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@Mandica, i will say this though, think about your actions a bit more. If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and walks like a duck, then it is one right?



@LongAndShort,i will say this though,think about your attack a bit more.If you looks like a barking dog,sounds like a barking dog,and walks like a barking dog,then you are one right?
sr. member
Activity: 343
Merit: 250
You know you've made it when Longandshort has showed up on a thread  Smiley



More times then not, If i end up in a ICO or Premine thread, challenging the community and developer of it. The project goes no where and is usually dead in a few months. Do the math here.

Your 1 developer cannot answer simple reasoning questions relating to their decisions already made (you can't just expect to say trust me and not elaborate). RED FLAG
Your 1 developer is not a cryptographer yet thinks they will end seeing their code upstream from several cryptographers. (i know they currently have no funds to hire one for more then 2 weeks ft work) RED FLAG
Your 1 developer keeps promising they "will deliver" instead of just doing it. (they don't need to keep any of you around to just make some good tech here) HUGE RED FLAG
Your 1 developer responds to people challenging them with the same rubbish most of you say who don't know how to answer a technical question. MASSIVE RED FLAG
I wont go on unless yall keep at me. Ive made my point so far.

@Mandica, i will say this though, think about your actions a bit more. If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and walks like a duck, then it is one right?

Xspec spectre to be your not.  Also there is more than one dev working on this project.   I hear trumpcoin and putincoin could use some of your fud.
legendary
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@Gandalf86 quite simply put, when you have a ICO funds key and or a premine then yes! My intent here is to legitimise this developer, community and project. It only ever has been with any other project thread i have entered and challenged. The disturbing thing is that the developers and community in those threads delegitimised it for themselves in that process. I see the same happening here.

Calm down, take a breath and look at what i have actually asked. Its not near as hard as you are trying to make it out to be.
hero member
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Coin Mage
Its just strange now that Mandica and you lot want to convince yourselves that its a big future here but don't want to answer some simple questions that prove many things at next to zero cost for you.


As has been said many times, the ICO was massively undervalued. I don't know the reason for this, but it's not the dev's fault. All early investors here are headed for the future, not the past. 3000 SAT is still undervalued, that's why people hold. We're waiting for the project to build the App, which is in the making, and bring it to the masses.
newbie
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In case the Ape doesn't know who it is I will tell it.....LongandShort is the Ape.
Would you like a Banana?
sr. member
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newbie
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Although, I will say, the Ape seems very concerned for some odd reason. Let me research it (the Ape) and see why it is worried, then I'll start picking on that scab.
newbie
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This ape is just trying to cause problems. Ignore it. It will go away. You know its intentions. It's not here for anything but to throw poo on us all.

Shoo Ape! Find a Skyscraper to fall off of.
legendary
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You know you've made it when Longandshort has showed up on a thread  Smiley



More times then not, If i end up in a ICO or Premine thread, challenging the community and developer of it. The project goes no where and is usually dead in a few months. Do the math here.

Your 1 developer cannot answer simple reasoning questions relating to their decisions already made (you can't just expect to say trust me and not elaborate). RED FLAG
Your 1 developer is not a cryptographer yet thinks they will end seeing their code upstream from several cryptographers. (i know they currently have no funds to hire one for more then 2 weeks ft work) RED FLAG
Your 1 developer keeps promising they "will deliver" instead of just doing it. (they don't need to keep any of you around to just make some good tech here) HUGE RED FLAG
Your 1 developer responds to people challenging them with the same rubbish most of you say who don't know how to answer a technical question. MASSIVE RED FLAG
I wont go on unless yall keep at me. Ive made my point so far.

@Mandica, i will say this though, think about your actions a bit more. If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and walks like a duck, then it is one right?
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1050

Really, 83 sats as not many believed that we would deliver, it was a dynamic price ICO so a few investors got a good deal. We delivered the second stage of the project and we are just about to deliver the first stage of the Android mobile platform for XSPEC. Dump? That would be stupid as the the price will still go up.

You can just regret that you didn't buy in and didn't believe, follow and see what happens.

I told you that we would deliver and we will keep doing that.

Please mandica, i encourage you to stop promising absolutes. Its unnecessary, unprofessional and very concerning. Talking about regret and price is another big red flag and massive no no when it comes to professionalism. You cannot ever guarantee the "price will go up" Again, its very concerning behavior. Its being noted by the wise and should be noted by the sheep.

On a different subject to you selling fluff as innovation. Did you consider integrating some or all of the following, instead of tor?

  • i2p
  • Freenet
  • Morphmix / Tarzan
  • Mixminion / Mixmaster
  • Jap
  • Mute
  • Antsp2p
  • Haystack

If so, can you please explain in a short summary, the reasons for not choosing each one?
Did you even know they all existed?
Could you explain to me why you chose the sdc source over Pinocchio, dash and or monero or your own? Again, short summary please.
Are you a cryptographer?
Do you have a cryptographer?
Do you wish to just allow the sdc devs to do the core work and just stay downstream from them in terms of core development of the code.

I don't wish to take up much of your time i am only needing some real convincing that you understand exactly what it is you are doing and why.
Thankyou for your time taken to answer me.

No offense, but who are you, and why does Mandica owe you anything?  

I believe the questions are quite sensible, they certainly give some context and i think i was quite respectful. After all, i am free to ask what i want, when i want just like you all expect you are to beable to.

Its just strange now that Mandica and you lot want to convince yourselves that its a big future here but don't want to answer some simple questions that prove many things at next to zero cost for you. Infact they are opportunities to sell yourselves. But sure paint me a "SDC bagholder" like some child with little logic or powers of deduction would.



newbie
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Really, 83 sats as not many believed that we would deliver, it was a dynamic price ICO so a few investors got a good deal. We delivered the second stage of the project and we are just about to deliver the first stage of the Android mobile platform for XSPEC. Dump? That would be stupid as the the price will still go up.

You can just regret that you didn't buy in and didn't believe, follow and see what happens.

I told you that we would deliver and we will keep doing that.

Please mandica, i encourage you to stop promising absolutes. Its unnecessary, unprofessional and very concerning. Talking about regret and price is another big red flag and massive no no when it comes to professionalism. You cannot ever guarantee the "price will go up" Again, its very concerning behavior. Its being noted by the wise and should be noted by the sheep.

On a different subject to you selling fluff as innovation. Did you consider integrating some or all of the following, instead of tor?

  • i2p
  • Freenet
  • Morphmix / Tarzan
  • Mixminion / Mixmaster
  • Jap
  • Mute
  • Antsp2p
  • Haystack

If so, can you please explain in a short summary, the reasons for not choosing each one?
Did you even know they all existed?
Could you explain to me why you chose the sdc source over Pinocchio, dash and or monero or your own? Again, short summary please.
Are you a cryptographer?
Do you have a cryptographer?
Do you wish to just allow the sdc devs to do the core work and just stay downstream from them in terms of core development of the code.

I don't wish to take up much of your time i am only needing some real convincing that you understand exactly what it is you are doing and why.
Thankyou for your time taken to answer me.

No offense, but who are you, and why does Mandica owe you anything? 
sr. member
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You know you've made it when Longandshort has showed up on a thread  Smiley

hero member
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It will be.

My point is you just cant promise that. You cant promise anything, because you just don't know. A great example is evidence that there was a technical fault a few months ago, the sdc database could be deanonymised. Who are you trying to sucker into believing your lame attempts to inflate. You are 100% making the entire anon space look ridiculous. You keep doing it too, its infuriating and completely unnecessary. Its actually going against your desired cause which is the really disturbing part about all of this!

Its a illusion that you feel better by typing promises you just cant keep. It actually does nothing good for the cause! I believe it certainly isn't making you feel better or more secure in yours or anyone elses' choice. Not in reality!


SDC bagholder? I don't need to convince you of anything at all. You can make your own mind up what coin to support or not. We will not stay downstream of SDC and we have our own plans. SDC can tinker with their market and we can progress the privacy angle.
legendary
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Spectreproject Community Manager
@Gandalf86 Well put.

@L&S.....last I looked, everyone of us is free to make our on choices and decisions regarding what we buy or sell...or not.
I'm sorry I don't seem to have your level of intellect, maybe one day I will.
In the meantime, please leave this thread and go back to where you belong....you're starting to just babble and criticize everyone that posts here.
I'm sure I'll be next.  Roll Eyes
hero member
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Coin Mage
Slowly I am getting why people call Bitcointalk a "toxic place" nowadays. I've never seen such an ungrateful and acid pointless discussion in the threads I am normally posting in. Sounds like you are trying to discourage the developers from continuing their own project!  Sad It's quite disappointing to read through this.

To me it seems that the reason for this are jealousy and frustration. In an open source culture, sharing code and sharing new ideas should be the norm and not trying to outrival other projects! Even the idea of "rivalry" doesn't make the least amount of sense when everything is open source.

Whether the approach of this project makes sense to you, is not part of the discussion! If you see any technical problems, I'm sure everyone would be grateful if you could tell the devs in Slack about it. Nobody is promising anything, we just want to try out a new approach and build great software! What is the problem with that?  Huh If you don't like the devs, or don't think it will be great software, just leave! No need to spread your bad mood around in this friendly community.
legendary
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It will be.

My point is you just cant promise that. You cant promise anything, because you just don't know. A great example is evidence that there was a technical fault a few months ago, the sdc database could be deanonymised. Who are you trying to sucker into believing your lame attempts to inflate. You are 100% making the entire anon space look ridiculous. You keep doing it too, its infuriating and completely unnecessary. Its actually going against your desired cause which is the really disturbing part about all of this!

Its a illusion that you feel better by typing promises you just cant keep. It actually does nothing good for the cause! I believe it certainly isn't making you feel better or more secure in yours or anyone elses' choice. Not in reality!
newbie
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legendary
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Merit: 1050
those who regret not having participated in the ICO and believing that it was a scam, can catch up again... All the promises have been kept, and if they continue like this the price will explode.


It is true, I participate in the ICO, and now I am buying in the exchanges, because even the price is very cheap.
This coin is superior to Monero, then I will continue to buy, because the price of Spetrecoin,
in a short time, will be higher than the price of Monero.  Roll Eyes

What you mean is SDC is superior to Monero. Spectre is just a cheap clone. For that matter, a cheap diluted clone with 4 times as many coins. Soon it will be missing all the most important features coming to SDC.

Do not you feel ashamed to talk about privacy, when ShadowCash publishes the IP of the users of your network?

See the IP addresses:    

http://explorer.shadow.cash/nodes/

If your network publicly displays the IP addresses of your users,
what authority do you have to talk about privacy?
To the facts, the words of ShadowCash, are castles on sand ...
Please, it's night, let the people of Spectrecoin rest in peace!   Smiley


Why the heck would a crypto marketed around secrecy ever post an IP address?  Sort defeats the whole purpose which it is meant, doesn't it?

Link a transaction to a ip address, on Monero, Dash, Pinocchio, Technovert/Ryno then lets talk.



xpec is "Attempting" to reduce any future risk. I cant blame mandica for that, infact i encourage it. (the search for better privacy as long as its researched well) I just argue that its just fluff, and not a unique feature worth banging on about like its cured cancer. You need to remain calm and stop with the garbage justifications that its worth speculating on. It could be a strong foundation laid in a bigger picture but its not like you finished the race. It can also potentially be a nightmare unfolding. No one can guarantee just yet. So why are you trying to?




Another fact is that its been done, its been thought about, its been debated and its been deprioritised by project leaders across many currencies. but sure "zomg, integrated tor... supah anonimussssss"

Tor is not important to anyone who cares enough to spend bulk currency on it. It sure as shit is not worth you making a fool of yourself because you don't understand the tech or its implications.
I encourage you lot to humble yourselves, prove yourselves, and for fuck sake, stop making more enemies with people who know a lot more about this tech then you!
newbie
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those who regret not having participated in the ICO and believing that it was a scam, can catch up again... All the promises have been kept, and if they continue like this the price will explode.


It is true, I participate in the ICO, and now I am buying in the exchanges, because even the price is very cheap.
This coin is superior to Monero, then I will continue to buy, because the price of Spetrecoin,
in a short time, will be higher than the price of Monero.  Roll Eyes

What you mean is SDC is superior to Monero. Spectre is just a cheap clone. For that matter, a cheap diluted clone with 4 times as many coins. Soon it will be missing all the most important features coming to SDC.

Do not you feel ashamed to talk about privacy, when ShadowCash publishes the IP of the users of your network?

See the IP addresses:   

http://explorer.shadow.cash/nodes/

If your network publicly displays the IP addresses of your users,
what authority do you have to talk about privacy?
To the facts, the words of ShadowCash, are castles on sand ...
Please, it's night, let the people of Spectrecoin rest in peace!   Smiley


Why the heck would a crypto marketed around secrecy ever post an IP address?  Sort defeats the whole purpose which it is meant, doesn't it?
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Leo Bitman
those who regret not having participated in the ICO and believing that it was a scam, can catch up again... All the promises have been kept, and if they continue like this the price will explode.


It is true, I participate in the ICO, and now I am buying in the exchanges, because even the price is very cheap.
This coin is superior to Monero, then I will continue to buy, because the price of Spetrecoin,
in a short time, will be higher than the price of Monero.  Roll Eyes

What you mean is SDC is superior to Monero. Spectre is just a cheap clone. For that matter, a cheap diluted clone with 4 times as many coins. Soon it will be missing all the most important features coming to SDC.

Do not you feel ashamed to talk about privacy, when ShadowCash publishes the IP of the users of your network?

See the IP addresses:    

http://explorer.shadow.cash/nodes/

If your network publicly displays the IP addresses of your users,
what authority do you have to talk about privacy?
To the facts, the words of ShadowCash, are castles on sand ...
Please, it's night, let the people of Spectrecoin rest in peace!   Smiley
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