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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 980. (Read 3314350 times)

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October 20, 2016, 03:45:10 AM
For everyone yelling "MARKETING" here is your chance to show your support for a little PR. https://forum.getmonero.org/6/ideas/86984/monero-video-series whats better than linking to a youtube video that explains the stuff you just said :p

Making videos is just one part of the job, pitching them through Facebook/Reddit/Blogs/Ads is another, otherwise nobody will see them.
Does Monero have a some kind of Facebook site? It is very easy to post a video there and pay some bucks for showing the videos to a special public. Facebook Ads are cheap and enable one to target very specific people interested in Crypto/Bitcoin/Investments. Videos or Infographics are very good suited for Facebook. Content needs to be made in such a way that the specific targeted public is adressed. This can be funded too.

There is no XMR adress where we can send the XMR to support the video producers.
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October 20, 2016, 03:05:33 AM
For everyone yelling "MARKETING" here is your chance to show your support for a little PR. https://forum.getmonero.org/6/ideas/86984/monero-video-series whats better than linking to a youtube video that explains the stuff you just said :p
newbie
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October 20, 2016, 02:43:24 AM
Good to sell above 0.0103

Margin short above 0.0103

Liquidate at 0.0186

Take profit 0.008888-0.009500

Gain goal: +7.5% (after costs)
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
October 20, 2016, 12:23:04 AM

It doesnt matter for me if monero is a company or not. I talk about naked marketing for the increase of value (isn't this why most are here  Wink).
If we want to have a wide acceptance of monero people have to know that monero is existant and about it's benefits. It is totally preposterous and dubios to claim that monero needs no marketing. Beside the fact that marketing was and is already a part of Monero. But it is expendable. I really dont understand why some people here are ignoring totally basic factors and than wonder why we haven't had a price explosion.

Marketing is a key function for success. Most people here are holding monero because they hope its somewhen more valueable as today. To believe monero itself will do this job is simply wrong.

Ah so, now you've bought in you're an expert on these things? Why don't we cut the crap and get to the bottom of your problem:-

You want the Monero price to rise because you've bought back in, and guess what, let's throw some mutha fucking marketing into the equation to help N-rG with his profits, so that hopefully one day, he can cash out and dump all over the community/noobs with lashings of evangelical FUD.

I guess you must be new here. Let me tell you what I see:-

I see a coin that has gone from nothing, and fiercely defended itself against other projects that have the luxury of unlimited treasuries as a consequence of scammy premines and instamines complete with all the fucking PR in the world, and won every single battle regardless.

I see a coin that has been routinely censored by a scammy corporate conspiracy of colluding interests who have tried at every turn to push the scams into the limelight at the expense of the Monero project and it's community.

I see a coin that has gone from nothing only to become the third biggest cryptocurrency in the scene. A coin that is now 5th or 6th on the marketcap, and one of three similar projects to be on StackExchange.

I see a coin that had no treasury, and no funny business; only an egalitarian genesis, and a commitment to make it work whatever the odds.

I see a coin that is routinely providing much trade volume for speculation, and has the volatility for serious profit.

I see a coin that is politically disruptive without comparison; the single best trustless untraceable blockchain in existence.

And all of this has been achieved without a pot to piss in nor a window to throw it out of.

Why do we need marketing when we are winning? Everything that we have done thus far has been WIN. Why change that? Just for your profits no doubt?

Let me know when we start to lose, and then maybe we can start to think about finding an Amanda B Johnson clone to push in front of a camera.



An outstanding exposition; very well said Sir.

It is indeed absurd to entertain the notion that Monero lacks a "price explosion" and/or is losing, as I play with 6 digits of house money on Poloniex.

But in the event Monero does need (shudder) marketing, I hereby nominate @BraveTheWorld to be our (most ideal potential) Scamanda B. Johnson analogue.

Your Hydra hasn't expressed any support or even awareness of Monero, yet she fully groks the crypto-revolutionary ethos+logos+pathos and if we Mustangs cannot get her on board we must pause and reconsider where our most noble cause went awry.

If Monero does earn her support and we are able to facilitate consequent joint marketing efforts, I anticipate we shall quickly gain a following among the Sovereign Individual Rees-Mogg crowd whose patronage I anticipated being an ideal fit for the lovely community here at Monero Mountain.
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October 19, 2016, 11:50:42 PM
my portfolio of altcoins [...] BTC and XMR [...] but also ETH/ETC, MAIDSAFE, some DASH [...] FACTOM, SIACOIN and some POTCOIN
[...]
Wonder if anyone here has any others that they think merit inclusion in a well-rounded portfolio?

Stocks, bonds, gold, fiat, real estate for example?

IMHO you are just fooling yourself diversifying / hedging etc into a high number of alt coins to not 'miss the moon shot'. In the end it is all very much the same. Monero being one of the very few that actually maybe can be considered as a hedge against Bitcoin, mainly because being more fungible.

Hedging is realizing (while still lying to yourself) that you probably won't make the right bet. With this doublethink in mind, the next logical step is to make many bets you're sure to be wrong!
legendary
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October 19, 2016, 10:08:09 PM
I'm 99.99% sure at this point that the price is being heavily manipulated
so whales can accumulate coins before it goes back to the 0.015+ price.

I'm still gonna mine away and hopefully one day my couple Monero are enough to at lest pay a car payment or something lol.


Was it Aminorex or who that told us the value of Monero will be 3-5 oz of pure gold. I am not sure how large is your car payment though.
I highly recommend to help your mining to buy some coins with cash as well. At least so that you have 100 XMR so you will be able to pay the car payments sooner.  Grin
sr. member
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October 19, 2016, 09:52:58 PM
I'm 99.99% sure at this point that the price is being heavily manipulated
so whales can accumulate coins before it goes back to the 0.015+ price.

I'm still gonna mine away and hopefully one day my couple Monero are enough to at lest pay a car payment or something lol.
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
October 19, 2016, 09:21:44 PM
^^ lucky you Smiley

After the sell side being consistently over 400k coins for sale it has fallen steadily for a few days and is now <300k.  Yeah it is manipulated and most are a bit away from market price but still I find it gives some indication where the price is headed and it seems to be correlated once more.

I bought under 0.01 when I saw the sell side started to lessen.  I told myself that I would sell at a 10-15% profit.  I gave myself the added excuse that I would definitely do it this time because the btc I used was supposed to be hodled.  btc will go up!   Well I still have my recent Monero.  I fooled myself again. Tongue  The only way I seem to be able to get rid of Monero is to go on a boat but that doesn't really accomplish anything.

I once again brought up the subject of crypto with my gf and plans for future vacations recently.  I gave her a big opening and she once again did not ask about the price.  I love it Cool

Nice I've been gone since thursday. concert then casino then helped someone get their transmission swapped in their E38 (real PITA!!!), I was so surprised my sell had been filled as I put it at like .0113 and I noticed signs of reversal so I wanted them now and then the spike hit while I was trying to get them that I forgot I had some more BTC dust to add. Hah
legendary
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October 19, 2016, 08:46:08 PM
^^ lucky you Smiley

After the sell side being consistently over 400k coins for sale it has fallen steadily for a few days and is now <300k.  Yeah it is manipulated and most are a bit away from market price but still I find it gives some indication where the price is headed and it seems to be correlated once more.

I bought under 0.01 when I saw the sell side started to lessen.  I told myself that I would sell at a 10-15% profit.  I gave myself the added excuse that I would definitely do it this time because the btc I used was supposed to be hodled.  btc will go up!   Well I still have my recent Monero.  I fooled myself again. Tongue  The only way I seem to be able to get rid of Monero is to go on a boat but that doesn't really accomplish anything.

I once again brought up the subject of crypto with my gf and plans for future vacations recently.  I gave her a big opening and she once again did not ask about the price.  I love it Cool
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
October 19, 2016, 08:08:34 PM
Shit, I just noticed my sell went off so I went to put a buy in @ .0105 and just when I was placing it the damn thing started spiking on me! Lol I haven't looked at Polo since thursday, what weird timing.

Nice, got dumped on @ 0.01064601 , works for me! Cheesy
legendary
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October 19, 2016, 08:04:52 PM

Expecting a DNM vendor to hedge Monero held in escrow is not realistic. Rather I think they will just accept bitcoin only as long as Monero price is volatile. A quiet period of price stability around .01 for a few months, maybe trading range .09 - 1.2 would be welcome. That would calm fears of a bear market, increase confidence and set the stage for an uptrend in 2017.

Yes I would welcome a trading range of .09 - 1.2  Grin

So you think some stability will lead to adoption?  Would adoption lead to volatility as it did last time?

I have never seen proof that Monero is used to a significant extent yet on DNMs. The speculative bubble starting in August was just that, speculation that Monero would be commonly used along with Bitcoin on the DNMs. And the bubble burst but Monero is still trading 4X the price in July. There does seem to be solid buy support below .01 and Monero is on every trader's radar now.
legendary
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October 19, 2016, 04:20:00 PM
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Also, I think XMR will eventually recover but we are in for a bear market that will probably last a few months. I admire that you are the only person here who is still keeping up the bullish sentiment.

I am sure he is not only one who is bullish here. There are plenty that called bottom.
I personally am neither.  What I am sure is that it is totally impossible that rate with which price decreased last month is impossible to continue.




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October 19, 2016, 04:00:28 PM
my portfolio of altcoins [...] BTC and XMR [...] but also ETH/ETC, MAIDSAFE, some DASH [...] FACTOM, SIACOIN and some POTCOIN
[...]
Wonder if anyone here has any others that they think merit inclusion in a well-rounded portfolio?

Stocks, bonds, gold, fiat, real estate for example?

IMHO you are just fooling yourself diversifying / hedging etc into a high number of alt coins to not 'miss the moon shot'. In the end it is all very much the same. Monero being one of the very few that actually maybe can be considered as a hedge against Bitcoin, mainly because being more fungible.

Thanks for the reply... but yeah my example was meant ONLY as "crypto" portfolio, obviously it's not ALL my money (I'm not that crazy LOL)

And, yes, it's over 80% BTC and XMR, only the rest 20%-ish in all these others, mainly on the strength of stuff like MaidSafe which I don't really even consider exclusively a 'cryptocurrency' play: SafeCoins will have no blockchain and IF those guys can pull off what they're trying to do, i.e. completely re-engineer the entire architecture of the basic Internet to make it decentralized and server-less... then frankly THAT would possibly change the world even more than just bitcoin alone.  The SIAcoin play is a little hedge on MAID too, since those guys are slightly less ambitious and not quite trying to take on SO MUCH as the MaidSafe project.

So, really, FWIW these are not exactly "hedges" but just almost like totally separate investments in very interesting and possibly world-changing new tech.

Only the BTC/XMR was originally intended as a "hedge" on BTC possibly failing but the more I think about it, the more it seems like it's possible they will BOTH succeed together, addressing different needs and niches *but* IMHO with XMR being vastly more valuable than today... maybe even worth MORE than Bitcoin on a per-coin basis, in the long run.

Interesting times, indeed, we live in... Smiley
legendary
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October 19, 2016, 03:29:16 PM

Expecting a DNM vendor to hedge Monero held in escrow is not realistic. Rather I think they will just accept bitcoin only as long as Monero price is volatile. A quiet period of price stability around .01 for a few months, maybe trading range .09 - 1.2 would be welcome. That would calm fears of a bear market, increase confidence and set the stage for an uptrend in 2017.

Yes I would welcome a trading range of .09 - 1.2  Grin

So you think some stability will lead to adoption?  Would adoption lead to volatility as it did last time?
legendary
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Flippin' burgers since 1163.
October 19, 2016, 03:23:18 PM
my portfolio of altcoins [...] BTC and XMR [...] but also ETH/ETC, MAIDSAFE, some DASH [...] FACTOM, SIACOIN and some POTCOIN
[...]
Wonder if anyone here has any others that they think merit inclusion in a well-rounded portfolio?

Stocks, bonds, gold, fiat, real estate for example?

IMHO you are just fooling yourself diversifying / hedging etc into a high number of alt coins to not 'miss the moon shot'. In the end it is all very much the same. Monero being one of the very few that actually maybe can be considered as a hedge against Bitcoin, mainly because being more fungible.
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
October 19, 2016, 03:13:52 PM
I see the risk/reward ratio to be better in XMR then in BTC, a rally of 10-15% is not that impressive. I made 15% in just a day today with XMR. So BTC is not that impressive.

Interesting news, the European Central Bank wants to control or curb the development of virtual currencies.
Perhaps they can control Bitcoin better but not XMR.

Not surprising so a central bank wants a monopoly on money, no surprise there.
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October 19, 2016, 03:06:21 PM
Quote from: cryptimus prime
@cryptimus prime could you please reply to my pm  Cry

No sorry Cryptimus I am too important. Cheesy

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Jokes aside, there are several technical aspects which indicate upward movement for XMR. Also some nice bullish divergence on the 1-day MACD.
sr. member
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October 19, 2016, 02:49:14 PM
@nrg could you please reply to my pm  Cry

no
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novag
October 19, 2016, 02:42:30 PM
Good tendency is that the number of sellers of coins falling and growing number of buyers, people have realized the value of the coins and do not sell cheap, not including speculators and Shorter.
sr. member
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October 19, 2016, 02:39:42 PM
Following your post history you lost a lot of money Cheesy Must be frustrating....live goes on buddy Smiley

Ups pressed ignore.  Tongue


The truth of someones own failure hits most right? You'll notice in silent how sad you are that you still read this post even that you pressed that. And you'll do so in the future Smiley
Welcome to the club of the type of people who intented to leave this board but are still posting here  Roll Eyes
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