Yikes! When you when know too much, one does not simply leave the cult ! 
Yes, time to put the tinfoil hat on!
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Yes, time to put the tinfoil hat on!
"Personal issues".
https://dashtalk.org/threads/kyle-hagan-is-no-longer-part-of-the-development-team.3225/
https://dashtalk.org/threads/kyle-hagan-is-no-longer-part-of-the-development-team.3225/
Whoa, that's half the original team. Now DashcoinDark is truly a one-man-scam.
The cultists' reactions have been predictably dark and threatening. EG:
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https://dashtalk.org/threads/kyle-hagan-is-no-longer-part-of-the-development-team.3225/#post-33461
I understand that this is a personal issue but the tone of the language used by Kyle in IRC made many people in the community including myself upset and angry. Kyle needs to understand that many have invested their time and money in this technology and any threat to this investment will not be taken lightly nor will be ignored. A person who has a known location, known identity, young children and other responsibilities should act smarter and avoid making unwanted attention by getting drunk and talking shit. That's all I can say publicly about this issue and urge Kyle Hagan be smart about what he does and talks in the future.
I understand that this is a personal issue but the tone of the language used by Kyle in IRC made many people in the community including myself upset and angry. Kyle needs to understand that many have invested their time and money in this technology and any threat to this investment will not be taken lightly nor will be ignored. A person who has a known location, known identity, young children and other responsibilities should act smarter and avoid making unwanted attention by getting drunk and talking shit. That's all I can say publicly about this issue and urge Kyle Hagan be smart about what he does and talks in the future.
Yikes! When you when know too much, one does not simply leave the cult !
Internetape still has 100k(He gave away some, but had at minimum 100k after the giveaways were over) coins if we count one of his previous posts on the matter, and he was a darkcoin dev during all this.
I believe he said on one drunken night on IRC that he had dumped all shortly after he was fired from the team, and also Evan hinted at that being the case. Obviously that's no proof of anything, but everything seemed to match.
Why was he fired? If he was drunk then I probably wouldnt believe him.
"Personal issues".
https://dashtalk.org/threads/kyle-hagan-is-no-longer-part-of-the-development-team.3225/
Ah I see.
Internetape still has 100k(He gave away some, but had at minimum 100k after the giveaways were over) coins if we count one of his previous posts on the matter, and he was a darkcoin dev during all this.
I believe he said on one drunken night on IRC that he had dumped all shortly after he was fired from the team, and also Evan hinted at that being the case. Obviously that's no proof of anything, but everything seemed to match.
Why was he fired? If he was drunk then I probably wouldnt believe him.
"Personal issues".
https://dashtalk.org/threads/kyle-hagan-is-no-longer-part-of-the-development-team.3225/
Internetape still has 100k(He gave away some, but had at minimum 100k after the giveaways were over) coins if we count one of his previous posts on the matter, and he was a darkcoin dev during all this.
I believe he said on one drunken night on IRC that he had dumped all shortly after he was fired from the team, and also Evan hinted at that being the case. Obviously that's no proof of anything, but everything seemed to match.
Why was he fired? If he was drunk then I probably wouldnt believe him.
Internetape still has 100k(He gave away some, but had at minimum 100k after the giveaways were over) coins if we count one of his previous posts on the matter, and he was a darkcoin dev during all this.
I believe he said on one drunken night on IRC that he had dumped all shortly after he was fired from the team, and also Evan hinted at that being the case. Obviously that's no proof of anything, but everything seemed to match.
No, distribution concerning the instamine is just speculation. Internetape still has 100k(He gave away some, but had at minimum 100k after the giveaways were over) coins if we count one of his previous posts on the matter, and he was a darkcoin dev during all this. Evan had at least 300k coins. So the distribution is just speculation, and even then it still falls under the, "The coins of the main instaminers were kept and not sold/dumped".
As others have also said, Evan works almost full time on Dash for the moment since back in 2014. He was able to most likely do this from the money he gained from the instamine and various pumps/dumps, etc.
Which doesn't hugely bother me to be honest. He's turning out a great coin which has real-world utility and provides a decent ROI. If he's funding his work with mined coins I much prefer this situation to him having never made DASH at all and working in a bank.
Right I'm outta here....hopefully some more interesting technical debate tomorrow rather than done-to-death instamine shizzle.
Well we'll see. Talking real world utility, dash isn't a currency, and can't be because of it' masternodes. Just saying. Yea, investing/making a ROI is great if you follow through some pumps and dumps and that's what I'm doing. The best that Dash can do is become a investment vehicle of some sorts, Though I highly doubt that would happen outside the altcoin section, as no "legitimate" investor would touch a instamined coin like dash, but each to their own, eh?
Yes, to the technicals. I do find them more interesting than the same instamine talk, though I feel obliged to answer on the topic.
No, distribution concerning the instamine is just speculation. Internetape still has 100k(He gave away some, but had at minimum 100k after the giveaways were over) coins if we count one of his previous posts on the matter, and he was a darkcoin dev during all this. Evan had at least 300k coins. So the distribution is just speculation, and even then it still falls under the, "The coins of the main instaminers were kept and not sold/dumped".
As others have also said, Evan works almost full time on Dash for the moment since back in 2014. He was able to most likely do this from the money he gained from the instamine and various pumps/dumps, etc.
Which doesn't hugely bother me to be honest. He's turning out a great coin which has real-world utility and provides a decent ROI. If he's funding his work with mined coins I much prefer this situation to him having never made DASH at all and working in a bank.
Right I'm outta here....hopefully some more interesting technical debate tomorrow rather than done-to-death instamine shizzle.
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(By saying the instamine wasn't a scam/dishonest)
quick heads up....
So you think it was a scam/dishonest?
I suspect they might have been 'creative' with aspects of the launch, but also suspect they might have just fucked it up a bit. The truth is I don't know for sure so I'm certainly not going to scream 'INSTAMINE' and bang on and on and on (yawn fucking oh my god yawn) about it. What's more important to me is Evan's conduct since the launch, the subsequent distribution of coins, easy mining/availability of coins for months, offered airdrop etc which ultimately render anything around the launch a non-issue as far as I'm concerned.
I've pretty much said all this already in this thread.
Well, ok, so it was neither a scam nor dishonest. They disclosed everything and were transparent and everyone could chose to still trust Evan or not.
Wow, you really let your investments do the talking, and learned absolutely nothing. Whats a dishonest, scam instamine in Dash to making a few bucks over pumps and dumps right?. Anyway, goodbye, if anyone's interested just check my previous post history on this thread to see the information. Or google it, w/e.
Friends?
Don't know if I would go that far, but I guess I could let bygones be bygones.
deal
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(By saying the instamine wasn't a scam/dishonest)
quick heads up....
So you think it was a scam/dishonest?
I suspect they might have been 'creative' with aspects of the launch, but also suspect they might have just fucked it up a bit. The truth is I don't know for sure so I'm certainly not going to scream 'INSTAMINE' and bang on and on and on (yawn fucking oh my god yawn) about it. What's more important to me is Evan's conduct since the launch, the subsequent distribution of coins, easy mining/availability of coins for months, offered airdrop etc which ultimately render anything around the launch a non-issue as far as I'm concerned.
I've pretty much said all this already in this thread.
Well, ok, so it was neither a scam nor dishonest. They disclosed everything and were transparent and everyone could chose to still trust Evan or not.
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(By saying the instamine wasn't a scam/dishonest)
quick heads up....
So you think it was a scam/dishonest?
I suspect they might have been 'creative' with aspects of the launch, but also suspect they might have just fucked it up a bit. The truth is I don't know for sure so I'm certainly not going to scream 'INSTAMINE' and bang on and on and on (yawn fucking oh my god yawn) about it. What's more important to me is Evan's conduct since the launch, the subsequent distribution of coins, easy mining/availability of coins for months, offered airdrop etc which ultimately render anything around the launch a non-issue as far as I'm concerned.
I've pretty much said all this already in this thread.
No, distribution concerning the instamine is just speculation. Internetape still has 100k(He gave away some, but had at minimum 100k after the giveaways were over) coins if we count one of his previous posts on the matter, and he was a darkcoin dev during all this. Evan had at least 300k coins. So the distribution is just speculation, and even then it still likely falls under the, "The coins of the main instaminers were kept and not sold/dumped, as we see almost no posts of evan selling/giving away coins".
As others have also said, Evan works almost full time on Dash for the moment since back in 2014. He was able to most likely do this from the money he gained from the instamine and various pumps/dumps, etc.
Friends?
Don't know if I would go that far, but I guess I could let bygones be bygones.
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(By saying the instamine wasn't a scam/dishonest)
quick heads up....
You said, "Even if they did deliberately exclude windows I don't see this as particularly unethical, it's just the way they chose to launch"
That by itself wouldn't have been an issue.
Which is what I meant. We were talking specifically about mining, not the launch in it's entirety, as you well know.
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(By saying the instamine wasn't a scam/dishonest)
quick heads up....
So you think it was a scam/dishonest?
I suspect they might have been 'creative' with aspects of the launch, but also suspect they might have just fucked it up a bit. The truth is I don't know for sure so I'm certainly not going to scream 'INSTAMINE' and bang on and on and on (yawn fucking oh my god yawn) about it. What's more important to me is Evan's conduct since the launch, the subsequent distribution of coins, easy mining/availability of coins for months, offered airdrop etc which ultimately render anything around the launch a non-issue as far as I'm concerned.
I've pretty much said all this already in this thread.
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(By saying the instamine wasn't a scam/dishonest)
quick heads up....
You said, "Even if they did deliberately exclude windows I don't see this as particularly unethical, it's just the way they chose to launch"
That by itself wouldn't have been an issue. But, they deliberately cut the coin supply and block rewards(Which probably meant they had accumulated a lot of coins from the instamine and wanted to make it more valuable). Also, to show you just how bad this was, as I said in my earlier post, dash/darkcoins name was Xcoin back then. It had no future, no goals, and had nothing about anonymity. It was just released as a random clone of Bitcoin.
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(By saying the instamine wasn't a scam/dishonest)
quick heads up....
So you think it was a scam/dishonest?
Yeah, right 
Nice ad hominem.
I am an investor and unlikely crypto afficionado (unlikely, as I am the end user type of guy, no coder or IT guy) and when I read about that instamine story, I did not care at all about Evan, I did not know him. I was initially worried and then I thought "well, he messed it up, but ok, let`s move on, as he seems to be honest and the DRK guys are not too worried either". That was almost a year ago. During that time, Evan kept delivering and seems to me to be a nice competent guy. It has been a year during which everybody and their mom could have mined or bought DRK/DASH. Even I was able to do it.
By the way: I am also rather impressed by the XMR devs and have some XMR as well, as this is rational investor behavior to diversify your portfolio, unlike fanboys who put all eggs in one basket or have signatures showing they have a single affiliation to a single coin - that`s cultish behavior if you ask me.
Nice ad hominem.
I am an investor and unlikely crypto afficionado (unlikely, as I am the end user type of guy, no coder or IT guy) and when I read about that instamine story, I did not care at all about Evan, I did not know him. I was initially worried and then I thought "well, he messed it up, but ok, let`s move on, as he seems to be honest and the DRK guys are not too worried either". That was almost a year ago. During that time, Evan kept delivering and seems to me to be a nice competent guy. It has been a year during which everybody and their mom could have mined or bought DRK/DASH. Even I was able to do it.
By the way: I am also rather impressed by the XMR devs and have some XMR as well, as this is rational investor behavior to diversify your portfolio, unlike fanboys who put all eggs in one basket or have signatures showing they have a single affiliation to a single coin - that`s cultish behavior if you ask me.
Thanks.
I have been called both a "frothing nutjob" and now a "fanboy" in this thread, so if nothing else, my skin is thicker for it. So, thanks again.
Unlike you, I wouldn't automatically forgive the devs of the single coin I have focused on since swimming through the sea of filth called Altcoins if they were to completely deceive the community and then say "Oops, my/our bad."
Way to take it personally when I posted my "ad hominem."
"frothing nutjob" yeah sorry about that. it was after you called me an "over-caffeinated teenager" if i remember. Friends?
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(By saying the instamine wasn't a scam/dishonest)
quick heads up....
Easy enough for your small brain to understand?
OK, and at this point I'll let you think you've triumphed in that little exchange.
Classic stuff.
Hey not my fault you're arguing over something that's fact. Your opinion on the matter either show just how sadistic you are(By saying the instamine wasn't a scam/dishonest) or just how much money you've invested in Dash. Heads up, I own dashes or coins or whatever. But, I know the difference right and wrong, scam and legit, honestly and dishhonesty. Dash's instamine was wrong, dishonest, basically a scam. There's nothing to counter it with the abundance evidence (I used to try and think of ways that the instamine could have been accidental, now I know it was likely intended).
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