainstream brands. (It's do-able with the right mindset.)

Your efforts are much appreciated and incredibly worthwhile.

I agree with the thrust of what you say; Monero needs better marketing. That said, it must be in character and distinctive - Monero is special.

For me it's not so much about marketing as it is about branding and visual design. I can kinda do a lot of the marketing myself through word of mouth and other renegade tactics, providing the branding and stylistics are on point.

My golden rule tends to be: "Can I sell this to the girl next door and the Japanese?" If the answer is Yes and Yes.... then I know it's a winner.

"In the short term the market is a popularity contest; in the long term it is a weighing machine." - Warren Buffet

Dash is winning the popularity contest. Ethereum is similar. If cryptocurrencies are speculative ponzis, whichever project can attract the greatest number of greater fools will be the short-term winner.

If cryptocurrencies are the future of sound money and censorship resistant value transfer, then the weighing machine should strongly favor Monero. Either way - Dash dies. It's a guaranteed failure by either criteria. The verdict is out on Bitcoin and Monero.

Globb0

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More wet fart than boom.

Monero is a strong coin far from that original base code.

Yes there are other projects, you seem to have landed on the wrong thread if you want to shill them here.

Meanwhile for all of us the Monero price is pumping nicely, given the ATH of bitcoin is also happening in the background (increasing the dollar value gains) its even nicer.

pao_de_lo

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Quote from: TheFuzzStone on November 22, 2017, 05:41:55 AM

Quote from: explorer on November 22, 2017, 05:38:50 AM

Over $155

Youa're right, this is a Monero speculation thread

1738 of off-topic messages. Why do not you talk about Bytecoin, which is a currency far superior to Monero.
Or AEON which is also far superior to Monero.

Why is AEON cheaper than Monero? This is out of reality.
Monero should cost $ 2.34.

Quote from: ?? on ??

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Globb0

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Quote from: kurious on November 22, 2017, 05:43:01 AM

Quote from: rangedriver on November 22, 2017, 05:34:43 AM

Quote from: aminorex on November 22, 2017, 05:09:52 AM

I cannot understand why dash has any traction. Can someone ELI5 for me? It makes me concerned that I may be fundamentally misunderstanding, well, everything.

Dash has been successful in only one sense: Understanding that what the masses actually want is horseshit wrapped in a logo. The argument could just as easily be applied to many manifestations of mainstream culture: McDonalds, iPhone, Coke, Budweiser, Hollywood remakes, Disney, etc.

People generally love shit.

If there is wisdom to be extrapolated it is that Monero needs to be aesthetically as advanced as any other piece of crap out there, and the gift of privacy/fungibility can be injected to an otherwise ignorance audience regardless. Brand and image requires as much attention from the Monero intelligentsia as cryptography, and much like the establishment of the Monero logo (99 designs) it will most likely require pushing to visual design experts.

I say this, because I've been spending the last week or so redesigning the Monero subreddit which I intend to push to the community in the next couple of weeks. To be frank, the current subreddit looks kinda shitty, and it has sparked inspiration in me at least to review Monero's collective capacity to compete with mainstream brands. (It's do-able with the right mindset.)

Your efforts are much appreciated and incredibly worthwhile.

I agree with the thrust of what you say; Monero needs better marketing. That said, it must be in character and distinctive - Monero is special.

I think also that's a great idea.

Starting with tidying up the crap is a winner.

Sadly this very thread is so often over run with crap itself, that cant look good to genuine new people dropping in for a look.

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Quote from: Febo on November 22, 2017, 06:28:58 AM

Quote from: Billy Bunter on November 20, 2017, 01:55:42 PM

Quote from: Febo on November 20, 2017, 12:20:50 PM

When we see Bitcoin going up and Monero stays pegged to bitcoin is just matter of time when we will see new USD ATH. I know there are more ways to tell ATH. I just use coinmarketcap price from 28th August. showing Monero was $154.58.

So when do you guys think we will pass that?

This week

Lol, seems you were right, but doubt you expected mid week already.

Are we there already? I never quite know which is the "right" price to look at - Kraken versus CoinGecko, for example. Does anyone know which exchange CoinGecko gets its prices from? In any case it's great to see it up there again.

kurious

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ATH, ladies and gents!

cryptimus prime

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XMR reddit was yesterday the top 150 growing reddit of all!
Now we have 400-500 subscribers every day on r/Monero.

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Quote from: Billy Bunter on November 20, 2017, 01:55:42 PM

Quote from: Febo on November 20, 2017, 12:20:50 PM

When we see Bitcoin going up and Monero stays pegged to bitcoin is just matter of time when we will see new USD ATH. I know there are more ways to tell ATH. I just use coinmarketcap price from 28th August. showing Monero was $154.58.

So when do you guys think we will pass that?

This week

Lol, seems you were right, but doubt you expected mid week already.

amaral1977

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Quote from: kurious on November 22, 2017, 06:10:09 AM

Quote from: rangedriver on November 22, 2017, 05:55:17 AM

Quote from: kurious on November 22, 2017, 05:43:01 AM

Quote from: rangedriver on November 22, 2017, 05:34:43 AM

Quote from: aminorex on November 22, 2017, 05:09:52 AM

I cannot understand why dash has any traction. Can someone ELI5 for me? It makes me concerned that I may be fundamentally misunderstanding, well, everything.

Dash has been successful in only one sense: Understanding that what the masses actually want is horseshit wrapped in a logo. The argument could just as easily be applied to many manifestations of mainstream culture: McDonalds, iPhone, Coke, Budweiser, Hollywood remakes, Disney, etc.

People generally love shit.

If there is wisdom to be extrapolated it is that Monero needs to be aesthetically as advanced as any other piece of crap out there, and the gift of privacy/fungibility can be injected to an otherwise ignorance audience regardless. Brand and image requires as much attention from the Monero intelligentsia as cryptography, and much like the establishment of the Monero logo (99 designs) it will most likely require pushing to visual design experts.

I say this, because I've been spending the last week or so redesigning the Monero subreddit which I intend to push to the community in the next couple of weeks. To be frank, the current subreddit looks kinda shitty, and it has sparked inspiration in me at least to review Monero's collective capacity to compete with mainstream brands. (It's do-able with the right mindset.)

Your efforts are much appreciated and incredibly worthwhile.

I agree with the thrust of what you say; Monero needs better marketing. That said, it must be in character and distinctive - Monero is special.

For me it's not so much about marketing as it is about branding and visual design. I can kinda do a lot of the marketing myself through word of mouth and other renegade tactics, providing the branding and stylistics are on point.

My golden rule tends to be: "Can I sell this to the girl next door and the Japanese?" If the answer is Yes and Yes.... then I know it's a winner.

You sound like the right person for the job!

Arguably Monero sells itself, but with so much crypto noise out there, it is right we must look good, too. Crucial, even.

There are few going around, saying they love Monero's coding (even if that is what we rely upon) - so you are quite right that looks will help us spread the word - anything you can do that makes a smidgen of difference will help.

Whenever people (normal ones:)) praise BTC i tend to agree with them stating that is veru very good and right after talk about the better BTC, Monero. so that new money when gets in through BTC passes along to monero trying to bypass all that crypto noise you were talking about.

kurious

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Quote from: rangedriver on November 22, 2017, 05:55:17 AM

Quote from: kurious on November 22, 2017, 05:43:01 AM

Quote from: rangedriver on November 22, 2017, 05:34:43 AM

Quote from: aminorex on November 22, 2017, 05:09:52 AM

I cannot understand why dash has any traction. Can someone ELI5 for me? It makes me concerned that I may be fundamentally misunderstanding, well, everything.

Dash has been successful in only one sense: Understanding that what the masses actually want is horseshit wrapped in a logo. The argument could just as easily be applied to many manifestations of mainstream culture: McDonalds, iPhone, Coke, Budweiser, Hollywood remakes, Disney, etc.

People generally love shit.

If there is wisdom to be extrapolated it is that Monero needs to be aesthetically as advanced as any other piece of crap out there, and the gift of privacy/fungibility can be injected to an otherwise ignorance audience regardless. Brand and image requires as much attention from the Monero intelligentsia as cryptography, and much like the establishment of the Monero logo (99 designs) it will most likely require pushing to visual design experts.

I say this, because I've been spending the last week or so redesigning the Monero subreddit which I intend to push to the community in the next couple of weeks. To be frank, the current subreddit looks kinda shitty, and it has sparked inspiration in me at least to review Monero's collective capacity to compete with mainstream brands. (It's do-able with the right mindset.)

Your efforts are much appreciated and incredibly worthwhile.

I agree with the thrust of what you say; Monero needs better marketing. That said, it must be in character and distinctive - Monero is special.

For me it's not so much about marketing as it is about branding and visual design. I can kinda do a lot of the marketing myself through word of mouth and other renegade tactics, providing the branding and stylistics are on point.

My golden rule tends to be: "Can I sell this to the girl next door and the Japanese?" If the answer is Yes and Yes.... then I know it's a winner.

You sound like the right person for the job!

Arguably Monero sells itself, but with so much crypto noise out there, it is right we must look good, too. Crucial, even.

There are few going around, saying they love Monero's coding (even if that is what we rely upon) - so you are quite right that looks will help us spread the word - anything you can do that makes a smidgen of difference will help.

rangedriver

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Quote from: kurious on November 22, 2017, 05:43:01 AM

Quote from: rangedriver on November 22, 2017, 05:34:43 AM

Quote from: aminorex on November 22, 2017, 05:09:52 AM

I cannot understand why dash has any traction. Can someone ELI5 for me? It makes me concerned that I may be fundamentally misunderstanding, well, everything.

Dash has been successful in only one sense: Understanding that what the masses actually want is horseshit wrapped in a logo. The argument could just as easily be applied to many manifestations of mainstream culture: McDonalds, iPhone, Coke, Budweiser, Hollywood remakes, Disney, etc.

People generally love shit.

If there is wisdom to be extrapolated it is that Monero needs to be aesthetically as advanced as any other piece of crap out there, and the gift of privacy/fungibility can be injected to an otherwise ignorance audience regardless. Brand and image requires as much attention from the Monero intelligentsia as cryptography, and much like the establishment of the Monero logo (99 designs) it will most likely require pushing to visual design experts.

I say this, because I've been spending the last week or so redesigning the Monero subreddit which I intend to push to the community in the next couple of weeks. To be frank, the current subreddit looks kinda shitty, and it has sparked inspiration in me at least to review Monero's collective capacity to compete with mainstream brands. (It's do-able with the right mindset.)

Your efforts are much appreciated and incredibly worthwhile.

I agree with the thrust of what you say; Monero needs better marketing. That said, it must be in character and distinctive - Monero is special.

For me it's not so much about marketing as it is about branding and visual design. I can kinda do a lot of the marketing myself through word of mouth and other renegade tactics, providing the branding and stylistics are on point.

My golden rule tends to be: "Can I sell this to the girl next door and the Japanese?" If the answer is Yes and Yes.... then I know it's a winner.

Anon136

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Quote from: CTTE on November 21, 2017, 10:24:50 PM

Quote from: Anon136 on November 21, 2017, 06:43:20 PM

You never have to worry about monero being over valued so long as it is valued at less than dark coin Roll Eyes

Agreed, that never seems to be the problem, in my eyes at least, Monero seems to be perpetually under priced!

I posit that we call this "the dash indicator". If we pass it than no one will blame you for taking some profit but so long as we are under it you can feel safe that this market has further yet to run so just HODL.

Quote from: aminorex on November 22, 2017, 05:09:52 AM

I cannot understand why dash has any traction. Can someone ELI5 for me? It makes me concerned that I may be fundamentally misunderstanding, well, everything.

I have a theory. They gain massive advantages from their centralized master node system. The exact same advantages that traditional banking has over crypto currencies. Scalability and a sort of privacy (you cant look at my bank activity). While at the same time claiming the clout that comes from being a decentralized crypto currency (even though they are more like traditional banking in reality). In a sense they have figured out how to have their cake and eat it too.

Also what rangedriver said too.

kurious

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Quote from: rangedriver on November 22, 2017, 05:34:43 AM

Quote from: aminorex on November 22, 2017, 05:09:52 AM

I cannot understand why dash has any traction. Can someone ELI5 for me? It makes me concerned that I may be fundamentally misunderstanding, well, everything.

Dash has been successful in only one sense: Understanding that what the masses actually want is horseshit wrapped in a logo. The argument could just as easily be applied to many manifestations of mainstream culture: McDonalds, iPhone, Coke, Budweiser, Hollywood remakes, Disney, etc.

People generally love shit.

If there is wisdom to be extrapolated it is that Monero needs to be aesthetically as advanced as any other piece of crap out there, and the gift of privacy/fungibility can be injected to an otherwise ignorance audience regardless. Brand and image requires as much attention from the Monero intelligentsia as cryptography, and much like the establishment of the Monero logo (99 designs) it will most likely require pushing to visual design experts.

I say this, because I've been spending the last week or so redesigning the Monero subreddit which I intend to push to the community in the next couple of weeks. To be frank, the current subreddit looks kinda shitty, and it has sparked inspiration in me at least to review Monero's collective capacity to compete with mainstream brands. (It's do-able with the right mindset.)

Your efforts are much appreciated and incredibly worthwhile.

I agree with the thrust of what you say; Monero needs better marketing. That said, it must be in character and distinctive - Monero is special.

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Quote from: explorer on November 22, 2017, 05:38:50 AM

Over $155

Youa're right, this is a Monero speculation thread

explorer

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Over $155 & CAD 200. Time to light off the next stage of rockets?

kurious

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I think many here see the ultimate deceit, but without a real use case, a lot of coins will not survive when the chickens come home to roost.

Dash, if / when it falls, will fall hard.

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Quote from: aminorex on November 22, 2017, 05:09:52 AM

I cannot understand why dash has any traction

Marketing, marketing and marketing + "buy Dash, Dash is the best, Dash... Dash.. ~~fuck~~ Dash"

Quote from: rangedriver on November 22, 2017, 05:34:43 AM

horseshit wrapped in a logo

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Quote from: aminorex on November 22, 2017, 05:09:52 AM

I cannot understand why dash has any traction. Can someone ELI5 for me? It makes me concerned that I may be fundamentally misunderstanding, well, everything.

Dash has been successful in only one sense: Understanding that what the masses actually want is horseshit wrapped in a logo. The argument could just as easily be applied to many manifestations of mainstream culture: McDonalds, iPhone, Coke, Budweiser, Hollywood remakes, Disney, etc.

People generally love shit.

If there is wisdom to be extrapolated it is that Monero needs to be aesthetically as advanced as any other piece of crap out there, and the gift of privacy/fungibility can be injected to an otherwise ignorance audience regardless. Brand and image requires as much attention from the Monero intelligentsia as cryptography, and much like the establishment of the Monero logo (99 designs) it will most likely require pushing to visual design experts.

I say this, because I've been spending the last week or so redesigning the Monero subreddit which I intend to push to the community in the next couple of weeks. To be frank, the current subreddit looks kinda shitty, and it has sparked inspiration in me at least to review Monero's collective capacity to compete with mainstream brands. (It's do-able with the right mindset.)

kurious

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Quote from: aminorex on November 22, 2017, 05:09:52 AM

I cannot understand why dash has any traction. Can someone ELI5 for me? It makes me concerned that I may be fundamentally misunderstanding, well, everything.

I can't . I have to reach for the restriction of supply by the self-interested Masternode Cabal, and the money coming into the centre being spent rather effectively on marketing (and pumping up the price) as an explanation. One feels that ultimately the Emperor must be seen to be naked, but it's been holding together so far, there are still no cracks appearing in the edifice.

It's not for purists or savants, perhaps - but this market is not filled with purists, it's becoming filled with sheep looking for shiny things to follow that never stop increasing in value, irrespective of their true qualities.

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