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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 679. (Read 3314325 times)

legendary
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Free spirit
June 21, 2017, 04:50:01 AM
Dash - A good coin, very professional community and a good business plan.

that's just wrong... have you been on the dash-subreddit, or in their slack channel... they're just echo-chambers... Dash has almost no community except their paid for fanboyz



Maybe they can change the name again to hide the history more. Anyone knows bad bad
sr. member
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June 21, 2017, 04:30:36 AM
guys, i would like to sell some ETH and buy monero instead, but when i want to sent from parity to my poloniex account , my poloniex says its generating an adress but it does not give me an adress... it stays on " generating "

someone has the same problem? are there other ways to sell my ETH for monero ?

please help
sr. member
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June 21, 2017, 03:49:31 AM
Dash - A good coin, very professional community and a good business plan.

that's just wrong... have you been on the dash-subreddit, or in their slack channel... they're just echo-chambers... Dash has almost no community except their paid for fanboyz

legendary
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June 21, 2017, 02:55:16 AM

Bytecoin - I do not know. Sounds just another coin, Monero is a fork from it?


Bytecoin has an 80% premine (a lot of which hasn't been touched, and a lot given away at launch and lost) which is why the cap is so high - the amount in actual circulation is way less. It was sitting at 4 sat just a few months ago - there is a small amount of development in the coin but not much. I put the rise down to pure speculation, also the wallet has been down on polo for quite a while.
legendary
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June 21, 2017, 02:02:34 AM
My speculation is that xmr will continue its steady longer term appreciation trend, with much less significant volatility than other leading crypto (BTC, ETH).  In the long run, XMR will appreciate significantly more than BTC, as it's use cases are greater, and the current valuation is 50x lower.

Depending on your criteria, you might deem various issues as "leading crypto" but market cap per se is clearly meaningless.  Bytecoin, dash, zcash and ripple are prime examples of that meaninglessness, for distinct reasons with similar implications, i.e. in each case the cap far exceeds the float - liquidity stinks, and every "greater fool" that comes along is just burying themselves under a deeper and deeper creaking overhang.  I do not deem any of these four in particular to be in the class of "leading crypto".  I still hope for a fair community launch of a zksnark crypto (or the incorporation of zksnarks into xmr.)

ETH is definitely leading crypto, but can't be classed as a monetary asset per se.  It is also heading for a legal and social catastrophe at an ever accelerating pace.  I much prefer the tortoise-style victory to which Monero is iterating, steering far clear of the snake oil and Ponzi complexes that besmirch the very concept of crypto.  The political and governance risks of XMR seem clearly to be much less than those of either BTC or (most especially) ETH.


Bytecoin - I do not know. Sounds just another coin, Monero is a fork from it?

Dash - A good coin, very professional community and a good business plan.

Zcash - Probably will take over Monero in terms of marketcap

Ripple - used by the banks, banks have money, has bright future.

ETH - No direct rival to Monero. Different type of an asset and thanks to amtitious and apparently hardworking Vitalik who enjoys apparently hotel living it will have bright future as well. One of the big regrets I did not invest in the crowdsale. Even a smallish investment worth now million usd. Unless bitcoin will not get a major pump any time soon and stay new highs, chances are ETH will become the largest crypto.
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
June 20, 2017, 10:04:37 PM
My speculation is that xmr will continue its steady longer term appreciation trend, with much less significant volatility than other leading crypto (BTC, ETH).  In the long run, XMR will appreciate significantly more than BTC, as it's use cases are greater, and the current valuation is 50x lower.

Depending on your criteria, you might deem various issues as "leading crypto" but market cap per se is clearly meaningless.  Bytecoin, dash, zcash and ripple are prime examples of that meaninglessness, for distinct reasons with similar implications, i.e. in each case the cap far exceeds the float - liquidity stinks, and every "greater fool" that comes along is just burying themselves under a deeper and deeper creaking overhang.  I do not deem any of these four in particular to be in the class of "leading crypto".  I still hope for a fair community launch of a zksnark crypto (or the incorporation of zksnarks into xmr.)

ETH is definitely leading crypto, but can't be classed as a monetary asset per se.  It is also heading for a legal and social catastrophe at an ever accelerating pace.  I much prefer the tortoise-style victory to which Monero is iterating, steering far clear of the snake oil and Ponzi complexes that besmirch the very concept of crypto.  The political and governance risks of XMR seem clearly to be much less than those of either BTC or (most especially) ETH.
sr. member
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June 20, 2017, 04:52:25 PM
Moreno he why it does not rise. Should be $ 100 so far. all beings rose to such large volumes.

so we can get our Return on investment. Could be in 1 month ?

It was waiting for me to buy a small stash.  Now that I've got a small stash of Monero, it can rise now.
hero member
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June 20, 2017, 03:16:10 PM
What is the long term prediction for monero? It is the oldest anonymous currency used on darknet markets. Will zcash replace it? Is it wise to hold monero for a few years or will it be obsolete by then? Please comment if you are holding long term. In a few years zcash, zcoin and others, even bitcoin could make monero seem clunky and old. Opinions please

Don`t think Zcash will replace it ... afaik you will ALWAYS need to use the public-chain t-adresses to use Zcash at an exchange, and if your coins come from z-adresses the exchanges just might block them like coinbase does for bitcoin.

Perhaps not technologically Zcash will not replace Monero.
However, marketcapwise it is pretty much the matter of time unless someone of us decides to significiantly increase his/her position in Monero. New adaption hardly will come as there is no outreach.

Good. Monero isn't bulletproof enough to be ready for massive amounts of attention.
legendary
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June 20, 2017, 02:17:59 PM
What is the long term prediction for monero? It is the oldest anonymous currency used on darknet markets. Will zcash replace it? Is it wise to hold monero for a few years or will it be obsolete by then? Please comment if you are holding long term. In a few years zcash, zcoin and others, even bitcoin could make monero seem clunky and old. Opinions please

Don`t think Zcash will replace it ... afaik you will ALWAYS need to use the public-chain t-adresses to use Zcash at an exchange, and if your coins come from z-adresses the exchanges just might block them like coinbase does for bitcoin.

Perhaps not technologically Zcash will not replace Monero.
However, marketcapwise it is pretty much the matter of time unless someone of us decides to significiantly increase his/her position in Monero. New adaption hardly will come as there is no outreach.
hero member
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June 20, 2017, 01:26:06 PM
Holding very steady. Doing what it normally does and follow BTC.
hero member
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June 20, 2017, 12:41:02 PM
What is the long term prediction for monero? It is the oldest anonymous currency used on darknet markets. Will zcash replace it? Is it wise to hold monero for a few years or will it be obsolete by then? Please comment if you are holding long term. In a few years zcash, zcoin and others, even bitcoin could make monero seem clunky and old. Opinions please

Don`t think Zcash will replace it ... afaik you will ALWAYS need to use the public-chain t-adresses to use Zcash at an exchange, and if your coins come from z-adresses the exchanges just might block them like coinbase does for bitcoin.
legendary
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June 20, 2017, 12:33:23 PM
What is the long term prediction for monero? It is the oldest anonymous currency used on darknet markets. Will zcash replace it? Is it wise to hold monero for a few years or will it be obsolete by then? Please comment if you are holding long term. In a few years zcash, zcoin and others, even bitcoin could make monero seem clunky and old. Opinions please

Fantum see https://moneroforcash.com/monero-vs-dash-vs-zcash-vs-bitcoinmixers.php
legendary
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thefuzzstone.github.io
June 20, 2017, 12:29:01 PM
What is the long term prediction for monero?

I think that Grandmother Vanga doesn't have an account here...
sr. member
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June 20, 2017, 12:25:32 PM
What is the long term prediction for monero? It is the oldest anonymous currency used on darknet markets. Will zcash replace it? Is it wise to hold monero for a few years or will it be obsolete by then? Please comment if you are holding long term. In a few years zcash, zcoin and others, even bitcoin could make monero seem clunky and old. Opinions please
newbie
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June 20, 2017, 12:21:51 PM
Let it be - Pump!
Just be sure you don’t pull a Fluffy Pony on the community.
Trying to pump a coin like Monero has got to be hard to do.
I think somebody/large force is keeping the price largely down for now - not sure how far any pump attempt will go...

In my eyes no one is keeping the price down... no one is buying and no one is selling... we are kind in a equilibrium that will turn either upside or downside one day. The volume you see are just minor buys and sell and mostly market maker/painting bot trying to paint the candles.

All bitches are waiting for the BTC movement. No selling no buying, just waiting those lame XMR bitches  Grin
hero member
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June 20, 2017, 11:31:36 AM
Let it be - Pump!
Just be sure you don’t pull a Fluffy Pony on the community.
Trying to pump a coin like Monero has got to be hard to do.
I think somebody/large force is keeping the price largely down for now - not sure how far any pump attempt will go...

In my eyes no one is keeping the price down... no one is buying and no one is selling... we are kind in a equilibrium that will turn either upside or downside one day. The volume you see are just minor buys and sell and mostly market maker/painting bot trying to paint the candles.
legendary
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Merit: 1029
June 20, 2017, 10:45:33 AM
Let it be - Pump!
Just be sure you don’t pull a Fluffy Pony on the community.
Trying to pump a coin like Monero has got to be hard to do.
I think somebody/large force is keeping the price largely down for now - not sure how far any pump attempt will go...
full member
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June 20, 2017, 09:55:37 AM
Let it be - Pump!
Just be sure you don’t pull a Fluffy Pony on the community.
Trying to pump a coin like Monero has got to be hard to do.
hero member
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novag
June 20, 2017, 08:46:57 AM
Let it be - Pump!
hero member
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June 20, 2017, 04:11:28 AM

...it allows me to use proxy statistics to model the transactional economy, and apply Fisher's law to derive an approximate economic price support level.  I then buy when price is below a discounted fair value determined by Bayesian regression projection of that fair value, where the discounting rate as a function of horizon tenor is derived by historical backtest.  I try to make market short-term, in a small way, but whether I am rolling those gains into BTC or into xmr depends on where the price is relative to the current regression estimate...




Translation for those of us like me who's a mite dim, some times, when the grownups be talkin' all fancy math...?

"Buy Monero, and HODL: Dat Shit Be Good"

 Grin 

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