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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 976. (Read 3314350 times)

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October 21, 2016, 04:41:45 AM
Zcash and its impact on the XMR price. There are some futures out, which value Zcash over 50 USD! That means for me, there is a lot of "demand" for anontech and XMR is way undervalued!
Zcash inflation will be insane in the first 1-2 years, while XMR inflation is going strongly down, plus some updates for XMR will make it stronger then Zcash, which has Anon only as option, but default is not anon.

 
sr. member
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October 21, 2016, 04:08:20 AM
I've been monitoring 10 different searches on AB since the launch 7/10 have seen an increase. 4/10 categories have roughly doubled the offerings since launch.

So than you can deliver sources and numbers for us what you are monitoring that everyone here can check this numbers? So please tell us what are these 10 categories you are monitoring.

Strange that even AB say's that not many vendors uses XRM. In every categorie XRM has something between only 0-8%. So im really intererested in your numbers.

http://pwoah7foa6au2pul.onion/forum/index.php?threads/monero-being-removed-from-ab.105698/#post-926275



Meanwhile AB even recommends to use a Tumbler for BTC instead of XRM  Roll Eyes


where are your numbers?
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October 21, 2016, 04:01:03 AM
Trolls like this are usually the ones with the least skin in the game.

We've seen this happen many times before with people displaying the same kind of psychology as N-rg... defined by having a lot of free-time on their hands to post, and a desperate need to move the markets in accordance with their trades. It usually transpires that the free-time is due to unemployment and the desperation is due to poverty.

I'd be very surprised if this guy even had 25 BTC let alone 250 BTC.

the likes of primer- and mrkavasaki? ^^
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legendary
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October 21, 2016, 03:23:24 AM
Trolls like this are usually the ones with the least skin in the game.

We've seen this happen many times before with people displaying the same kind of psychology as N-rg... defined by having a lot of free-time on their hands to post, and a desperate need to move the markets in accordance with their trades. It usually transpires that the free-time is due to unemployment and the desperation is due to poverty.

I'd be very surprised if this guy even had 25 BTC let alone 250 BTC.

+1

You hit the nail on the head.
This should be a sticky here.  Grin
That's a big kind of profit if that happens, maybe the key here to make the right decision in trading is just to be a risk taker, and not just listen to the trolls who are telling bad about monero, I get it that the price is not good right now but we have not drop yet below 0.01, so I realize there's still a chance to see a big pump in the future.
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October 21, 2016, 02:54:34 AM
Trolls like this are usually the ones with the least skin in the game.

We've seen this happen many times before with people displaying the same kind of psychology as N-rg... defined by having a lot of free-time on their hands to post, and a desperate need to move the markets in accordance with their trades. It usually transpires that the free-time is due to unemployment and the desperation is due to poverty.

I'd be very surprised if this guy even had 25 BTC let alone 250 BTC.

+1

You hit the nail on the head.
This should be a sticky here.  Grin
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October 21, 2016, 02:40:52 AM
Trolls like this are usually the ones with the least skin in the game.

We've seen this happen many times before with people displaying the same kind of psychology as N-rg... defined by having a lot of free-time on their hands to post, and a desperate need to move the markets in accordance with their trades. It usually transpires that the free-time is due to unemployment and the desperation is due to poverty.

I'd be very surprised if this guy even had 25 BTC let alone 250 BTC.
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October 21, 2016, 02:16:19 AM
As N-rG and his sock puppets moneylooser (dude loser is written with 1 O, Germans never learn that) and others, spread lies and faked news around the hour, they achieve some kind of contra effect. They make XMR hodlers and interested investors dull and deaf for FUD, they desensibilize everybody to FUD as everybody sees how obvious there agenda is and how much energy they put into it. Thx. Cheesy

I transfer you 250 BTC, pay 500 BTC to the XMR core dev Team and delete my account here when you give us proof that anything of this is fake (anyone else can try to deliver proof too so)  Roll Eyes

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Strange that even AB say's that not many vendors uses XRM. In every categorie XRM has something between only 0-8%. So im really intererested in your numbers.

http://pwoah7foa6au2pul.onion/forum/index.php?threads/monero-being-removed-from-ab.105698/#post-926275



Meanwhile AB even recommends to use a Tumbler for BTC instead of XRM  Roll Eyes

But ya, sparky999 must be right aswell as you his followers who still have the dream for the big hit but cannot deliver any argument except "XMR is great, buy it".
I guess that's the reason why the coin is now at something ~0.0100 -totally opposite what most people here were praying all the time. Espeacially TrueCrypt who said it is at 10.000$....the never ending loser story  Cheesy



But maybe it is just to complex for some people. Some vendors explain it easy:



So successful that DreamMarket (The Nr.1 Market) doesnt want it





But serious: Maybe it will rise someday. But not now, not this year, and never worth 10.000$.
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October 21, 2016, 01:40:42 AM
More realistic view of achieving 10 000 usd/xmr is 10-20 years. It took 10-20 years for internet to break through so please give Monero also some years.

20 years is really a long time in terms of software engineering, so I would not expect that Monero still exists in 20 years in its current manner. I think good software will succeed in the end, so I'm holding my Moneros as long as necessary (long term investment 2-5 years).

Regarding the zCash hype: I think a lot of people will loose a lot of money in the the first weeks of the zCash launch (every bubble bursts in some time). So I will stay away from zCash. Although it's not a design contest, but the zCash GUI looks really ugly  Shocked
legendary
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October 21, 2016, 01:20:33 AM
As N-rG and his sock puppets moneylooser (dude loser is written with 1 O, Germans never learn that) and others, spread lies and faked news around the hour, they achieve some kind of contra effect. They make XMR hodlers and interested investors dull and deaf for FUD, they desensibilize everybody to FUD as everybody sees how obvious there agenda is and how much energy they put into it. Thx. Cheesy

Basically you are saying they are an inoculation. Vaccines are made of disease and they are disease. Funny thought.
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October 21, 2016, 01:19:35 AM
As N-rG and his sock puppets moneylooser (dude loser is written with 1 O, Germans never learn that) and others, spread lies and faked news around the hour, they achieve some kind of contra effect. They make XMR hodlers and interested investors dull and deaf for FUD, they desensibilize everybody to FUD as everybody sees how obvious there agenda is and how much energy they put into it. Thx. Cheesy
legendary
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October 21, 2016, 01:15:53 AM
The trolls are too short term here. They are expecting 10 000 usd by tonight and if the price will not go there in 24 hours they call it impossible.
Yes, Monero will be worth 10 000 usd each sooner or later but not today or even in 2016. 10 000 usd/xmr price tag is not impossible but the timeline of hours/a few months is unrealistic.
The shorters period it need to reach that price is 3-4 years - and that requires also skyrocketing and some mad money. More realistic view of achieving 10 000 usd/xmr is 10-20 years. It took 10-20 years for internet to break through so please give Monero also some years.

We will need a serious proper solution to scaling for that to ever happen. Way way more than just an adaptive block size, database optimization and pruning.
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October 21, 2016, 12:14:41 AM
Those people who write about the lowering of the failure is not done about the wallet and so on, are just jealous further development and growth of investments in coins, as well as they are not holders of Shares (coins), which proves their behavior. So do not pay attention to them and to all a good day.
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October 21, 2016, 12:04:33 AM
The trolls are too short term here. They are expecting 10 000 usd by tonight and if the price will not go there in 24 hours they call it impossible.
Yes, Monero will be worth 10 000 usd each sooner or later but not today or even in 2016. 10 000 usd/xmr price tag is not impossible but the timeline of hours/a few months is unrealistic.
The shorters period it need to reach that price is 3-4 years - and that requires also skyrocketing and some mad money. More realistic view of achieving 10 000 usd/xmr is 10-20 years. It took 10-20 years for internet to break through so please give Monero also some years.
I guess that's a long wait but worth a shot, buy then if we are talking of that substantial growth, what would be the price of bitcoin then. With your prediction, it made me realize that I should also consider XMR and now is its lowest price maybe... So let's see, gonna grab some later for 10-20 years holding.
legendary
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October 20, 2016, 10:23:09 PM
The trolls are too short term here. They are expecting 10 000 usd by tonight and if the price will not go there in 24 hours they call it impossible.
Yes, Monero will be worth 10 000 usd each sooner or later but not today or even in 2016. 10 000 usd/xmr price tag is not impossible but the timeline of hours/a few months is unrealistic.
The shorters period it need to reach that price is 3-4 years - and that requires also skyrocketing and some mad money. More realistic view of achieving 10 000 usd/xmr is 10-20 years. It took 10-20 years for internet to break through so please give Monero also some years.
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October 20, 2016, 09:05:20 PM
How can you call Monero a pump and dump? Even if it was initially supposed to be a pump and dump, it wouldn't end up as one. Since the biggest marketplace on the DN picked it up as a payment option, that means slowly but surely everyone else is going to jump on the bandwagon. AB has lots more to lose then anyone else on the DN, if they trust it then anyone else can.
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October 20, 2016, 08:17:27 PM
It seems the GUI bug is not being ignored and the devs want to have it fix before the beta release. With no GUI before Zcash launch I don't think current prices can hold. We might see lower prices and find a bottom below 0.01

Why would anyone want devs to ignore a bug in the GUI ? Good for them. That's what gives me confidence in XMR.
As for price, we already saw a low below .01, and the chances of revisiting that area seem quite high (it's not like we are far above it now!). Good chance to buy more. Personally I thought smoothie's chart of essentially sideways for a month or more seemed a pretty likely scenario anyway - a parabolic spike needs time to cool off. It's healthy. Good chance to throw a few more opportunists off the train...

Not quite sure why there is so much paranoia about Zcash - do people really expect it's mass adoption overnight (if at all)? It's got Zero appeal to me. And what about the possibilty that it is not ready for release and bugs are found and exploited ...
Seems like people really want to spread fear around it's launch an negative impact for XMR. Feel it or don't.
Regardless, should be a fun show to watch


yeah I have my popcorn ready for the show....if the futures are anything to go by it will be a bloodbath. Never mind anything going wrong...


plus the zcash wallet is allegedly extremely resource hungry and slow to transact. So lets see the polo wallet under stress once this heats up...ah the show....
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October 20, 2016, 07:48:28 PM
It seems the GUI bug is not being ignored and the devs want to have it fix before the beta release. With no GUI before Zcash launch I don't think current prices can hold. We might see lower prices and find a bottom below 0.01

Why would anyone want devs to ignore a bug in the GUI ? Good for them. That's what gives me confidence in XMR.
As for price, we already saw a low below .01, and the chances of revisiting that area seem quite high (it's not like we are far above it now!). Good chance to buy more. Personally I thought smoothie's chart of essentially sideways for a month or more seemed a pretty likely scenario anyway - a parabolic spike needs time to cool off. It's healthy. Good chance to throw a few more opportunists off the train...

Not quite sure why there is so much paranoia about Zcash - do people really expect it's mass adoption overnight (if at all)? It's got Zero appeal to me. And what about the possibilty that it is not ready for release and bugs are found and exploited ...
Seems like people really want to spread fear around it's launch an negative impact for XMR. Feel it or don't.
Regardless, should be a fun show to watch
legendary
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October 20, 2016, 07:33:50 PM
It seems the GUI bug is not being ignored and the devs want to have it fix before the beta release. With no GUI before Zcash launch I don't think current prices can hold. We might see lower prices and find a bottom below 0.01

Bugs will be fixed all the time and i am sure there will be many bugs after more people will use wallet.

Next week hash rate will for sure fall. Price could actually rise since people might mine ZCash and dump it for XMR.
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October 20, 2016, 07:27:45 PM
It seems the GUI bug is not being ignored and the devs want to have it fix before the beta release. With no GUI before Zcash launch I don't think current prices can hold. We might see lower prices and find a bottom below 0.01
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