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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 665. (Read 3314325 times)

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July 10, 2017, 06:13:36 PM
MAY BE JUST A COVER STORY TO PUT PEOPLE OFF THE SCENT OF A.B. BEING TAKEN DOWN, IN FACT, BY THE ZCASH BACK-DOOR...Huh

It's called 'constructive knowledge', and is used e.g. when the source of probable cause for a search is such as would disclose methods of evidence collection which LEO'S prefer not to disclose in open court.  Sometimes such methods are unlawful.


Such parallel construction methods are antithetical to the Right of Due Process, which requires the accused be able to confront his accusers and examine the legal soundness of their methodology.

In common law, there is no exception for "LEO preference to not disclose in open court."

The powers that be have construed such an exception for their convenience and financial gain (Fed. Judge salary >$200,00k) but in their hearts they know they should be absolutely terrified of the fate that awaits them (and their innocent spouses+children) once the proverbial Saxon is angry.

When BTC and XMR hit $100k/coin, there is going to so much remedial self-help Justice dished out that .gov won't be able to pay its robed whores, revenue extraction specialists, and King's men enough to make their overwhelmingly hazardous job conditions worthwhile.  Cool


Do you think we'll see those prices by the 2020 or 2024 halving?
legendary
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July 10, 2017, 06:13:08 PM
Guys, please be careful for the fake wallets. It's the new version of scamming people. Besides, I'm still mining monero and I'm very glad. I sell 50% of the mined monero and keep the rest.

Are there other ones besides freewallet?

Everything should be considered compromised unless you can prove it is not. For practical purposes checking the hash from a trusted source is "good enough".
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July 10, 2017, 06:07:22 PM
Guys, please be careful for the fake wallets. It's the new version of scamming people. Besides, I'm still mining monero and I'm very glad. I sell 50% of the mined monero and keep the rest.

Are there other ones besides freewallet?
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July 10, 2017, 04:34:20 PM
Guys, please be careful for the fake wallets. It's the new version of scamming people. Besides, I'm still mining monero and I'm very glad. I sell 50% of the mined monero and keep the rest.
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July 10, 2017, 04:34:01 PM
MAY BE JUST A COVER STORY TO PUT PEOPLE OFF THE SCENT OF A.B. BEING TAKEN DOWN, IN FACT, BY THE ZCASH BACK-DOOR...Huh

It's called 'constructive knowledge', and is used e.g. when the source of probable cause for a search is such as would disclose methods of evidence collection which LEO'S prefer not to disclose in open court.  Sometimes such methods are unlawful.


Such parallel construction methods are antithetical to the Right of Due Process, which requires the accused be able to confront his accusers and examine the legal soundness of their methodology.

In common law, there is no exception for "LEO preference to not disclose in open court."

The powers that be have construed such an exception for their convenience and financial gain (Fed. Judge salary >$200,00k) but in their hearts they know they should be absolutely terrified of the fate that awaits them (and their innocent spouses+children) once the proverbial Saxon is angry.

When BTC and XMR hit $100k/coin, there is going to so much remedial self-help Justice dished out that .gov won't be able to pay its robed whores, revenue extraction specialists, and King's men enough to make their overwhelmingly hazardous job conditions worthwhile.  Cool
legendary
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July 10, 2017, 04:13:41 PM
AlphaBay disappearing having any effect on XMR... you guys think?

They are not disappearing.  Whatever the problem they have stated that they are restarting their servers.


So... what's the REAL lowdown here?

Contrary to initial 'optimisim' is AlphaBay really dead now, or still coming back, or likely to be a honeypot now, or gonna be suspected to be honeypot and DEAD anyway, even IF it does attempt to come back 'legitimately'...?

Personally I've never been on it, no interest in shopping for what's sold there at all, but I'm still interested overall in its existence INSOFAR AS IT HELPS MONERO GET A GOOD FOOTHOLD FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD WHO ALSO NEEDS FUNGIBILITY IN OUR FUTURE DIGITAL CRYPTO!!!

Seems like the people replying in the alphabay reddit clear-net sub, to the poster saying it's an exit scam for sure, are being knee-jerk hostile perhaps only because they do not want to believe it's true... "whistling past the graveyard" as it were...?

Or, on the other hand, it also occurred to me that the guy who is SAYING he was able to DOXX the site operator via tracking a bitcoin payment from cold storage address, to his exchange account and real identity, MAY BE JUST A COVER STORY TO PUT PEOPLE OFF THE SCENT OF A.B. BEING TAKEN DOWN, IN FACT, BY THE ZCASH BACK-DOOR...Huh

Hmm... hmm indeed...


You got a link? Navigating Reddit is a real Pita for me. AFA AB coming back, I highly doubt it as from what I've read in the past they have always gone into damage control and posted everything was fine when they were down in the past but just dead silence this time. That feels to me like they are scrambling, I wouldn't doubt they were on that HA server that got nailed.
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July 10, 2017, 03:36:20 PM
MAY BE JUST A COVER STORY TO PUT PEOPLE OFF THE SCENT OF A.B. BEING TAKEN DOWN, IN FACT, BY THE ZCASH BACK-DOOR...Huh

It's called 'constructive knowledge', and is used e.g. when the source of probable cause for a search is such as would disclose methods of evidence collection which LEO'S prefer not to disclose in open court.  Sometimes such methods are unlawful.
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July 10, 2017, 10:25:19 AM
AlphaBay disappearing having any effect on XMR... you guys think?

They are not disappearing.  Whatever the problem they have stated that they are restarting their servers.


So... what's the REAL lowdown here?

Contrary to initial 'optimisim' is AlphaBay really dead now, or still coming back, or likely to be a honeypot now, or gonna be suspected to be honeypot and DEAD anyway, even IF it does attempt to come back 'legitimately'...?

Personally I've never been on it, no interest in shopping for what's sold there at all, but I'm still interested overall in its existence INSOFAR AS IT HELPS MONERO GET A GOOD FOOTHOLD FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD WHO ALSO NEEDS FUNGIBILITY IN OUR FUTURE DIGITAL CRYPTO!!!

Seems like the people replying in the alphabay reddit clear-net sub, to the poster saying it's an exit scam for sure, are being knee-jerk hostile perhaps only because they do not want to believe it's true... "whistling past the graveyard" as it were...?

Or, on the other hand, it also occurred to me that the guy who is SAYING he was able to DOXX the site operator via tracking a bitcoin payment from cold storage address, to his exchange account and real identity, MAY BE JUST A COVER STORY TO PUT PEOPLE OFF THE SCENT OF A.B. BEING TAKEN DOWN, IN FACT, BY THE ZCASH BACK-DOOR...Huh

Hmm... hmm indeed...
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July 10, 2017, 01:00:13 AM
Is somebody trying to get google to remove Freewallet from the store?

I'm not sure - maybe someone else will chime in. Here's what I do know: if you search the reddit threads, there are lots of people claiming to have lost XMR while using Freewallet. So, we try to warn people. As for reporting to Google, I haven't looked into this but I'm not sure they would do anything because Freewallet does disclose that your private keys are accessible to them, and also because Monero transactions are private so if they did take money, it couldn't be traced. It's like a person giving the key to their house to the bad apple neighbor and calling the police if something ends up missing.
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July 10, 2017, 12:38:00 AM
Is somebody trying to get google to remove Freewallet from the store?
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July 10, 2017, 12:29:51 AM
Android wallet screenshots
http://imgur.com/a/mluUb
link to download?
I searched "monero wallet" on the google play store and it has something from Freewallet.org.  I installed it.  Now it wants me to log in with google+, facebook, or my phone number.  That doesn't make sense to me.
Where do I download the legit wallet?

Freewallet is a scam. People have lost money, and they have your private keys. I'd uninstall it ASAP.

The Android wallet is still in the works and those pics were just a preview of what's coming. More info at https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6ma6wk/gkruja_has_some_screenshots_for_moneros_android/

See also: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/651un2/monero_v01031_cli_for_android_arm64/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6lfp9f/any_good_monero_wallets_for_android/
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July 10, 2017, 12:24:36 AM
Android wallet screenshots
http://imgur.com/a/mluUb
link to download?
I searched "monero wallet" on the google play store and it has something from Freewallet.org.  I installed it.  Now it wants me to log in with google+, facebook, or my phone number.  That doesn't make sense to me.
Where do I download the legit wallet?
Edit:  I see from some recent posts on reddit that the wallet is still being coded.
So for now I'm sticking with GnuRootDebian.
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July 09, 2017, 11:26:51 PM
Android wallet screenshots
http://imgur.com/a/mluUb
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legendary
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July 09, 2017, 05:55:35 PM
remember Zcash is an 'evolution' of Zerocoin, but imo this quote is significant because the same guy is heavily involved in both projects.

At the same time Zcash went from 3 month ROI for a 1080ti like a week ago to 5.8 months now, and that's pre-energy costs.  Probably closer to 7.5 months ROI now with energy costs, so the enthusiasm for Zcash mining has now died down a lot.

Yup, been warning people for over a month to not buy all these jacked up Vid cards to mine but Fools be fomo'in. Lol

I'll be picking up some cheap ars GPU's soon. Smiley
legendary
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July 09, 2017, 05:20:32 PM
remember Zcash is an 'evolution' of Zerocoin, but imo this quote is significant because the same guy is heavily involved in both projects.

At the same time Zcash went from 3 month ROI for a 1080ti like a week ago to 5.8 months now, and that's pre-energy costs.  Probably closer to 7.5 months ROI now with energy costs, so the enthusiasm for Zcash mining has now died down a lot.
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July 09, 2017, 03:18:06 PM
there you go: https://www.newscientist.com/blogs/onepercent/2013/03/bitcoin-zerocoin.html

remember Zcash is an 'evolution' of Zerocoin, but imo this quote is significant because the same guy is heavily involved in both projects.

Thank you. I updated https://moneroforcash.com/monero-vs-dash-vs-zcash-vs-bitcoinmixers.php to reflect this. I tried to be fair and point out that he said this not about Zcash, but about Zerocoin, but I agree it's significant given that he's now on the Zcash team. Plus, Zooko's quote removes any doubt as to their team's feelings about privacy.
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July 09, 2017, 02:35:31 PM
then when they added ZEC they got raided almost immediately.

I'd never even thought of this!  AB went down pretty much as soon as ZCash was supposed to go live!  A lot of people believe LE created ZCash in the first place for this exact purpose.




Is there a link to what Green said? Zooko said something similar (https://twitter.com/zooko/status/863202798883577856), but if we have the page where Green said that I'd like to add it to my links.
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July 09, 2017, 02:19:13 PM
Plot thickens...

https://www.reddit.com/r/AlphaBay/comments/6m8jgl/alphabay_update_admin_arrested_staff_jump_ship/

Could be bogus... hard to say.  Truth is, though, this has crypto/xmr consequences...  time to make money.
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