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donator
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April 09, 2013, 05:36:47 AM
Silkroad has a hedging option when money is placed in escrow. Some vendors don't use it though, so let's hope they remember the money they have made and not what they will lose when the bubble bursts and they decide to not fulfill orders at a loss
Tell me, why should I buy something for 1BTC and wait two weeks delivery, when after two weeks it will probably cost 0.5BTC?

Because you can just take $197 to buy the 1BTC, then buy your product. Same as buying 0.5 BTC for $197 later.
sr. member
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Clown prophet
April 09, 2013, 05:22:31 AM
And we have new all time high
newbie
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April 09, 2013, 05:15:40 AM
Silkroad has a hedging option when money is placed in escrow. Some vendors don't use it though, so let's hope they remember the money they have made and not what they will lose when the bubble bursts and they decide to not fulfill orders at a loss
Tell me, why should I buy something for 1BTC and wait two weeks delivery, when after two weeks it will probably cost 0.5BTC?

Crack cocaine is helluva drug
legendary
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April 09, 2013, 05:03:54 AM
I would add MPEO to that mix... http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpoe-march-2013-statement/

a 700k btc operation may default on April because of some options made there.

If i recall, 700k is enought to get the price to $0 seven times...
mpex is secondary. It does not pump blood via financial vessels of economy.

But it does own a bunch of bitcoins, that in the case of a default may be sold. At least a small portion is enough to make a pop.
sr. member
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Clown prophet
April 09, 2013, 05:01:10 AM
I would add MPEO to that mix... http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpoe-march-2013-statement/

a 700k btc operation may default on April because of some options made there.

If i recall, 700k is enought to get the price to $0 seven times...
mpex is secondary. It does not pump blood via financial vessels of economy.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
April 09, 2013, 04:56:38 AM
There is evidently new money flowing.  The bids are filling quickly after a sell-off.

There is another wedge forming now - will that be invalidated as the previous ones?
Bids owners may be surprised soon that this 2-billion bubble lays on two single points of failure: mtgox and bitpay. Big merchants dont accept Bitcoin, they accept Bitpay, who hedges at mtgox. If something will go wrong with either mtgox or bitpay, goods and services turnover will just disappear in >90% volume, as merchants who accept natural Bitcoin are paralyzed now due to volatility. And will stay paralyzed for a long period of time.

However lets eat popcorn.

I would add MPOE to that mix... http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpoe-march-2013-statement/

a 700k btc operation may default on April because of some options made there.

If i recall, 700k is enought to get the price to $0 seven times...
member
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April 09, 2013, 04:50:31 AM
When buy something for BTC need to buy new coins first. Than it will be like payng 180$ dollars for something, not 1 BTC which will be worth 1000$ after some time (pizza).
full member
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April 09, 2013, 03:09:39 AM
Tell me, why should I buy something for 1BTC and wait two weeks delivery, when after two weeks it will probably cost 0.5BTC?

And herein lies the problem of a rapidly deflationary economy.

I guess you buy it because you want it.
sr. member
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Clown prophet
April 09, 2013, 03:09:31 AM
then we'd all be millionaires Smiley
Not all, not all...
full member
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April 09, 2013, 03:03:35 AM
Because it could cost 2.0 instead of 0.5 BTC.

Would be nice if we could tell the future, then we'd all be millionaires Smiley
sr. member
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Clown prophet
April 09, 2013, 02:55:28 AM
Silkroad has a hedging option when money is placed in escrow. Some vendors don't use it though, so let's hope they remember the money they have made and not what they will lose when the bubble bursts and they decide to not fulfill orders at a loss
Tell me, why should I buy something for 1BTC and wait two weeks delivery, when after two weeks it will probably cost 0.5BTC?
legendary
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Enabling the maximal migration
April 09, 2013, 02:47:39 AM
The bears are not dead...  Shocked
newbie
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April 09, 2013, 02:45:00 AM
I guess vendors and clients (silkroad) who accept REAL bitcoin (not Bitpay) don't like this bubble and we have ddos everywhere

This bubble paralyses real bitcoin economy.

Silkroad has a hedging option when money is placed in escrow. Some vendors don't use it though, so let's hope they remember the money they have made and not what they will lose when the bubble bursts and they decide to not fulfill orders at a loss

legendary
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chaos is fun...…damental :)
April 09, 2013, 02:34:26 AM
if this bubble pops and we get to single digits it will become hilarious
donator
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1019
April 09, 2013, 12:43:16 AM
There is evidently new money flowing.  The bids are filling quickly after a sell-off.

There is another wedge forming now - will that be invalidated as the previous ones?
Bids owners may be surprised soon that this 2-billion bubble lays on two single points of failure: mtgox and bitpay. Big merchants dont accept Bitcoin, they accept Bitpay, who hedges at mtgox. If something will go wrong with either mtgox or bitpay, goods and services turnover will just disappear in >90% volume, as merchants who accept natural Bitcoin are paralyzed now due to volatility. And will stay paralyzed for a long period of time.

However lets eat popcorn.

the mtgox centralization is a problem is a serious one. However there are other functioning active exchanges. For example bitcoin.de in SEPA zone. It's consistently trading higher than mtgoxEUR and mtgoxUSD on rallys. mtGox fail would be huge hit for bitcoin in mid-term, no doubt, but "long period" can mean 3 weeks in bitcoin world.
donator
Activity: 2772
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April 09, 2013, 12:40:10 AM
All of the above, the conditions needed to falsify the prediction, the price movements under different scenarios, actually the meandering part is what I would hope to happen:the price would be stable enough for the business to develop and high enough to not be easily manipulated, I am not as eager to retire as many others here.

Allow me to add my BTC 0.02 from a fundamental perspective:

I think what will happen (in a large scale) is what always happens in short term scale: shoot up, correct down to about 60% of the move, then stabilize yet above that low at whatever fiboncacci says is a nice value between 60% and 100% of original move. This would currently (if this was the top) mean well above $100. Maybe $130.

I do not think this is the top at all, tough. Reason: people are still flocking in like migratory birds. The bulk of the population still hasn't been tapped, they're standing on the sidelines waiting for things to cool off, which they will. Then they will buy, fuelling another mid-/short-term hop up. This will continue until all birds have returned to homeland for the time being. Then they will settle down, take a shit and start to eat berries and fruit. There is no indication this is already the case. Bitcoin spring has just started to cast the first rays of sun on the starved wildlife.

Will that top (for the next years) be 225, 450, 2789 or 9999? I don't know... I'm tending to think either 450 or 2789 makes the most sense.
sr. member
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Clown prophet
April 09, 2013, 12:36:45 AM
There is evidently new money flowing.  The bids are filling quickly after a sell-off.

There is another wedge forming now - will that be invalidated as the previous ones?
Bids owners may be surprised soon that this 2-billion bubble lays on two single points of failure: mtgox and bitpay. Big merchants dont accept Bitcoin, they accept Bitpay, who hedges at mtgox. If something will go wrong with either mtgox or bitpay, goods and services turnover will just disappear in >90% volume, as merchants who accept natural Bitcoin are paralyzed now due to volatility. And will stay paralyzed for a long period of time.

However lets eat popcorn.
zby
legendary
Activity: 1594
Merit: 1001
April 09, 2013, 12:26:24 AM
There is evidently new money flowing.  The bids are filling quickly after a sell-off.

There is another wedge forming now - will that be invalidated as the previous ones?
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Clown prophet
April 09, 2013, 12:18:15 AM
Otherwise, if hourly sma 50 broken,

sr. member
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Clown prophet
April 09, 2013, 12:13:53 AM
I consider everything above V/[5]/3 is highly unstable, unpredictable and highly risky move. The V may have an sub-extension again, but this is really dangerous. Unless hourly sma 50 broken this count is valid.



Count candidate #1. I think we dealing with [5] extension according to subwave structure and duration.


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