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newbie
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October 17, 2016, 11:14:08 PM
Man, just stop the freaking discusting discussion about ya being some bitching sockpuppets of sockpuppets of N-rG or some other bitch!!!
I call ya suckpuppets of some c*ckpuppets bitches!!!
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
October 17, 2016, 10:43:04 PM
It is my understanding that he went on a cruise around the world.

You'd think he'd have learned to stay away from the damn boats by now  Tongue

Not all cruises are on boats. I cruise in my jooogie car all the time.  Tongue
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
October 17, 2016, 10:33:11 PM

I'm new to cryptos but how would the official GUI differ from the unoffical ones currently available like lightwallet?

It seems lightwallet is quite easy to use and opensource, is it missing something I'm not aware of?

Official GUI will have everything included with it, unlike the lightwallets... runs node and wallet, etc.

plus it will be the official GUI of the core team that has the stamp of approval of a pony, mario, megaman, Antarctica, the dude, and Jackie Chanoether  Grin Grin Grin
legendary
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October 17, 2016, 10:01:04 PM
Very nice discussion and what a relief to read some good stuff for a while.
When it comes to Aminorex, his absence is a sign of buying zone.  Cheesy

When it comes to the shorter - most likely he is not an institutional investor. I doubt the institutions use alter egos and are flipflopping after each 2 % pump and dump.

I am not calling bottom because right after I do so someone dumps it even deeper but I feel much safer now, the coin once again sub 10 (which it has been most of its life).
Inflation getting closer to the initial bitcoin's inflation, and there are rumors a couple of nice thing are about to be released soon.
What are we lacking now is some heavy buying that is taking the coin to the moon.  Grin
That requires deep pockets since the legitimate pumper need to hold the minimum level on the surface of the moon, that being said the good thing about the space is it has not that much gravity so the further rises will have less resistance due to some weight released from the early guys and thus coins getting redistributed.
newbie
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October 17, 2016, 09:52:26 PM
Have a great feeling about GUI release. It will bring this precious, truly fungible digital currency to masses. gonna be an epic week!

I guess it will not come this week and if so not in a state which would be good for monero (beta with bugs). But maybe Jaqueee is able to fix all the known bugs. Would be really great ofc. I think the GUI should be released without any bugs. Otherwise it would give me/adolf/CTTE/Take A Horse To Water/aminorex/xmrdude/xmrmafia/(and every other person it is said i am too) another reason to FUD  Roll Eyes

 Smiley
hero member
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October 17, 2016, 09:51:39 PM
It is my understanding that he went on a cruise around the world.

You'd think he'd have learned to stay away from the damn boats by now  Tongue

Yeah but still -- why would that have to keep him away from us here on the forum?

Surely they have free wi-fi on the cruise ship....?

LOL

P.S. (yeah yeah I know, don't call me Shirley...)
legendary
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October 17, 2016, 08:09:31 PM
It is my understanding that he went on a cruise around the world.

You'd think he'd have learned to stay away from the damn boats by now  Tongue

Yep. I lost a hard disk with a ton of Monero in a boating accident too.
legendary
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October 17, 2016, 08:08:53 PM
The official GUI will run on windows, linux and mac.

light wallet connects to someone else's node, that's what makes it "light" yet you lose some privacy.  It was created when running a node took much greater resources than now.  Although for some people it will still be useful.

The official GUI is more than a wrapper and it will end up having more functionality than it is initially being released with.  Don't ask for details as this was discussed a long time ago and I am senile with one foot in the grave. 

I hope aminorex completes his cruise around the world with no mishap.

I bought more so that means the price should be continuing down. Tongue  @the world revolves around me

Edit: truck
legendary
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October 17, 2016, 08:03:54 PM
It is my understanding that he went on a cruise around the world.

You'd think he'd have learned to stay away from the damn boats by now  Tongue
full member
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October 17, 2016, 08:02:10 PM

I'm new to cryptos but how would the official GUI differ from the unoffical ones currently available like lightwallet?

It seems lightwallet is quite easy to use and opensource, is it missing something I'm not aware of?

Official GUI will have everything included with it, unlike the lightwallets... runs node and wallet, etc.

idk, it seems like lightwallet can do everything a casual/average user needs?

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I mean, when the GUI is out, it is ready for non-ponies and non-fairies (read: normal people) unlike we are apparently. The potential markets are huge and the price potential is even higher because the wealthy bagholders will not bother to sell too cheap if ever.

Another nice side effect of a GUI is that it encourages people to stop using Poloniex as a wallet. 
I think that the GUI is a bigger deal than what a lot of people like to admit. I think it is something that has consistently made it "difficult" for the average/casual user to easily enter the Monero world and you never want to make it hard for your "customers" to buy. However with that said, it may not create as big a bang as it should right out of the gates because most of the people involved at this point have made accommodations for it and either keep their Monero on an exchange(s) or MyMonero or learned simple wallet and these people will gladly use it but they are already "in".  Unfortunately it will only be a relatively small number of people who will immediately jump in and start buying for the first time and using the new wallet. The bigger gains will come over the next few months and weeks as new people from the DMs, people newly introduced to Monero and those who have been waiting specifically for it because in their mind we're like the "only" ones without a gui wallet and now see more value and legitimacy in the project.

To some Monero may look bad because there aren't those bells and whistles so of course the devs are "incompetent" because every coin had a shiny new wallet when it first came out... "how hard can it be?".  Now, I understand there is a lot more going on here than just writing another wrapper or grabbing a complete wallet codebase and changing the captions, logo and some text and BANG, you've got a wallet. But the average person doesn't know, understand or care and we need to start thinking about how we can do a better job of relating to those people instead of just the "technophiles" which we seem to attract because of the great technology we have.

We have fantastic devs on this project, some great contributors who have provided natural leadership and now that most of the key underpinnings of this project are in place or in progress, we need to bring those people with money to spend and not a lot of technical savvy or maybe just no desire to deal with a console app into the fold, make it easy to buy, hold, send, convert to btc,make payments, do some mining, etc... do it right and they will help to push Monero into a place of prominence and drive the market cap to a point that makes it even more palatable to more industries to use without all the volatility.

Sorry for running on about this but as I said, in the grand scheme of moving Monero from an "also ran" to a leader in the ecash space I believe this is critical!

CTTE

I'm new to cryptos but how would the official GUI differ from the unoffical ones currently available like lightwallet?

It seems lightwallet is quite easy to use and opensource, is it missing something I'm not aware of?

I think it's really only missing the "Official Monero" brand name and the impression that it will be supported for the long run by the dev team.  Plus, I'm not sure exactly how fully cross platform it is... someone with more info would have to address that. 

I think the official monero brand is a good point, light wallet runs on java so should be available to use on most operating systems
legendary
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October 17, 2016, 07:55:54 PM
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I mean, when the GUI is out, it is ready for non-ponies and non-fairies (read: normal people) unlike we are apparently. The potential markets are huge and the price potential is even higher because the wealthy bagholders will not bother to sell too cheap if ever.

Another nice side effect of a GUI is that it encourages people to stop using Poloniex as a wallet. 
I think that the GUI is a bigger deal than what a lot of people like to admit. I think it is something that has consistently made it "difficult" for the average/casual user to easily enter the Monero world and you never want to make it hard for your "customers" to buy. However with that said, it may not create as big a bang as it should right out of the gates because most of the people involved at this point have made accommodations for it and either keep their Monero on an exchange(s) or MyMonero or learned simple wallet and these people will gladly use it but they are already "in".  Unfortunately it will only be a relatively small number of people who will immediately jump in and start buying for the first time and using the new wallet. The bigger gains will come over the next few months and weeks as new people from the DMs, people newly introduced to Monero and those who have been waiting specifically for it because in their mind we're like the "only" ones without a gui wallet and now see more value and legitimacy in the project.

To some Monero may look bad because there aren't those bells and whistles so of course the devs are "incompetent" because every coin had a shiny new wallet when it first came out... "how hard can it be?".  Now, I understand there is a lot more going on here than just writing another wrapper or grabbing a complete wallet codebase and changing the captions, logo and some text and BANG, you've got a wallet. But the average person doesn't know, understand or care and we need to start thinking about how we can do a better job of relating to those people instead of just the "technophiles" which we seem to attract because of the great technology we have.

We have fantastic devs on this project, some great contributors who have provided natural leadership and now that most of the key underpinnings of this project are in place or in progress, we need to bring those people with money to spend and not a lot of technical savvy or maybe just no desire to deal with a console app into the fold, make it easy to buy, hold, send, convert to btc,make payments, do some mining, etc... do it right and they will help to push Monero into a place of prominence and drive the market cap to a point that makes it even more palatable to more industries to use without all the volatility.

Sorry for running on about this but as I said, in the grand scheme of moving Monero from an "also ran" to a leader in the ecash space I believe this is critical!

CTTE

I'm new to cryptos but how would the official GUI differ from the unoffical ones currently available like lightwallet?

It seems lightwallet is quite easy to use and opensource, is it missing something I'm not aware of?

I think it's really only missing the "Official Monero" brand name and the impression that it will be supported for the long run by the dev team.  Plus, I'm not sure exactly how fully cross platform it is... someone with more info would have to address that.  

I hope it runs on Mac OS, personally - I struggled with CLI wallet.

I am with you on this.
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October 17, 2016, 07:53:10 PM
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I mean, when the GUI is out, it is ready for non-ponies and non-fairies (read: normal people) unlike we are apparently. The potential markets are huge and the price potential is even higher because the wealthy bagholders will not bother to sell too cheap if ever.

Another nice side effect of a GUI is that it encourages people to stop using Poloniex as a wallet. 
I think that the GUI is a bigger deal than what a lot of people like to admit. I think it is something that has consistently made it "difficult" for the average/casual user to easily enter the Monero world and you never want to make it hard for your "customers" to buy. However with that said, it may not create as big a bang as it should right out of the gates because most of the people involved at this point have made accommodations for it and either keep their Monero on an exchange(s) or MyMonero or learned simple wallet and these people will gladly use it but they are already "in".  Unfortunately it will only be a relatively small number of people who will immediately jump in and start buying for the first time and using the new wallet. The bigger gains will come over the next few months and weeks as new people from the DMs, people newly introduced to Monero and those who have been waiting specifically for it because in their mind we're like the "only" ones without a gui wallet and now see more value and legitimacy in the project.

To some Monero may look bad because there aren't those bells and whistles so of course the devs are "incompetent" because every coin had a shiny new wallet when it first came out... "how hard can it be?".  Now, I understand there is a lot more going on here than just writing another wrapper or grabbing a complete wallet codebase and changing the captions, logo and some text and BANG, you've got a wallet. But the average person doesn't know, understand or care and we need to start thinking about how we can do a better job of relating to those people instead of just the "technophiles" which we seem to attract because of the great technology we have.

We have fantastic devs on this project, some great contributors who have provided natural leadership and now that most of the key underpinnings of this project are in place or in progress, we need to bring those people with money to spend and not a lot of technical savvy or maybe just no desire to deal with a console app into the fold, make it easy to buy, hold, send, convert to btc,make payments, do some mining, etc... do it right and they will help to push Monero into a place of prominence and drive the market cap to a point that makes it even more palatable to more industries to use without all the volatility.

Sorry for running on about this but as I said, in the grand scheme of moving Monero from an "also ran" to a leader in the ecash space I believe this is critical!

CTTE

I'm new to cryptos but how would the official GUI differ from the unoffical ones currently available like lightwallet?

It seems lightwallet is quite easy to use and opensource, is it missing something I'm not aware of?

I think it's really only missing the "Official Monero" brand name and the impression that it will be supported for the long run by the dev team.  Plus, I'm not sure exactly how fully cross platform it is... someone with more info would have to address that.  
legendary
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October 17, 2016, 07:51:56 PM
Glad I am not alone in missing the people who post things I really love to read.

May I plead that we keep the standards up here? This thread was way better than the BTC wall observer in politeness, lack of book-talking and well... just positive stuff.  The Monero community is admired and rightly so.

We all enjoy quality analysis and reasoned, polite, astute or fun posts. New friends are welcome, of course and good TA welcome - bullish or bearish.

But can we not encourage those who've appeared recently if they gloat and bring nothing to a nice party they were late to arrive at - and bring it down to a level which is spoiling what this thread was about - a genuine long-term interest in a really good coin that is truly fungible and private money.

I have been here for a long time and been through the troughs of despair and held (and bought regardless).  Monero has been good to me and I hope it will continue to be so. 

So let's keep it decent and show a little respect? People are watching and wondering - let's show them they are in the right place?

End of hippy love-in shit. Promise. I have run out of wine  Wink

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October 17, 2016, 07:50:11 PM

I'm new to cryptos but how would the official GUI differ from the unoffical ones currently available like lightwallet?

It seems lightwallet is quite easy to use and opensource, is it missing something I'm not aware of?

Official GUI will have everything included with it, unlike the lightwallets... runs node and wallet, etc.
full member
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October 17, 2016, 07:47:34 PM
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I mean, when the GUI is out, it is ready for non-ponies and non-fairies (read: normal people) unlike we are apparently. The potential markets are huge and the price potential is even higher because the wealthy bagholders will not bother to sell too cheap if ever.

Another nice side effect of a GUI is that it encourages people to stop using Poloniex as a wallet. 
I think that the GUI is a bigger deal than what a lot of people like to admit. I think it is something that has consistently made it "difficult" for the average/casual user to easily enter the Monero world and you never want to make it hard for your "customers" to buy. However with that said, it may not create as big a bang as it should right out of the gates because most of the people involved at this point have made accommodations for it and either keep their Monero on an exchange(s) or MyMonero or learned simple wallet and these people will gladly use it but they are already "in".  Unfortunately it will only be a relatively small number of people who will immediately jump in and start buying for the first time and using the new wallet. The bigger gains will come over the next few months and weeks as new people from the DMs, people newly introduced to Monero and those who have been waiting specifically for it because in their mind we're like the "only" ones without a gui wallet and now see more value and legitimacy in the project.

To some Monero may look bad because there aren't those bells and whistles so of course the devs are "incompetent" because every coin had a shiny new wallet when it first came out... "how hard can it be?".  Now, I understand there is a lot more going on here than just writing another wrapper or grabbing a complete wallet codebase and changing the captions, logo and some text and BANG, you've got a wallet. But the average person doesn't know, understand or care and we need to start thinking about how we can do a better job of relating to those people instead of just the "technophiles" which we seem to attract because of the great technology we have.

We have fantastic devs on this project, some great contributors who have provided natural leadership and now that most of the key underpinnings of this project are in place or in progress, we need to bring those people with money to spend and not a lot of technical savvy or maybe just no desire to deal with a console app into the fold, make it easy to buy, hold, send, convert to btc,make payments, do some mining, etc... do it right and they will help to push Monero into a place of prominence and drive the market cap to a point that makes it even more palatable to more industries to use without all the volatility.

Sorry for running on about this but as I said, in the grand scheme of moving Monero from an "also ran" to a leader in the ecash space I believe this is critical!

CTTE

I'm new to cryptos but how would the official GUI differ from the unoffical ones currently available like lightwallet?

It seems lightwallet is quite easy to use and opensource, is it missing something I'm not aware of?
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October 17, 2016, 07:46:47 PM

Once that happens and users see that bitcoin is in no way private, that is when the scale tips.


What clinched it for me was after I had yet *another* account unceremoniously shut down on me with NO warning, NO reason, NO explanation given... allegedly because of some "unapproved" coins landing in my wallet from three or four hops away.  This has happened to me already more than once.

Near as I can figure it out, it's because someone somewhere down the line must've put a bitcoin or two thru a gambling website or -- god forbid -- done some transaction on the dark web and/or run their BTC thru a simple tumbler and/or God-Knows-WTF-Else that "they" didn't like.

Mind you, it wasn't ME (pinky swear!) and my main failure, I guess, was just not paying enough attention to having to manually "clean" my own wallet in order to avoid this sort of problem.  But POINT IS *why* would I even THINK I should HAVE to do that?  The dollar bills in my pocket also have traces of cocaine on them supposedly, but am I responsible for the actions of some coke dealer somewhere?  LOL  it's ridiculous, what these "chain analysis" people apparently believe.

Anyway, yeah of course I'm an early casualty of this scenario simply because I'm a very heavy bitcoin user... several transactions a day, every day.  People who only do a couple transactions per week or less don't have the volume (*yet*) to have this trigger on them.  So the real PROBLEM is not yet very APPARENT to most people.

But it's going to come, and it's only going to get worse and worse, and when the awareness of this very real problem finally takes hold, then MONERO will be the first and best answer as the solution...


Plus I mean, think about if Hillary gets elected... the more she tries to "crackdown" on Bitcoin and force companies like coinbase to comply with stricter rules; those companies would have to follow suite and then I think people will start to see the true issues with bitcoin.
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October 17, 2016, 07:34:36 PM

Once that happens and users see that bitcoin is in no way private, that is when the scale tips.


What clinched it for me was after I had yet *another* account unceremoniously shut down on me with NO warning, NO reason, NO explanation given... allegedly because of some "unapproved" coins landing in my wallet from three or four hops away.  This has happened to me already more than once.

Near as I can figure it out, it's because someone somewhere down the line must've put a bitcoin or two thru a gambling website or -- god forbid -- done some transaction on the dark web and/or run their BTC thru a simple tumbler and/or God-Knows-WTF-Else that "they" didn't like.

Mind you, it wasn't ME (pinky swear!) and my main failure, I guess, was just not paying enough attention to having to manually "clean" my own wallet in order to avoid this sort of problem.  But POINT IS *why* would I even THINK I should HAVE to do that?  The dollar bills in my pocket also have traces of cocaine on them supposedly, but am I responsible for the actions of some coke dealer somewhere?  LOL  it's ridiculous, what these "chain analysis" people apparently believe.

Anyway, yeah of course I'm an early casualty of this scenario simply because I'm a very heavy bitcoin user... several transactions a day, every day.  People who only do a couple transactions per week or less don't have the volume (*yet*) to have this trigger on them.  So the real PROBLEM is not yet very APPARENT to most people.

But it's going to come, and it's only going to get worse and worse, and when the awareness of this very real problem finally takes hold, then MONERO will be the first and best answer as the solution...
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October 17, 2016, 07:26:44 PM

The GUI release is imminent, which means it's closer than "soon":

"the difference between soon and imminent is that soon is occurring within a short time, or quickly while imminent is about to happen, occur, or take place very soon"

I tested it today on Win10 64-bit and it works fine. Some are still having issues running it. It's a beta release, functional, but not finished.

I really love the sound of the word "imminent"... it's my new mantra...  "wallet is imminent"... "wallet is imminent"...  repeat for the next six hours!
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October 17, 2016, 07:20:36 PM
One more thing, trolls..?

Leave off Aminorex - he an order of magnitude better than those who have dared to lump him in with low-life amateur trolling scum.

Anyone linking him with any of the you-know-who types here is out of order.  He saw Monero before it was even listed on Polo. And people listen to him with good reason.

You are not worthy. 

Nuff said.

Rant over.
Agreed... I don't know of anybody that could fake his posts!
legendary
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October 17, 2016, 06:49:29 PM
It is my understanding that he went on a cruise around the world.
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