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Topic: [XSPEC] Spectrecoin | Untraceable Tx | Ring Signatures | Tor Integration - page 53. (Read 115721 times)

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Not sure what you imply by that list of coins but I notice that SDC is there, so here is SDC + Tor + development towards better privacy rather than a redundant market function. So I guess that's an endorsement to say that Spectre is top of the game when it comes to anonymity.

Because Tor is not completely anonymous.

Here's an example

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2017/01/13/tor-users-at-risk-of-being-unmasked-by-ultrasound-tracking/

I'm sorry but I think you mix concepts here. Tor is a way to hide your real IP address online.
Anonymity is another concept and anonymity is not an absolute and not “Am I anonymous?” yes/no but rather, “How anonymous am I, and to whom?”. Anonymity is not an absolute, it is a measurement / quantity or degree.

Tor is one out of several strategies to increase the degree of anonymity and make it more difficult for an attacker.

"So I guess that's an endorsement to say that Spectre is top of the game when it comes to anonymity."


"Anonymity is another concept and anonymity is not an absolute and not “Am I anonymous?” yes/no but rather, “How anonymous am I, and to whom?”. Anonymity is not an absolute, it is a measurement / quantity or degree."

Very confusing!  Roll Eyes


Not really, Spectre offers the best degree of anonymity at the moment and we will strive to improve on that, or you could say that transactions conducted on the Spectre network is more anonymous that say on the DASH network or SDC network. It's simple.
sr. member
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Missed that ICO....what was the ICO price?

quick answer would be nice Smiley
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Don't Trust Words

Not sure what you imply by that list of coins but I notice that SDC is there, so here is SDC + Tor + development towards better privacy rather than a redundant market function. So I guess that's an endorsement to say that Spectre is top of the game when it comes to anonymity.

Because Tor is not completely anonymous.

Here's an example

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2017/01/13/tor-users-at-risk-of-being-unmasked-by-ultrasound-tracking/

I'm sorry but I think you mix concepts here. Tor is a way to hide your real IP address online.
Anonymity is another concept and anonymity is not an absolute and not “Am I anonymous?” yes/no but rather, “How anonymous am I, and to whom?”. Anonymity is not an absolute, it is a measurement / quantity or degree.

Tor is one out of several strategies to increase the degree of anonymity and make it more difficult for an attacker.

"So I guess that's an endorsement to say that Spectre is top of the game when it comes to anonymity."


"Anonymity is another concept and anonymity is not an absolute and not “Am I anonymous?” yes/no but rather, “How anonymous am I, and to whom?”. Anonymity is not an absolute, it is a measurement / quantity or degree."

Very confusing!  Roll Eyes




hero member
Activity: 693
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Not sure what you imply by that list of coins but I notice that SDC is there, so here is SDC + Tor + development towards better privacy rather than a redundant market function. So I guess that's an endorsement to say that Spectre is top of the game when it comes to anonymity.

Because Tor is not completely anonymous.

Here's an example

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2017/01/13/tor-users-at-risk-of-being-unmasked-by-ultrasound-tracking/

I'm sorry but I think you mix concepts here. Tor is a way to hide your real IP address online.
Anonymity is another concept and anonymity is not an absolute and not “Am I anonymous?” yes/no but rather, “How anonymous am I, and to whom?”. Anonymity is not an absolute, it is a measurement / quantity or degree.

Tor is one out of several strategies to increase the degree of anonymity and make it more difficult for an attacker.
hero member
Activity: 656
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Don't Trust Words

Not sure what you imply by that list of coins but I notice that SDC is there, so here is SDC + Tor + development towards better privacy rather than a redundant market function. So I guess that's an endorsement to say that Spectre is top of the game when it comes to anonymity.

Because Tor is not completely anonymous.

Here's an example

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2017/01/13/tor-users-at-risk-of-being-unmasked-by-ultrasound-tracking/
hero member
Activity: 693
Merit: 508

Not sure what you imply by that list of coins but I notice that SDC is there, so here is SDC + Tor + development towards better privacy rather than a redundant market function. So I guess that's an endorsement to say that Spectre is top of the game when it comes to anonymity.
hero member
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Don't Trust Words
legendary
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Most of you twits need to stop the childish games. This project against other projects, its stupid.

The fight here is to stick to the facts, research your crypto currency history, and stop promising crap you really cant guarantee until its done!
Outline it sure, but stop packaging up a idea and selling it as though its 100% going to happen. You only set yourself up for fail and honestly, its unnecessary.
legendary
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Also, EC is still actively traded on C-Cex.


now i finally know why you are here.
if you are EC dev,you'd better reveal yourself and claim your statements officially,if you are not....FUCK OFF please!

You cant honestly tell me that you really think what you just suggested is any kind of rational? I'm starting to wonder how old you are, because not much else makes sense with you.

sr. member
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Missed that ICO....what was the ICO price?
legendary
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Spectreproject Community Manager
well, there's plenty for you to buy then, although coinmarket cap says it isn't worth much....and not actively trading.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/eclipse/#markets

best put your btc in XSPEC.
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Also, EC is still actively traded on C-Cex.


now i finally know why you are here.
if you are EC dev,you'd better reveal yourself and claim your statements officially,if you are not....FUCK OFF please!
y_0
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As I said, I had no idea that EC existed. This is not a thread for EC and so point taken and now I know that EC exists and I will refrain from claiming Tor first. I think it's been settled then.

Yes I think the point has been made.

Anyway, thanks y_0 for pointing out! Nobody here knew that EC even existed. If you find any further wrong statements, feel free to come to Slack and tell us what is wrong.  Smiley I'm sure Spectre devs are not trying to trick anyone, so when there are wrong statements, it means that there is a mistake that needs to be corrected! It's always a good idea to keep everything as correct as possible.

Thanks!  Glad that you could be amicable in me pointing out incorrect statements (that you were unaware of). 

If I see any other mistakes, I will be sure to join your slack and let you know there.
y_0
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As I said, I had no idea that EC existed. This is not a thread for EC and so point taken and now I know that EC exists and I will refrain from claiming Tor first. I think it's been settled then.

Fair enough.  No qualms on that.


Ok, y_0. I'm not trying to be rude or unfair. What is your point? What do you want to accomplish? Why do you come here to this thread, which is about Spectre, and talk about Eclipse Crypto?

Do you want to point out that Eclipse Crypto exists and also has Tor? Ok, got it. Everyone got it. There are a lot of coins. If you like EC more than XSPEC, fine! I like Spectre more. But please stop bothering us here because this is starting to get annoying.
I've done nothing more but speak the truth in as civil manner as is possible.

Well, not the whole truth, the EC dev left his community high and dry and never fulfilled his obligation.
You want to talk about "misled" and "lies"

Leaving this guy....the last poor bastard that posted on their thread. out his one Bitcoin.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15003206
Not to mention others.

Its one thing to dream up all the features maybe even get a few working......but to follow through...well we'll just leave it at that. Spectrecoin works, EC is dust in the wind.


In the interest of fairness I have made a few minor updates to the OP and the website and I say that we are the only crypto w/ anon tx and Tor that is being actively developed and traded. I don't think I ever said first, I couldn't find that anywhere. This is based on evidence. We have proved that we are actively developing this crypto and I have not seen any evidence that any other crypto with the same features are being actively developed or traded. Hundreds, maybe thousands of cryptos exists that are not being developed or traded and has for whatever reason faded from view. It is impossible to research every single crypto out there.

XSPEC is here to stay and we will develop our privacy technology and obviously welcome open source collaboration and exchange of ideas and as we look to others, others may look to us. This only strengthens the progress of cryptocurrencies and we should not be in opposition but rather learn from each other.

My apologies for stating that you said you were the first and not the only.  Only implies first, in a way.  Regardless, at least that portion of the matter is settled.

I agree that it would be impossible to research EVERY single coin out there; however, it is but a simple matter to search ring signatures on the altcoin announcements of bitcointalk and conduct your own due diligence.  There's only 4 pages of threads, less with actual coins, and you'll find it on there.

Anyway, your claim that Eclipse Crypto is not being actively developed is only based on the evidence that is made available to you.  That's not to say that your claim is true.  I hope you are as amicable in the future when an update appears, and you retract the not actively developed statement.

Also, EC is still actively traded on C-Cex.  That much you can still verify yourself, so, in the interest of fairness when it comes to your marketing materials, you should (as of now) only have the statement that it is "only actively developed (to the best of your knowledge)".
y_0
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Ok, y_0. I'm not trying to be rude or unfair. What is your point? What do you want to accomplish? Why do you come here to this thread, which is about Spectre, and talk about Eclipse Crypto?

Do you want to point out that Eclipse Crypto exists and also has Tor? Ok, got it. Everyone got it. There are a lot of coins. If you like EC more than XSPEC, fine! I like Spectre more. But please stop bothering us here because this is starting to get annoying.
I've done nothing more but speak the truth in as civil manner as is possible.

Well, not the whole truth, the EC dev left his community high and dry and never fulfilled his obligation.
You want to talk about "misled" and "lies"

Leaving this guy....the last poor bastard that posted on their thread. out his one Bitcoin.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15003206
Not to mention others.

Its one thing to dream up all the features maybe even get a few working......but to follow through...well we'll just leave it at that. Spectrecoin works, EC is dust in the wind.


If you read his post, he says he lost BTC, not 1 BTC.  Please make accurate statements.

Anyway, you have no idea the EC devs left or didn't leave or what's happening.  Many legitimate developers have day jobs and families and develop cryptotokens on the side. Just because the devs haven't posted with the Eclipse Crypto account for a long time does not mean that the coin is dead or that there is no development or that the developers left.  To make such a claim is based on incomplete knowledge.  I'm not faulting you for not having all the information, but the manner in which you misrepresent other's words is not accurate.
hero member
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Ok, y_0. I'm not trying to be rude or unfair. What is your point? What do you want to accomplish? Why do you come here to this thread, which is about Spectre, and talk about Eclipse Crypto?

Do you want to point out that Eclipse Crypto exists and also has Tor? Ok, got it. Everyone got it. There are a lot of coins. If you like EC more than XSPEC, fine! I like Spectre more. But please stop bothering us here because this is starting to get annoying.
I've done nothing more but speak the truth in as civil manner as is possible.

Well, not the whole truth, the EC dev left his community high and dry and never fulfilled his obligation.
You want to talk about "misled" and "lies"

Leaving this guy....the last poor bastard that posted on their thread. out his one Bitcoin.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15003206
Not to mention others.

Its one thing to dream up all the features maybe even get a few working......but to follow through...well we'll just leave it at that. Spectrecoin works, EC is dust in the wind.


In the interest of fairness I have made a few minor updates to the OP and the website and I say that we are the only crypto w/ anon tx and Tor that is being actively developed and traded. I don't think I ever said first, I couldn't find that anywhere. This is based on evidence. We have proved that we are actively developing this crypto and I have not seen any evidence that any other crypto with the same features are being actively developed or traded. Hundreds, maybe thousands of cryptos exists that are not being developed or traded and has for whatever reason faded from view. It is impossible to research every single crypto out there.

XSPEC is here to stay and we will develop our privacy technology and obviously welcome open source collaboration and exchange of ideas and as we look to others, others may look to us. This only strengthens the progress of cryptocurrencies and we should not be in opposition but rather learn from each other.
hero member
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As I said, I had no idea that EC existed. This is not a thread for EC and so point taken and now I know that EC exists and I will refrain from claiming Tor first. I think it's been settled then.

Yes I think the point has been made.

Anyway, thanks y_0 for pointing out! Nobody here knew that EC even existed. If you find any further wrong statements, feel free to come to Slack and tell us what is wrong.  Smiley I'm sure Spectre devs are not trying to trick anyone, so when there are wrong statements, it means that there is a mistake that needs to be corrected! It's always a good idea to keep everything as correct as possible.
legendary
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Spectreproject Community Manager
Ok, y_0. I'm not trying to be rude or unfair. What is your point? What do you want to accomplish? Why do you come here to this thread, which is about Spectre, and talk about Eclipse Crypto?

Do you want to point out that Eclipse Crypto exists and also has Tor? Ok, got it. Everyone got it. There are a lot of coins. If you like EC more than XSPEC, fine! I like Spectre more. But please stop bothering us here because this is starting to get annoying.
I've done nothing more but speak the truth in as civil manner as is possible.

Well, not the whole truth, the EC dev left his community high and dry and never fulfilled his obligation.
You want to talk about "misled" and "lies"

Leaving this guy....the last poor bastard that posted on their thread. out his one Bitcoin.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15003206
Not to mention others.

Its one thing to dream up all the features maybe even get a few working......but to follow through...well we'll just leave it at that. Spectrecoin works, EC is dust in the wind.
hero member
Activity: 693
Merit: 508
As I said, I had no idea that EC existed. This is not a thread for EC and so point taken and now I know that EC exists and I will refrain from claiming Tor first. I think it's been settled then.
sr. member
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Lol many newbie accounts here pointing out that "Eclipse Crypto" was the first to integrate Tor, and accordingly, XSPEC is the second. Alright! You are right, XSPEC is not the first. So what? Watcha gonna do? ~ Grin~

Spectre is the only one that has it, and that is actively developed.

I agree.  Move on.  How about making some contribution and make it better instead of attack/reminiscing on something that has no value in the past.

Right now, it's XSPEC (and I like the name by the way) is the new coin that has Stealth Address, Ring Signature, and Zero Knowledge Proof... yes, same like Monero, SDC, but better than DASH or ZCASH (it does not have Ring Sig.).  But none of the others that's listed in coinmarketcap.com has TOR built in natively with combining features from Monero, SDC, DASH, ZCASH.  XSPEC has TOR integration.  And I love it.  It has more features..TOR. TOR is privacy. 
Coinmarketcap is what people care about okay.



EC is also on CMC.  And since it's been pointed out previously that TOR was integrated into the codebase, we see yet another untrue statement.

How is making factual statements an attack, again?  Such an attempt is a diversion tactic to mislead people.

No reminiscing is happening; rather, what you observe is someone pointing out blatant lies (to anyone who bothers to do some research) and setting the record straight.

An empire built on lies can only last so long before the truth makes it rot from the inside.



Those in power control history. Goodbye EC
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