Topic: XMR/AEON Developer Smooth Investigation - page 22. (Read 20923 times)

He's listed as a developer on Monero ANN and Aeon ANN, what do you mean he should disclose his interests? Maybe put a disclaimer in his signature "I hold and help develop two (non-scam) Cryptonote coins, you may find this information relevant in the context of me calling out [insert-your-favorite-scam-here]"?  

Kind of interested as to why smooth chose to throw Bitcoin-XT in with the likes of DASH and BCN. How is XT a scam or being shilled?

FTFY.

smooth surely unethical and unprofessional that he trolling competitors thread instead of developing his own coin, worse is that his own coin being neglected as he invest in other coin. i wonder how monero holder can accept this

EDIT : Im selling my monero coin now, at least i still got profit. seeing this i fear monero will reach its lowest price.

Is it possible?  That would certainly be a win for 50% of BCT users with integrity that actually want to forward crypto with intelligent debate and ethical / professional coin teams.

I've always fully disclosed my interests, and also explained my reasons for posting this, so people have fair chance to make their own mind up. That's my whole point, you never do that, whether it's trying to discredit your larger competitors with 1000s of repetitive posts over long periods of time, or now quietly taking over your smaller competitors and building them up with no full disclosure of your conflicting interests with the communities involved - you never disclose anything that an ethical person would do - those kind of people are usually the scammers, hence this thread.

Lets petition to get this smooth dickwad banned..

On the topic of conflict of interest, Mr blobafett2 or blockafett or whatever the fuck you are calling yourself these days, listen carefully.

As a long time active and aggressive Dash supporter and investor you stand to gain if you can discredit me and the "competing" projects that I happen to be associated with. You especially stand to gain if you can muzzle me and then Dash supporters can then continue unchallenged scamming new investors victims by hiding the instamine or making false or irrelevant claims about it such as "the community voted not to relaunch" (see above) or "it doesn't matter because it was redistributed" (again, false even if true but actually false and false).

So if you don't believe people with conflicts of interest should criticize others, then STFU and GTFO.  Or at least create a sock puppet or something when you are doing it so you don't look quite so catastrophically stupid.

I agree, I think he's vicious and really strong in words game.

He love endless pseudo-debat. Always play with words to subtily make them say what he need to say.

He clearly have an agenda, and viciously, like to play the victim, crying here and there. And trying to convince that there is a complot or something, we have nothing to hide.

He's nefarious, and love taking the role of the heroe saving the world.

He's a pathetic psycotic Trollero, and don't understand what is ethic and profesionalism.
And lot of Trollero suporter think it's normal, because they all have nothing more to do than spitting on other coin threads (Because they have quite nothing on their road map...)

I agree with that.

An easy thing to do with Smooth would be to catalog his literally 1000's of anti Dash posts in his long and tedious post history, which boil down to maybe just 5 or 6 criticisms he recycles.  That is obviously someone working to disrupt and discredit another coin way-over any normal level that could be excused as 'honest concern'.   And with his obvious vested interest as the Dev of a competitor and how he does this to all his larger competitors, you have to be pretty brave to claim he's innocently trying to help people.

Here's what actually happened. Someone on the Dash thread claimed that "the community voted not to relaunch". Now being a student of the Dash scam history, I found that surprising since I had never seen any evidence of it. Of course, it is patently absurd that a few dozen extreme early adopters voting not to relaunch after 2 billions coins were mined in 0.2 seconds or whatever it was would legitimatize it, so the argument would be false even if true, but in fact it seems to be false and false.

Now I happen to be willing to call out the Dash scammers on their bullshit because I'm not a party to this whole green wall of silence that exists around here were "devs" of scam coins don't criticize other scam coins because everyone is better off if you just keep quiet and scam-and-let-scam.

The result of me calling out of their bullshit was personal attacks against me, against every project I've ever been associated with going back to building a firetruck out of tinkertoys some years ago, and against my pet cricket. Of course this sort of behavior is going to result in many posts, in which I might add, essentially all of my posts (except perhaps when I responded directly to the baseless accusation of, and this is an actual quote, "running a scam") was on-topic on the subject of what did happen and did not happen with the Dash instamine and the community early adopters instaminers-and-whales (Ding!) who then decided to take the instamine and run with it, but now want it kept quiet.

It's really quite simple why they have a problem with me. I've never been involved with any scam of any kind. No scam businesses, no scam coins, no scam loans, no scam anything. No project I've ever been involved with has a premine, ninjamine, ninja-turtle mine, instamine, or any other kind of rip off or fraud. Despite false accusations from Dash supporters rabid dogs to the contrary, my forum trust is not bought, it was earned through honest dealings. I've never had any other forum account, sock puppet, nick or identity (other than the 'aeon' account that was handed to me by the previous developer and I use only to update the OP), and no one else has ever controlled this account since I registered it in 2011. There is no legitimate issue of scamming or trustworthiness or trickery. They simply don't like that I call out their bullshit.

Here's a public service announcement for X-coin/Darkcoin/Dash, Bytecoin, Vanillacoin, Bitcoin XT shills, and all the the rest of the scammers I've criticized and will continue to criticize:

If you want me to stop calling out your bullshit, stop bullshitting

As far as I can see smooth raises important issues and debates all who engage him with facts and reason and evidence.

I appreciate his efforts to educate people about scams.

No, Smooth posted about his latest theme of Dash "going nowhere" 28 times in the last 24 hrs on the Dash main thread, in tandem with the loudest evangelist of your coin, Icebreaker, who has been spamming the main Dash thread daily for weeks - it's becoming impossible to have any kind of conversation there due to their spam coming from people representing your community, take a look and scroll through a few pages:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12124438

Like you, Smooth also asked wanted censorship of my point, saying it was off-topic to point out the obvious motive of his attempts to crash all discussion of Dash on BCT.


This is worth pointing out because it's obvious he is just on a mission to disrupt Dash, no dev will post 28 times a day on a competitor he thinks it's going nowhere, while his own thread is empty.

Then the other point is his involvement with AEON - why haven't Smooth's dual-interests now in Monero and Aeon been officially disclosed or where is this for both coins? (i.e. not in the OP...)  To what extent are the Monero community aware that Smooth is building-out Aeon with Monero and BBR features and with personal control of 2.5% of it's supply and whatever he has purchased, 2 very similar coins, with AEON volume on Bittrex today being $ 4,223 compared to Monero's $ 899? (using Bittrex because it's a reflection of the market demand when XMR & AEON are traded at the same exchange)

Without official disclosure of that, again it looks like he is concealing his conflicting interests.

Pegasus I get that you have your coin you support and Smooth has some involvement with it, but I am more concerned with Smooth personally than anything else, surely people can recognize his behaviour and see big problems - if nothing else, what about destroying the conversation on competitor coins main threads through repeating the same flash phrases to push people's buttons 100's of times over months, instead of an intelligent debate.

Regarding Smooth being a "dev" of your coin, looking at his github, less than 1% of commits are from him and nothing for the last 4 months - The idea of him earning the title "dev" there is pretty weak, is his main work is Aeon and he looks quite busy on that, his claim to being an Aeon dev looks a lot more valid.

Something this forum has been getting wrong recently is lack of real rules. I believe in Liberty but Liberty is not Anarchy, society needs rules to function.

You can't get rid of newbie accounts easily (though you could make a minimum posting in a newbie section)

But what you can do is ban without mercy long term accounts that spread lies constantly.

This forum really needs to clean up this mess, this forum is getting a bad reputation.

For those of you wondering, this is the penalty for anyone who continually points out the flaws in flawed currencies like Dash, Bytecoin, and VanillaCoin.  
  
So if you don't want to be character assassinated, please don't point out the gaping flaws in the ethics, launches, and distributions of scams that exist only to enrich those who got in early at your expense.  
  
Again, the mods need to delete this topic.  It serves no purpose but to cause issues in the community.

Professional trolls like Smooth are the biggest scumbags here...
Because they have enough in-depth knowledge to "appear" objective to n00bs...
And are experts are subtle fallacious reasoning that "appears" authoritative...
But their agendas are to impune and destroy the hard work of other Devs.

The Alt Forum has been effectively destroyed by Smooth and his Monero shills.

Keep exposing this c*cksucker... and I'll keep bumping this thread.

Oh so he posted specifically in a topic entitled "Dash is going nowhere"? 
 
Did he go to the official Dash topic and start unwantedly bashing Dash to its supporters?  No?
 
Because if not, I think you are being whiny and worried too much about the opinions of smooth and his activity. 
 
Perhaps you should pay the same attention to fixing the glaring (and unfixable) issues with the currencies you mention.  This topic is silly and needs to be moved to "Meta" at best, and removed entirely at worst.

In the last 24 hours, Smooth has spammed 28 posts on the Dash thread about how he thinks "Dash is going nowhere".

On his main coin's thread in the same time, Smooth has posted nothing.  In fact, there are only 2 posts today.

So the first obvious question, why would a developer post on a competitors coins so many times, if he thinks it's going nowhere and bump their thread, leaving his own thread with only 2 posts for the whole day?  If the coin is going nowhere, what is the value in anyone pointing that out, let alone the core dev of a competitor?

Second question, as the dev of a competitor, he never mentions his massive conflict of interest because of his vested interest in the competitor coin he is representing, and the fact he is posting the same accusations more times than anyone else is posting about Dash.

I think these are fair questions and trying to sweep these concerns away doesn't really wash for anyone interested trying to keep crypto open, accountable, transparent and honest.

Saying I support Bytecoin is kindah ridiculous and I have a experience investigating scammers https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/moolah-scam-on-mintpal-reporting-missing-coins-824211.  If you don't agree, it would help to explain why, trying to undermine the credibility of a valid debate with feigned ridicule and hyperbole isn't going to work with me though, just so you are aware.

Wow, smooth look at this! 
 
You earned your own dedicated troll account designed specifically to attack you. 
 
In case you are actually an impressionable drive-by lurker and are reading this topic, I urge you to realize the OP is a shill for Dash or Bytecoin, is butthurt figuratively and literally at Monero's open and honest development and is resorting to whining about his hurt feelings when one of the Monero developers calls out his favorite scams on being scams. 
 
Nothing to see here.  Your time would literally be better spent masturbating to .jpgs from 1995 that don't even fill up most of your screen anymore. 
 
Good luck and god speed. 
 
P.S. Can I get my own dedicated troll-attack account next?  I'm a huge narcissist so I'd love to read someone talking shit about me.

The guy is trolling threads constantly while he cloned bytecoin and tries to sell it as innovation.