Topic: [XSPEC] Spectrecoin | Untraceable Tx | Ring Signatures | Tor Integration - page 54. (Read 115721 times)

The point was to stop any and all false claims that are made in regards to cryptotokens with ring signatures.  The most obvious incorrect statement being that XSPEC was not the first to integrate TOR with RS + Stealth Addresses, but rather that Eclipse Crypto did it quite a few months back.

XSPEC is misleading people into thinking that they were the first to implement all the anonymity features in their token with their marketing. 

I don't like people being misled by those making incorrect statements (even if those  making said statements don't know they are incorrect).

All I wanted to do is point out basic flaws in XSPEC's claims and provide historical background information on RS tokens based on bitcoin core regarding both the first usage of TOR and the first implementation of certain cryptographic schemes necessary for RS to work (with proof and links that anyone can follow).

I've done nothing more but speak the truth in as civil manner as is possible.

Ok, y_0. I'm not trying to be rude or unfair. What is your point? What do you want to accomplish? Why do you come here to this thread, which is about Spectre, and talk about Eclipse Crypto?

Do you want to point out that Eclipse Crypto exists and also has Tor? Ok, got it. Everyone got it. There are a lot of coins. If you like EC more than XSPEC, fine! I like Spectre more. But please stop bothering us here because this is starting to get annoying.

you meant like this on CMC?

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/eclipse/

htf are you XSPECting for ppl to know about that?i not even know there was a coin name eclipse until today.

EC is also on CMC.  And since it's been pointed out previously that TOR was integrated into the codebase, we see yet another untrue statement.

How is making factual statements an attack, again?  Such an attempt is a diversion tactic to mislead people.

No reminiscing is happening; rather, what you observe is someone pointing out blatant lies (to anyone who bothers to do some research) and setting the record straight.

An empire built on lies can only last so long before the truth makes it rot from the inside.

Silence is not indicative of no development.  Yet another false claim is made with no substantive proof.  Kindly please stop making inaccurate statements.

XPECT is here now, on three popular exchanges and has an active dev group.
Future plans are on the OP and coin website.
Its real and not going away. 

I agree.  Move on.  How about making some contribution and make it better instead of attack/reminiscing on something that has no value in the past.

Right now, it's XSPEC (and I like the name by the way) is the new coin that has Stealth Address, Ring Signature, and Zero Knowledge Proof... yes, same like Monero, SDC, but better than DASH or ZCASH (it does not have Ring Sig.).  But none of the others that's listed in coinmarketcap.com has TOR built in natively with combining features from Monero, SDC, DASH, ZCASH.  XSPEC has TOR integration.  And I love it.  It has more features..TOR. TOR is privacy.  
Coinmarketcap is what people care about okay.  If you don't like XSPEC, than go back to Monero or SDC.  To me, XSPEC is better.  To me, combining Monero, SDC, DASH, ZCASH features and Adding TOR on top is genius.

Remember the BASF slogan?  We didn't make the tv, or car, or computer, etc.  "We make a lot of the things you buy, BETTER."  To me, XSPEC makes it better.

 

Lol many newbie accounts here pointing out that "Eclipse Crypto" was the first to integrate Tor, and accordingly, XSPEC is the second. Alright! You are right, XSPEC is not the first. So what? Watcha gonna do? ~ ~

Spectre is the only one that has it, and that is actively developed.

I had never heard of EC until today and nobody has mentioned it until today so I was unaware of it's existence.

Meh.
Just because you think a coin is dead or lacks of activity does not make you eligible to twist the facts or deny them. He talks about 'historical events', and wether a coin is active or not has no impact on
these events. Spectre makes claims which are obviously not correct, they were pointed out by member Y_0.
Simple as that.

To make a coin look bad by saying is seems to be dead and the devs own a certain % percentage of the supply is not they way to confess you're wrong and he's right.
Come on, all you do (after you have to accept he's right) is to talk bad about the other coin?
Lame.

Looks very promissing. Happy about investing in this product

agree " this coin price will be increasing significantly ". just waiting

XSPEC is a coin developed by a solid dev team, OP is an old member here, I fully trust you, you are doing job well. I think this coin price will be increasing significantly. Gold will shine.

Ok, I see what you are saying, EC, seems to be a dead coin where the devs own almost 50% of the coins and the dev hasn't been active since mid 2016. In contrast XSPEC has active development and will expand and improve on the code base we are using and develop a unique mobile platform for anonymous cash transfer.

We will also expand on our privacy features and if you follow for a while you will see.

I understand what you are saying, and I agree with that other poster actually says.  He's not saying that Shadow ever integrated Tor or I2P in their code or had any plans to, but rather that Eclipse Crypto took the Shadow source code and properly (as far as I can tell) implemented ring signatures and also implemented TOR.

He even points out the fact (by pointing out the relevant functions that are used in the source code) that XSPEC implements the same algorithm that Eclipse Crypto did for generating a Key Image, and it appears this algorithm was also subsequently used by XSPEC.  

All of this was done more than 10 months before XSPEC.

As such, you can't make the claim that you are the first.

If you would read and follow the links (bitcointalk thread which points to github) that were provided to you, you'd see that to be the case ...

Easy enough to dig through the details if you want.  

Instead, you re-assert the exact same statements that Y_0 is claiming not to be true; he even provides enough of the details for you to look into it yourself.  In fact, if you read that Eclipse Crypto thread that is linked, you'll see that the Eclipse Crypto account refers to Y_0 as one of their devs.  Why he made that post in this XSPEC thread that didn't indicate he is one of the Eclipse Crypto devs is beyond me.  Modesty or maybe he didn't want to derail the conversation, except to simply point out the true historical events for people who are capable of doing some (basic) research (especially when it doesn't take too long).

Regardless, repeating a claim over and over again doesn't make it any more valid particularly when it's proven to be the case otherwise.

As far as I am aware SDC has never integrated Tor or I2P into their code base although they may be planning to. What we are saying is that we are currently the only crypto with ring signatures, dual key stealth addresses AND integrated Tor.

Sure.  It's quite simple.  When in doubt, look at the source code.   

See : https://github.com/EclipseCrypto/eclipse/tree/master/src/tor

Can you display Eclipse information with TOR implemented?
I did not find anything on their website, I'm also sleepy and I'm going to continue sleeping.
See you tomorrow.

I'm sorry.  What is outdated info?  Shadow corrected the vulnerability using the Eclipse Crypto devs' solution and Eclipse Crypto had TOR implemented when they originally launched back in February '16.  Didn't Spectre launch this month?

Tell me again how you can make the claim the Spectre is the only network with absolute anonymity and also be the first?      

It is outdated info, Shadow already corrected that vulnerability, in addition Shadow did not implement TOR.
Spectrecoin was born without such vulnerabilities.