Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 987. (Read 3314350 times)

Any idea where he went? I miss his posts.

One more thing, trolls..?

Leave off Aminorex - he an order of magnitude better than those who have dared to lump him in with low-life amateur trolling scum.

Anyone linking him with any of the you-know-who types here is out of order.  He saw Monero before it was even listed on Polo. And people listen to him with good reason.

You are not worthy. 

Nuff said.

Rant over.

If Dotto calls the bottom.

As a rule it's a BUY. 

Short if you dare - my bids are still in to scoop up the cheap coins, and I am not alone.

Yep - this is true - but the volume is too good for other exchanges to not salivate over (assuming Monero is NOT going away - which it is not).

Patience - it will happen.  It's a necessity for any exchange wanting to host the top coins. Polo's rise has been stunningly well-managed and has shown the way. Others will follow - or lose out.

With the GUI news, I guess we can conclude that .0088 was the bottom. Now we are at .009924 and you can bet that this is discount price. Not sure about breaking ATH soon, but a nice green candle or two is almost guaranteed.

Apparently, it's not that easy to implement as it's not based on the BTC protocol like any other coin so it needs a bit of work to implement.

The same goes for the GUI, for any other coin it's pretty simple and straightforward but XMR is unchartered territory and it needs to be done properly from the ground up.
People often fail to see this but that's what's so great about the devs, they seem to be in it for the long run and aren't throwing out half baked goods just because the market demands it.

this may help:

https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/2346/compiling-gui-from-source-differences-by-os


On another note: monero is known and certainly appears to be a Polo baby and has been for all the time I have been aware of it. Which is a good while.
 Volume there, compared to anywhere else, speaks ,ehm , volumes as well as having a dedicated XMR / nnn trading pair on offer which is giving it elevated status at Polo. Is this an impediment to adoption by other large exchanges? Eg ' We are not supporting the 'Polo' coin? Im just looking at the volume on and on and wonder why there seems to be reluctance to get a slice of it whilst all jumped on ETH. Just jealousy and misplaced pride? Any skeletons / dodgy backroom deal rumours that I should be aware off? Just seems strange we haven't picked up a large exchange or two by now....

Could it be a "big player" (perhaps even on an institutional level) which feels threatened by the prospects of XMR?

@CTTE

I agree with everything you said.

I think that the GUI is a bigger deal than what a lot of people like to admit. I think it is something that has consistently made it "difficult" for the average/casual user to easily enter the Monero world and you never want to make it hard for your "customers" to buy. However with that said, it may not create as big a bang as it should right out of the gates because most of the people involved at this point have made accommodations for it and either keep their Monero on an exchange(s) or MyMonero or learned simple wallet and these people will gladly use it but they are already "in".  Unfortunately it will only be a relatively small number of people who will immediately jump in and start buying for the first time and using the new wallet. The bigger gains will come over the next few months and weeks as new people from the DMs, people newly introduced to Monero and those who have been waiting specifically for it because in their mind we're like the "only" ones without a gui wallet and now see more value and legitimacy in the project.

To some Monero may look bad because there aren't those bells and whistles so of course the devs are "incompetent" because every coin had a shiny new wallet when it first came out... "how hard can it be?".  Now, I understand there is a lot more going on here than just writing another wrapper or grabbing a complete wallet codebase and changing the captions, logo and some text and BANG, you've got a wallet. But the average person doesn't know, understand or care and we need to start thinking about how we can do a better job of relating to those people instead of just the "technophiles" which we seem to attract because of the great technology we have.

We have fantastic devs on this project, some great contributors who have provided natural leadership and now that most of the key underpinnings of this project are in place or in progress, we need to bring those people with money to spend and not a lot of technical savvy or maybe just no desire to deal with a console app into the fold, make it easy to buy, hold, send, convert to btc,make payments, do some mining, etc... do it right and they will help to push Monero into a place of prominence and drive the market cap to a point that makes it even more palatable to more industries to use without all the volatility.

Sorry for running on about this but as I said, in the grand scheme of moving Monero from an "also ran" to a leader in the ecash space I believe this is critical!

CTTE

Here you go:

https://github.com/mbg033/monero-core/tree/build-docs-win#on-windows

The bigger issue is the killer app portion of XMR but even more specifically it is the XMR killer utility (use case) that seeps into the consciousness of the average bitcoin user.

Once that happens and users see that bitcoin is in no way private, that is when the scale tips.

Can someone post me a link to the windows GUI build instructions again? I know someone posted it in the past few days, but Ilya's github Readme.md is still missing the Windows instructions/dependencies.

Thanks, I tried trawling back pages, but between this and the main thread, I can't find it!

I think bugs shouldn't be a problem, after all Jaxx is also coming out

Good thing I read this thread regularly, because out of context this is very strange. 

This was discussed in the dev meeting yesterday.  It was alluded to that XP would work...but there may be an issue with Windows Server.

Some bits of the GUI library that's being used (QT), require hardware acceleration.  Most machines built in the last 10 years or so should have no problem with that.  But there are occurrences where acceleration is disabled or not available.  This is pretty rare though - and I think it may even be possible to work around the QT libraries dependence on it.

So it's possible that the first beta's may only work on 98% of all machines.  

And if you're part of that 2%, the Jaxx wallet may be an option.

I don´t even think there is a big issue at all, fundamentals like acceptance, fiat exchanges will come over the coming months and spread further... this will bring marketing without the need of a marketing executive like Dash.

Also in hindsight now ( im not experienced in trading ) price has to go up and come down, difference in the coins is just the timescale and event´s or non-events. If Zcash does not take all of the sun ( i doubt it will besides some early hype at the launch ) we will likely rise soon again... maybe beyond ATH when the GUI is stable and shiny, RingCT hit maybe even Multi-Sig works...

There is so much to come for XMR : Trezor, Jaxx, paybee out of beta some day all we need to do is be patient

Another nice side effect of a GUI is that it encourages people to stop using Poloniex as a wallet. 

What do you think is bigger issue with XMR? Lack of investments perhaps? I mean, Monero's market capitalization is merely around 100 million (give or take.
The shorter is just one guy with multiple accounts so it should be easy to overcome if there is someone investing real paper money into it.

With all the moaning about GUI we have seen in the last months price should easily sky-rocket beyond ATH... but i 100% doubt that this will happen... as the GUI is not that big of an issue "shorters" like to make it.