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legendary
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Wow.

I was offline for a few days and I can't believe the level this has dropped to.

The Qibuck community was supposed to be a good thing. It is ridiculous that it came to this level.

I have dealt with Cryptonewbie on many many different occasions and the things being said here are preposterous.

To me it looks like the Qibucks team came in and destroyed XSI. I understand that there are details that need to be worked out but blasting all of these things in the main thread and basically yelling at each other just makes everyone look like children.

I respect the Qibucks team and what you do but the behavior here has pushed XSI to a whole new depth that I am unsure it can ever recover from.


All I have is one word.

Tragic.



If you see above I only posted my recommendations to make XSI successful and was prepared to help out a lot, all I am saying basically with the current deal in hand for what we paid for it wasn't enough for my whole team to get involved, time and money wise..we needed more help form the XSI community and from Cryptonewbie. I never put anyone down or insulted anyone. I have been polite in all my posts and have openly said I take responsibility for rushing into a deal that didn't give QBK Team a fair deal. Too much was being asked of us for too little and it was not viable. That is my case I stated. I never came here to insult anyone's person. On the contrary I have been blamed and insulted and still I do not blame anyone for that. All we have requested is for a refund which we have received no reply or a way forward to have made XSI a great success. But for our team to be expected to use our all our manpower and financial resources to bail out this coin was way too much a price we could pay at such an early stage in our development, we expected a little more help. We stand currently at almost 3 btc loss at the current time. I do sincerely hope XS can recover as we also hold XSI and that this boils over. Like I said in my previous posts, there was no malice or ill intent meant towards any person or your coin. Also what we put here as our ideas we put here because Cryptoniewbie asked me to post my proposal here in PM. Then the firing line started.  If XSI COMMUNITY really is interested in salvaging their coin I would still be interested to help but there would have to be realistic measures taking place. It's not a one fix band aid job.


Here is the excerpt of my pm to Cryptonewbie before I posted here, once I posted here I was attacked..

Re: XSI
« Sent to: qiwoman2 on: September 07, 2014, 02:42:55 PM »
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Quote from: qiwoman2 on September 07, 2014, 09:07:26 AM
Hello I still don't have internet, it is taking longer for us to get settled than we have,anticipated so of course I cannot work properly till we get the net should be done by Wednesday..

O.K These are some of my drastic measure proposals because we need to work out something fair both fr my team who now have to put in extra hours to try to salvage your coin plus for all the holders of XSI as well..

1. We paid 3 btc so technically we are 3 btc MINUS in our coffers but with an extra workload added so as you are directly benefiting by creating a new coin and basically we are helping you create that coin, we should at least be given  2 btc worth of the new coin which we will use as an asset to start proof of bagholding XSI. I think this is both for fair for our team and the bagholders of XSI you are leaving behind. Otherwise my team have no incentive at the moment to put in the extra work to promote XSI when we own only a very small bag of XSI ourselves. I did buy another 60k myself but still we are small bagholders which for the amount of work we have to put in is negligible, Because at the moment we are using QBK assets to prop p a coin we barely have enough equity in.

2. We will put it across to all the XSI peeps to donate say 10% of their holding into a stability fund which we will take off the market. We will use the babies that fund creates aka stake to generate more proof of baghold assets like buy hashlets cloud mining.

3. We will create like for our coin 25 founder positions that will get perks every 90 days for bagholding.

4. We won't give monthly bagholder dividends though until we have at least 20-30 btc worth of assets behind XSI.

5. We will run join incentives with QIBUCK to generate more demand for XSI as reward systems for both parties buying in each coin..

Please let me know what you think so far? Smiley

Also we can hold a SKYPE meeting next week once I get internet to discuss with Sam also my other founder of QBK maybe we can brainstorm some other ideas too..

blessings

ellie

Hey Ellie,

There are some very large sell orders on Bittrex (588k at 310 sat) which could help your team/community buy up a huge share of the coin very cheap.  The ideas you mentioned all seem to have a lot of potential.  I have been doing everything in my power to keep things going, but at this point its becoming very difficult to keep things moving in the right direction.

Potcoin keeps asking me for ways they can help promote us, so maybe you or your team should share some thoughts with them to help get XSI more attention.

I know you are in the middle of a move, but my hands are really tied at this point without getting more help from your team.  Coins need ideas, marketing, and hype.  I think presenting your ideas to the community could help garner more attention for XSI.

CN



This is the PM  sent to Cryptoniewbe, I just followed his instructions and posted my ideas on the XSI Thread. These were my proposals to hep save the coin which I deemed reasonable but Cryptoniewbie thought in the end they were not viable for him so all I asked was if we couldn't come to an agreement we sort out a refund and go our separate ways without bad feelings.
newbie
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Wow.

I was offline for a few days and I can't believe the level this has dropped to.

The Qibuck community was supposed to be a good thing. It is ridiculous that it came to this level.

I have dealt with Cryptonewbie on many many different occasions and the things being said here are preposterous.

To me it looks like the Qibucks team came in and destroyed XSI. I understand that there are details that need to be worked out but blasting all of these things in the main thread and basically yelling at each other just makes everyone look like children.

I respect the Qibucks team and what you do but the behavior here has pushed XSI to a whole new depth that I am unsure it can ever recover from.


All I have is one word.

Tragic.

You're posting into a thread/OP announcement that [XSI]StabilityShares-NEW PotCoin Partnership! 

And it's clear that CryptoNewbie wanted to leave the XSI project to create a new coin...

Does it appear possible/probable that CryptoNewbie wanted to hand XSI off to someone immediately?  Perhaps he even pushed pretty hard to do this???  Do you have any perspective other than CryptoNewbie's that the QiBucks team has destroyed XSI???

I read the thread many times and I observed "name calling" and tactical attacks only from CryptoNewbie.  By also "following the money" there doesn't ever appear to be any incentive for QBK to takeover XSI?Huh  I could see them doing it in exchange for some of XSI software development - but there's no other reason....  Also why would QBK pay XSI 3 Bitcoin to takeover the coin?  To me it appears pretty obvious....





sr. member
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Wow.

I was offline for a few days and I can't believe the level this has dropped to.

The Qibuck community was supposed to be a good thing. It is ridiculous that it came to this level.

I have dealt with Cryptonewbie on many many different occasions and the things being said here are preposterous.

To me it looks like the Qibucks team came in and destroyed XSI. I understand that there are details that need to be worked out but blasting all of these things in the main thread and basically yelling at each other just makes everyone look like children.

I respect the Qibucks team and what you do but the behavior here has pushed XSI to a whole new depth that I am unsure it can ever recover from.


All I have is one word.

Tragic.

legendary
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what is wrong with you guys

we are buying leet coins like XSI  for 3,4 btc's believe that will be huge....

seems now price is going again to 0 satoshis....

go f/*** yourselves oK?
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I don't understand, so Cryptonewbie is dumping XSI to make new coin ?

What's wrong with XSI ? Why not stay instead of going through effort of creating new coin and all the problems he's already gone through with XSI ?

I'm only small holder with 200 coin, I didn't even collect my world cup event coins yet as I'm lazy but it still is a shame to see this latest news and bad stuff
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Why don't both parties just return coins and go separate ways.  It's clear that neither party wants to work with the other and no real work has been done by either party.  

Heck, XSI has already made a deal with PotCoin...  No app was created so refund each other and move on....  Use escrow....

And no harm has been done either so full refunds are in order...


I totally agree, my mistake which I take full responsibility was for paying for less than I thought we were getting. If Cryptonewbie can be a kind gentleman and agree to a refund, even via installments that would settle everything so both parties can move on. He can settle with directly with Silverking as he will be dealing in main business agreements in the future as this is not my forte. Although we will all vote as a team in QBK before any future jv agreements be made with other coins. If for any reason mr Cryptoniewbie does not respond to a refund request I will myself personally take responsibility and pay back the 3 btc from my own monies to the QBK coffers...as my responsibility and dedication is first and primary to my QIBUCK Community. I was prepared to work hard for the SXI community as well but without hardly any skin in the game and not much support coming from this side it is not viable for us to work and dedicate extra time to this project. I openly apologize for wasting the XSI Community's time plus for putting my QBK Family to such a headache as well. For me now this partnership is terminated at the present time and we kindly request mr Cryptoniewbie to negotiate a refund settlement with Silverking on behalf of QBK if possible. Kind thanks. I was working solidly full time to establish QIBUCK COJN in it's first month and was making arrangements to emigrate as well so the work load and pressure made me to make a wrong decision under duress without knowing exactly what I was paying for on behalf of QBK Coin.
newbie
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Why don't both parties just return coins and go separate ways.  It's clear that neither party wants to work with the other and no real work has been done by either party. 

Heck, XSI has already made a deal with PotCoin...  No app was created so refund each other and move on....  Use escrow....

And no harm has been done either so full refunds are in order...
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I like this coin,but I don't have scrypt-asic  Sad Sad


Coin is not produced, you do not need Asiс. You can just buy on the stock exchange, the more the price is very low.
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I like this coin,but I don't have scrypt-asic  Sad Sad
legendary
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For the sake of both our communities, is it possible to just put this to an end to all this without ill feeling or malice. I will take partly the blame for going ahead under duress and extreme exhaustion in accepting an offer that was not viable for our Team to manage, or profitable. If you would kindly refund us it would be best and maybe later on we could perhaps discuss helping out the XSI community without any monies involved, perhaps by way of promotion etc, minus the 115k XSI which we would keep, any refund would be appreciated. We could agree on installment basis if you don't have it all at hand. The only thing is we can't affer the coin as a reward without financial input from the community. us taking all the financial burden of XSI would be financially impossible.
sr. member
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We followed your cue when you tweeted about talks, but you still had to finalize your side of what you are offering Qibuck in return.Why do you tweet that when Qiwoman is away?
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The money sent was for a merchant app which you haven't delivered to us.
The record is there to see on our Qibuck ledger so I am not making this up.
https://poloniex.com/ledgers/qbk
Scroll down and see.

@QibuckCoin is going to take over XSI and merge communities. They will offer it as a reward in their proof of bagholder system. #XSI

That was my tweet, which your coin re-tweeted https://twitter.com/QibuckCoin.  Please explain why you would re-tweet that message if it werent true?

That tweet right there tells the entire story.  I have nothing more to say.  You are totally fabricating things and anyone that reads that can plainly see what the deal was.
sr. member
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I have only spoken to you since yesterday regarding this,you contacted me.
What Qiwoman has told me you insisted and forced her to takeover XSI.
There were no conditions set or agreed on in regards to taking over XSI.
Only thing that was agreed on was the merchant app which I asked you about,the team as a while do not agree that we should acquire another coin if there is no investment your side.You talk about a merger but I have yet to see what you have to offer in this deal.
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The money sent was for a merchant app which you haven't delivered to us.

Thats totally untrue, and I never once spoke to you about anything.
sr. member
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The money sent was for a merchant app which you haven't delivered to us.
The record is there to see on our Qibuck ledger so I am not making this up.
https://poloniex.com/ledgers/qbk
Scroll down and see.
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I am asking you to be truthful.There was no formal arrangement on taking over the coin.
There are no conditions set,the only deal I know was on the merchant app which has not been fulfilled.
It is certainly not a fabrication.
 In that case refund our money and we will move on.
We do not accept the current terms you insist were made regarding a takeover,I asked you for the terms and you ignored my question on it.So there was no formal terms set on a takeover.

There was no deal, but you sent money?  That makes absolutely no sense.  You dont accept the terms of a deal that was already completed 3 weeks ago?  Wtf are you talking about?

You keep making claims that I didnt address your questions.  Read my post because it addresses your questions.
sr. member
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I am asking you to be truthful.There was no formal arrangement on taking over the coin.
There are no conditions set,the only deal I know was on the merchant app which has not been fulfilled.
It is certainly not a fabrication.
 In that case refund our money and we will move on.
We do not accept the current terms you insist were made regarding a takeover,I asked you for the terms and you ignored my question on it.So there was no formal terms set on a takeover.I am a cofounder of Qibuck,and do not agree on these conditions you have set.I suggest a refund in that case.
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I was in charge of Qibuck when Qiwoman was away.Any queries I told you to contact me regarding XSI.
If you do not wish to proceed with it please refund 3 bitcoins minus the XSI money you sent us.
You continue to ignore my questions Cryptonewbie many times now.
No formal deal was made and you insisted there was one,the only deal was for a merchant app to use which we do not have from you.
You were never compensated on XSI? You are asking another coin team to run your coin for nothing in return.

You are totally fabricating everything.  The people in this community have dealt with me for 5 months and know how I do business.  Going back and forth with you is a waste of time.

I had absolutely no discussion with you about anything until last night, and you nor Qiwoman ever mentioned anything about talking to you while she was gone.

I also contacted her numerous times over this period of time.  She could have relayed these messages to you, or you could have contacted me.  Fail to see why I had any reason to contact anyone other Qiwoman2 since she made the deal with me.

My side of the story is clearly articulated in my post.  Changing a deal 3 weeks after the fact to suit your own needs is all that is taking place.  
sr. member
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I was in charge of Qibuck when Qiwoman was away.Any queries I told you to contact me regarding XSI.
If you do not wish to proceed with it please refund 3 bitcoins minus the XSI money you sent us.
You continue to ignore my questions Cryptonewbie many times now.
No formal deal was made and you insisted there was one,the only deal was for a merchant app to use which we do not have from you.
You were never compensated on XSI? You are asking another coin team to run your coin for nothing in return.
legendary
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