Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 507. (Read 3314316 times)
Hmm i remember it was always around rank.5- Does anyone who monitor coingecko rankings more closely tells what was the main reasons Monero went ahead of Ripple and Litecoin.
I went check this for a reddit post when someone complained how bad Monero preformed in last 2 months. It is logical it did since bithumb listing was exactly 2 months ago. SO i took last 3 months and top20 coins that exist at least 3 months and got this.
OMG 1.22 7.22 +492%
NEO 7.3 28.2 +286%
BCC 62 224 +261%
LISK 1.83 4.74 +159%
BTC 2695 6045 +124%
XMR 41 89 +117%
XLM 0.016 0.03 +88%
QTUM 5.63 10.31 +83%
DASH 178 274 +54%
ETH 202 306 +51%
IOTA 0.26 0.39 +50%
LTC 40 57 +43%
ZEC 184 238 +29%
BHC 355 455 +28%
NEM 0.16 0.2 +25%
WAVES 2.8 3.47 +24%
XRP 0.17 0.2 +18%
STRAT 4.92 4.21 -14%
ETC 14 11 -21%
EOS 1.78 0.66 -63%
You see Monero is closest to Bitcoin. And in top 30%. Luckily for us we did not hold EOS.
Just for fun I heard NASDAQ index is doing well lately 6348 6699 +5.5%. Better then 3 red coins it is.
OMG 1.22 7.22 +492%
NEO 7.3 28.2 +286%
BCC 62 224 +261%
LISK 1.83 4.74 +159%
BTC 2695 6045 +124%
XMR 41 89 +117%
XLM 0.016 0.03 +88%
QTUM 5.63 10.31 +83%
DASH 178 274 +54%
ETH 202 306 +51%
IOTA 0.26 0.39 +50%
LTC 40 57 +43%
ZEC 184 238 +29%
BHC 355 455 +28%
NEM 0.16 0.2 +25%
WAVES 2.8 3.47 +24%
XRP 0.17 0.2 +18%
STRAT 4.92 4.21 -14%
ETC 14 11 -21%
EOS 1.78 0.66 -63%
You see Monero is closest to Bitcoin. And in top 30%. Luckily for us we did not hold EOS.
Just for fun I heard NASDAQ index is doing well lately 6348 6699 +5.5%. Better then 3 red coins it is.
Good job Febo! Well done!
It seems to be easy, I wonder that idea of this comparision didn't come to my mind ;>
But maybe your conclusions should be that we have to sell XMR as overpriced asset ;>
Speaking not quite serious.. I had a dream few nights ago that Monero price had risen significantly above $ 100..
It's so strange because XMR have no first place in my altfolio that it was monero in my dream indeed..
Could we expect such a rise in near future in real world?
Monero #3 
https://www.coingecko.com/en
https://www.coingecko.com/en
I went check this for a reddit post when someone complained how bad Monero preformed in last 2 months. It is logical it did since bithumb listing was exactly 2 months ago. SO i took last 3 months and top20 coins that exist at least 3 months and got this.
OMG 1.22 7.22 +492%
NEO 7.3 28.2 +286%
BCC 62 224 +261%
LISK 1.83 4.74 +159%
BTC 2695 6045 +124%
XMR 41 89 +117%
XLM 0.016 0.03 +88%
QTUM 5.63 10.31 +83%
DASH 178 274 +54%
ETH 202 306 +51%
IOTA 0.26 0.39 +50%
LTC 40 57 +43%
ZEC 184 238 +29%
BHC 355 455 +28%
NEM 0.16 0.2 +25%
WAVES 2.8 3.47 +24%
XRP 0.17 0.2 +18%
STRAT 4.92 4.21 -14%
ETC 14 11 -21%
EOS 1.78 0.66 -63%
You see Monero is closest to Bitcoin. And in top 30%. Luckily for us we did not hold EOS.
Just for fun I heard NASDAQ index is doing well lately 6348 6699 +5.5%. Better then 3 red coins it is.
OMG 1.22 7.22 +492%
NEO 7.3 28.2 +286%
BCC 62 224 +261%
LISK 1.83 4.74 +159%
BTC 2695 6045 +124%
XMR 41 89 +117%
XLM 0.016 0.03 +88%
QTUM 5.63 10.31 +83%
DASH 178 274 +54%
ETH 202 306 +51%
IOTA 0.26 0.39 +50%
LTC 40 57 +43%
ZEC 184 238 +29%
BHC 355 455 +28%
NEM 0.16 0.2 +25%
WAVES 2.8 3.47 +24%
XRP 0.17 0.2 +18%
STRAT 4.92 4.21 -14%
ETC 14 11 -21%
EOS 1.78 0.66 -63%
You see Monero is closest to Bitcoin. And in top 30%. Luckily for us we did not hold EOS.
Just for fun I heard NASDAQ index is doing well lately 6348 6699 +5.5%. Better then 3 red coins it is.
Just ask yourself why JP Morgan is implementing their solution and not Monero's solution in their blockchain ledger
Maybe this is an answer?https://twitter.com/zooko/status/863202798883577856?lang=en
So is he saying that Zcash is traceable or it can be made traceable?
If you get how the zerocoin protocol works you will see how easy it is to have privacy. It's possible to keep all your coins untraceable on pivx, by keeping them on the zpiv form, however you can't stake this way.
And once they come from the zpiv accumlator, what can you say about the origin or destination of those pivx? nothing.
.And this statement just proves that they are not Fungable and can never be.
/answering shill mode off
I feel like the goal of trying to cast the widest net for
Just ask yourself why JP Morgan is implementing their solution and not Monero's solution in their blockchain ledger
Maybe this is an answer?
https://twitter.com/zooko/status/863202798883577856?lang=en
I really like the later posts.
If you get how the zerocoin protocol works you will see how easy it is to have privacy. It's possible to keep all your coins untraceable on pivx, by keeping them on the zpiv form, however you can't stake this way.
And once they come from the zpiv accumlator, what can you say about the origin or destination of those pivx? nothing.
.And this statement just proves that they are not Fungable and can never be.
/answering shill mode off
Monero is alright but can someone explain me what chance it stands against Zcash? I think Zcash has already proved that they use by far the most superior cryptography. And if you don't believe me, you don't have to. Just ask yourself why JP Morgan is implementing their solution and not Monero's solution in their blockchain ledger, or why Ethereum is implementing the Zcash technology and not the Monero technology? I have nothing against Monero but it looks to me like everything is against that coin, what are the chances of success when developers come up with real innovations. That is already a good proof that is reflected in the price of the currency, Zcash is far more valuable than Monero, so the market has spoken regarding that topic. Monero has to implement some real alternative to even come close to compete with Zcash. I wish the team best of lack, we need competition in the space because it pushes us to improve our service and products, I hope it does the same for Monero.
You are totally mistaken to believe that Zcash is "far more valuable" than Monero. As of now Monero has more than double the market cap - comparing unit prices is meaningless...
The problem with zcash is that the total coin supply can't be audited... Who knows what can happen. For example pivx started to use the zerocoin protocol 2 weeks ago to replace masternode mixing.
Then when I compare the fees between monero and pivx to make an untraceable tx, I just
You mean they charge you for tainting a normal pivx tx?
yes and no, charge is that the fees is spend on the blockchain and become void, reducing the total coin supply. it actually cost 0.01 pivx per dominations (5000zpiv or 1zpiv cost the same).
tainting, what do you mean? that they become like xmr, zcash and co untraceable? Why does it taint them? it's just like buying something with notes and getting your change back.
The coins aren't "tainted" they become untraceable and fungible.
Fungibility works when all coins are untraceable, if you have coins that are traceable and ones that aren't, they are different and can be identified as such. All the coins need to be untraceable.
If you get how the zerocoin protocol works you will see how easy it is to have privacy. It's possible to keep all your coins untraceable on pivx, by keeping them on the zpiv form, however you can't stake this way.
And once they come from the zpiv accumlator, what can you say about the origin or destination of those pivx? nothing.
.You don't understand what I'm saying--also, this is a Monero speculation thread, so please stop shilling. Start a new topic if you want to start a technical conversation, this is not the place for that.
Monero is alright but can someone explain me what chance it stands against Zcash? I think Zcash has already proved that they use by far the most superior cryptography. And if you don't believe me, you don't have to. Just ask yourself why JP Morgan is implementing their solution and not Monero's solution in their blockchain ledger, or why Ethereum is implementing the Zcash technology and not the Monero technology? I have nothing against Monero but it looks to me like everything is against that coin, what are the chances of success when developers come up with real innovations. That is already a good proof that is reflected in the price of the currency, Zcash is far more valuable than Monero, so the market has spoken regarding that topic. Monero has to implement some real alternative to even come close to compete with Zcash. I wish the team best of lack, we need competition in the space because it pushes us to improve our service and products, I hope it does the same for Monero.
You are totally mistaken to believe that Zcash is "far more valuable" than Monero. As of now Monero has more than double the market cap - comparing unit prices is meaningless...
The problem with zcash is that the total coin supply can't be audited... Who knows what can happen. For example pivx started to use the zerocoin protocol 2 weeks ago to replace masternode mixing.
Then when I compare the fees between monero and pivx to make an untraceable tx, I just
You mean they charge you for tainting a normal pivx tx?
yes and no, charge is that the fees is spend on the blockchain and become void, reducing the total coin supply. it actually cost 0.01 pivx per dominations (5000zpiv or 1zpiv cost the same).
tainting, what do you mean? that they become like xmr, zcash and co untraceable? Why does it taint them? it's just like buying something with notes and getting your change back.
The coins aren't "tainted" they become untraceable and fungible.
Fungibility works when all coins are untraceable, if you have coins that are traceable and ones that aren't, they a different and can be identified as such. All the coins need to be untraceable.
If you get how the zerocoin protocol works you will see how easy it is to have privacy. It's possible to keep all your coins untraceable on pivx, by keeping them on the zpiv form, however you can't stake this way.
And once they come from the zpiv accumlator, what can you say about the origin or destination of those pivx? nothing.
. Monero is alright but can someone explain me what chance it stands against Zcash? I think Zcash has already proved that they use by far the most superior cryptography. And if you don't believe me, you don't have to. Just ask yourself why JP Morgan is implementing their solution and not Monero's solution in their blockchain ledger, or why Ethereum is implementing the Zcash technology and not the Monero technology? I have nothing against Monero but it looks to me like everything is against that coin, what are the chances of success when developers come up with real innovations. That is already a good proof that is reflected in the price of the currency, Zcash is far more valuable than Monero, so the market has spoken regarding that topic. Monero has to implement some real alternative to even come close to compete with Zcash. I wish the team best of lack, we need competition in the space because it pushes us to improve our service and products, I hope it does the same for Monero.
You are totally mistaken to believe that Zcash is "far more valuable" than Monero. As of now Monero has more than double the market cap - comparing unit prices is meaningless...
The problem with zcash is that the total coin supply can't be audited... Who knows what can happen. For example pivx started to use the zerocoin protocol 2 weeks ago to replace masternode mixing.
Then when I compare the fees between monero and pivx to make an untraceable tx, I just
You mean they charge you for tainting a normal pivx tx?
yes and no, charge is that the fees is spend on the blockchain and become void, reducing the total coin supply. it actually cost 0.01 pivx per dominations (5000zpiv or 1zpiv cost the same).
tainting, what do you mean? that they become like xmr, zcash and co untraceable? Why does it taint them? it's just like buying something with notes and getting your change back.
The coins aren't "tainted" they become untraceable and fungible.
Fungibility works when all coins are untraceable, if you have coins that are traceable and ones that aren't, they are different and can be identified as such. All the coins need to be untraceable.
Monero is alright but can someone explain me what chance it stands against Zcash? I think Zcash has already proved that they use by far the most superior cryptography. And if you don't believe me, you don't have to. Just ask yourself why JP Morgan is implementing their solution and not Monero's solution in their blockchain ledger, or why Ethereum is implementing the Zcash technology and not the Monero technology? I have nothing against Monero but it looks to me like everything is against that coin, what are the chances of success when developers come up with real innovations. That is already a good proof that is reflected in the price of the currency, Zcash is far more valuable than Monero, so the market has spoken regarding that topic. Monero has to implement some real alternative to even come close to compete with Zcash. I wish the team best of lack, we need competition in the space because it pushes us to improve our service and products, I hope it does the same for Monero.
You are totally mistaken to believe that Zcash is "far more valuable" than Monero. As of now Monero has more than double the market cap - comparing unit prices is meaningless...
The problem with zcash is that the total coin supply can't be audited... Who knows what can happen. For example pivx started to use the zerocoin protocol 2 weeks ago to replace masternode mixing.
Then when I compare the fees between monero and pivx to make an untraceable tx, I just
You mean they charge you for tainting a normal pivx tx?
yes and no, charge is that the fees is spend on the blockchain and become void, reducing the total coin supply. it actually cost 0.01 pivx per dominations (5000zpiv or 1zpiv cost the same).
tainting, what do you mean? that they become like xmr, zcash and co untraceable? Why does it taint them? it's just like buying something with notes and getting your change back.
The coins aren't "tainted" they become untraceable and fungible.
Monero is alright but can someone explain me what chance it stands against Zcash? I think Zcash has already proved that they use by far the most superior cryptography. And if you don't believe me, you don't have to. Just ask yourself why JP Morgan is implementing their solution and not Monero's solution in their blockchain ledger, or why Ethereum is implementing the Zcash technology and not the Monero technology? I have nothing against Monero but it looks to me like everything is against that coin, what are the chances of success when developers come up with real innovations. That is already a good proof that is reflected in the price of the currency, Zcash is far more valuable than Monero, so the market has spoken regarding that topic. Monero has to implement some real alternative to even come close to compete with Zcash. I wish the team best of lack, we need competition in the space because it pushes us to improve our service and products, I hope it does the same for Monero.
You are totally mistaken to believe that Zcash is "far more valuable" than Monero. As of now Monero has more than double the market cap - comparing unit prices is meaningless...
The problem with zcash is that the total coin supply can't be audited... Who knows what can happen. For example pivx started to use the zerocoin protocol 2 weeks ago to replace masternode mixing.
Then when I compare the fees between monero and pivx to make an untraceable tx, I just
You mean they charge you for tainting a normal pivx tx?
Monero is alright but can someone explain me what chance it stands against Zcash? I think Zcash has already proved that they use by far the most superior cryptography. And if you don't believe me, you don't have to. Just ask yourself why JP Morgan is implementing their solution and not Monero's solution in their blockchain ledger, or why Ethereum is implementing the Zcash technology and not the Monero technology? I have nothing against Monero but it looks to me like everything is against that coin, what are the chances of success when developers come up with real innovations. That is already a good proof that is reflected in the price of the currency, Zcash is far more valuable than Monero, so the market has spoken regarding that topic. Monero has to implement some real alternative to even come close to compete with Zcash. I wish the team best of lack, we need competition in the space because it pushes us to improve our service and products, I hope it does the same for Monero.
You are totally mistaken to believe that Zcash is "far more valuable" than Monero. As of now Monero has more than double the market cap - comparing unit prices is meaningless...
The problem with zcash is that the total coin supply can't be audited... Who knows what can happen. For example pivx started to use the zerocoin protocol 2 weeks ago to replace masternode mixing.
Then when I compare the fees between monero and pivx to make an untraceable tx, I just
XMR is holding pretty nice and its stable. I see so much potentials on this coin
Just ask yourself why JP Morgan is implementing their solution and not Monero's solution in their blockchain ledger
Maybe this is an answer?
https://twitter.com/zooko/status/863202798883577856?lang=en
So Zooko admits Zcash isn't private after all - Jeez.
Traceable and private, like a virgin prostitute.
Just ask yourself why JP Morgan is implementing their solution and not Monero's solution in their blockchain ledger
Maybe this is an answer?
https://twitter.com/zooko/status/863202798883577856?lang=en
So Zooko admits Zcash isn't private after all - Jeez.
Just ask yourself why JP Morgan is implementing their solution and not Monero's solution in their blockchain ledger
Maybe this is an answer?
https://twitter.com/zooko/status/863202798883577856?lang=en
So Zooko admits Zcash isn't private after all - Jeez.
Monero is alright but can someone explain me what chance it stands against Zcash? I think Zcash has already proved that they use by far the most superior cryptography. And if you don't believe me, you don't have to. Just ask yourself why JP Morgan is implementing their solution and not Monero's solution in their blockchain ledger, or why Ethereum is implementing the Zcash technology and not the Monero technology? I have nothing against Monero but it looks to me like everything is against that coin, what are the chances of success when developers come up with real innovations. That is already a good proof that is reflected in the price of the currency, Zcash is far more valuable than Monero, so the market has spoken regarding that topic. Monero has to implement some real alternative to even come close to compete with Zcash. I wish the team best of lack, we need competition in the space because it pushes us to improve our service and products, I hope it does the same for Monero.
You are totally mistaken to believe that Zcash is "far more valuable" than Monero. As of now Monero has more than double the market cap - comparing unit prices is meaningless...
Just ask yourself why JP Morgan is implementing their solution and not Monero's solution in their blockchain ledger
Maybe this is an answer?
https://twitter.com/zooko/status/863202798883577856?lang=en
Monero is alright but can someone explain me what chance it stands against Zcash? I think Zcash has already proved that they use by far the most superior cryptography. And if you don't believe me, you don't have to. Just ask yourself why JP Morgan is implementing their solution and not Monero's solution in their blockchain ledger, or why Ethereum is implementing the Zcash technology and not the Monero technology? I have nothing against Monero but it looks to me like everything is against that coin, what are the chances of success when developers come up with real innovations. That is already a good proof that is reflected in the price of the currency, Zcash is far more valuable than Monero, so the market has spoken regarding that topic. Monero has to implement some real alternative to even come close to compete with Zcash. I wish the team best of lack, we need competition in the space because it pushes us to improve our service and products, I hope it does the same for Monero.
You wonder why all are implementing z-cash or the tech of z-cash, well count the bodies z-cash leaves behind
If i where you, i wouldn't even think of touching it
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