[XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency - page 188.

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Quote from: poiuytr4 on July 07, 2013, 07:03:21 PM

Quote from: Sunny King on July 07, 2013, 06:55:09 PM

Those primes are large, not astronomically large as Mersenne primes of course, but there is no such thing as a 'prime table' that you can look it up at this scale, as primes are abundant.

Yes, but clearly it takes less computing power to 'look up' a prime than to use the client software to create it then to check if it is part of a chain.
If you have created a client that can manufacture primes then it is easy to use the client to manufacture them and then store them in a database for analysis.
I am pretty sure that there is such a thing as a 'prime table'. It is a database of known primes.

http://primes.utm.edu/primes/search.php
I am currently investigating this issue among others.

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Quote from: poiuytr4 on July 07, 2013, 07:03:21 PM

Quote from: Sunny King on July 07, 2013, 06:55:09 PM

Those primes are large, not astronomically large as Mersenne primes of course, but there is no such thing as a 'prime table' that you can look it up at this scale, as primes are abundant.

Yes, but clearly it takes less computing power to 'look up' a prime than to use the client software to create it then to check if it is part of a chain.
If you have created a client that can manufacture primes then it is easy to use the client to manufacture them and then store them in a database for analysis.
I am pretty sure that there is such a thing as a 'prime table'. It is a database of known primes.

Ok. Thinking about it there probably isn't a complete database of all known primes but that doesn't mean that there isn't a weakness in your pow scheme.
Is your client software the most efficient way of computing these primes and prime chains and verifying them or can a more efficient mathematical way be produced? I bet you can't show me a mathematical proof of this. Maybe you can??
Whereas the SHA 256 hashing function used in bitcoin has undergone a pretty thorough mathematical analysis by some very clever people over the years.
I'm just being the devil's advocate but these questions need to be asked.

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Though I would share the primecoind runs and builds fine on Mac.

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Ok, after several hours (start to mining since the launch) i've received my first block Tongue

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Quote from: Vorksholk on July 07, 2013, 07:00:56 PM

Quote from: BitCoiner2012 on July 07, 2013, 06:57:50 PM

Quote from: TheMightyX on July 07, 2013, 06:29:25 PM

Quote from: BazkieBumpercar on July 07, 2013, 06:26:52 PM

It must have been asked before, but so many pages.. so here goes; how would I (solo)mine this? Can I just use cgminer?

click help -> debug window.
then on the console tab, type 'setgenerate true'.
it wont tell you you are mining, but if you check your process explorer, you will see all of your cores maxed.

Was confused, but now I see this. I also see the CPU is maxed, so I'm mining now? Only way to know is find a block, righht? Hmm..

You can run "getmininginfo" or "getprimespersec" in the console (Help>Debug Console).

So I am getting "7 primes per sec", which sounds pretty awful. Get block in... Wink

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Several people request how to extract the primes in blocks, so I have updated the 2nd post with tutorial.

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https://r.honeygain.me/XEDDM2B07C

Getting 0 primespersec Cry

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mining with ca. 100pps since block 220. Still nothing found.. bad luck I guess?

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How do I know when I"ve mined a block? I have several computers running, but I don't see anything so far...

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Quote from: TheSpiral on July 07, 2013, 07:05:42 PM

I just use 7-zip. When you unzip the installer, you'll get some random variable folders, src folder, daemon, and qt client... Keep whatever you want, I just took the daemon and qt.exe

ok well so much for not installing anything into windows for altcoins again- I installed 7-zip.

Neither the internal .zip in windows or win-rar would get it they're too busy being "helpful".

Thanks for the tip.

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What a weird thing, I had to run on only 4 of 8 cores on my FX 8350 to get to 19 primes per second only, with all 8 cores it goes to 8 primes per second Huh

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Quote from: coinerd on July 07, 2013, 07:01:52 PM

Quote from: TheSpiral on July 07, 2013, 06:55:45 PM

Quote from: coinerd on July 07, 2013, 06:47:26 PM

Can someone post the QT files for windows please? and the daemon, if there's one in that installer package.

It's in the first post. Just unzip the installer, they're both there.
One block mined so far.

what do you "unzip the installer" with?

I just use 7-zip. When you unzip the installer, you'll get some random variable folders, src folder, daemon, and qt client... Keep whatever you want, I just took the daemon and qt.exe

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Quote from: Sunny King on July 07, 2013, 06:55:09 PM

Those primes are large, not astronomically large as Mersenne primes of course, but there is no such thing as a 'prime table' that you can look it up at this scale, as primes are abundant.

Yes, but clearly it takes less computing power to 'look up' a prime than to use the client software to create it then to check if it is part of a chain.
If you have created a client that can manufacture primes then it is easy to use the client to manufacture them and then store them in a database for analysis.
I am pretty sure that there is such a thing as a 'prime table'. It is a database of known primes.

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Quote from: TheSpiral on July 07, 2013, 06:55:45 PM

Quote from: coinerd on July 07, 2013, 06:47:26 PM

Can someone post the QT files for windows please? and the daemon, if there's one in that installer package.

It's in the first post. Just unzip the installer, they're both there.
One block mined so far.

what do you "unzip the installer" with?

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Quote from: BitCoiner2012 on July 07, 2013, 06:57:50 PM

Quote from: TheMightyX on July 07, 2013, 06:29:25 PM

Quote from: BazkieBumpercar on July 07, 2013, 06:26:52 PM

It must have been asked before, but so many pages.. so here goes; how would I (solo)mine this? Can I just use cgminer?

click help -> debug window.
then on the console tab, type 'setgenerate true'.
it wont tell you you are mining, but if you check your process explorer, you will see all of your cores maxed.

Was confused, but now I see this. I also see the CPU is maxed, so I'm mining now? Only way to know is find a block, righht? Hmm..

You can run "getmininginfo" or "getprimespersec" in the console (Help>Debug Console).

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Quote from: TheMightyX on July 07, 2013, 06:29:25 PM

Quote from: BazkieBumpercar on July 07, 2013, 06:26:52 PM

It must have been asked before, but so many pages.. so here goes; how would I (solo)mine this? Can I just use cgminer?

click help -> debug window.
then on the console tab, type 'setgenerate true'.
it wont tell you you are mining, but if you check your process explorer, you will see all of your cores maxed.

Was confused, but now I see this. I also see the CPU is maxed, so I'm mining now? Only way to know is find a block, righht? Hmm..

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Quote from: coinerd on July 07, 2013, 06:47:26 PM

Can someone post the QT files for windows please? and the daemon, if there's one in that installer package.

It's in the first post. Just unzip the installer, they're both there.
One block mined so far.

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Quote from: mastadonballs on July 07, 2013, 06:44:20 PM

just mined my first block...

awesome. awesome to the max

My only regret is that I have... Boneitis.

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Vires in Numeris

is there any way we can join a mining pool a la bitcoin?
Id like to get a least a fraction of a block when they are awarded vs nothing.

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Those primes are large, not astronomically large as Mersenne primes of course, but there is no such thing as a 'prime table' that you can look it up at this scale, as primes are abundant.

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