Topic: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining USA/DE 255 blocks solved! - page 340. (Read 1514786 times)

yeah ok, to tired missed just that post  

is it possible to put adresss.100000 should it work?

I already answered. Look harder, Homer. Besides, changing diff is only cosmetic.

So can i force my miner to higher Diff or i am stuck at 1k?

no the problem with renting hash is that unless you see the gear and look at its software you don't know if the mining client rejects  winning

shares.  So the diff now is 54xxx    I have a 1 ph farm I hate f2pool.  

 So all my gear has custom mining software that rejects  shares over 60xx over 65xxx over 70xxx

I rent it all to nicehash.   I tell WBF1  rent 1 ph from nicehash and point it at f2pool .

I get paid
nicehash gets paid
WBF1 gets paid from f2pool

f2pool has to pay shares to WBF1  and loses many blocks over time .   since that custom software is reject ½ to ⅔ of the blocks.

I don't say this happens.
But it can happen.  There is no real way to stop this.

The most harm this can do is to f2pool as they are the biggest PPS pool around.

Now if you rent that defective hash (no proof it is bad)  and point it to ck's solo pool   your chance of winning a block will be reduced.

It is kind of a two edged sword as there is no question in my mind this helps to keep f2pool well under 50% of the network.

It is why I support nicehash some what since if they did not exist f2pool would have 0 reason to not expand.

Occasionally I point about 1 coin hash at f2pool.  If I get a really cheap rate I make a tiny bit of coin.  If the hash is bad I help keep f2pool in check.

I do keep stats on all the rentals I ever did at nicehash  I hit 3 blocks so far and I have not spent 75 btc to hit the 3 blocks.

That is a small sample but it is in nice-hashes favor that the hash they rent is pretty good.

Wait there seems to be some confusion here in your understanding. The one hour you're not mining, you're not mining - that's the bad part. But it has absolutely no effect on the rest of the time you're mining. No share effect, no cumulative effect, no harm, zero.

So you're saying there's a market for a trustworthy, transparent hash rental site?

After giving it more thought... Couldn't any pool be manipulated in a similar way?

With cgminer you can add the command line option

Imagine solo mining as you standing in line at the supermarket pulling lottery tickets, scratching them real fast, then checking to see if they are winners. If your miner is down, you're not pulling tickets. If you're not pulling tickets you can't find a winner.

That is NOT ok. Again, rented rigs - well, that's the nature of the beast. Free money for the renter, but the buyer suffers.

can i set my own diff? no matter what it's fixed to start from 1k, could i start above that like 1 million ?

That's why I'd never rent right there. You can't prove you're getting what you paid for. Why should they give you the blocks when they can keep what is today $5400 bucks USD and tell you "Nope, sorry. You didn't win. Please play again!"

$5400 is a great motive to cheat buyers if you're in a country far, far away. What are they going to do, cry about it?


P.S. Kano? I sure would like you to develop a more solo-friendly version of your Antminer software.

... and I'll add ... also note that the rental site also gets paid no matter what happens.
The rental sites have no incentive to care either ...
The rental sites could keep statistical information to help with that ... ...

This has been discussed before but it's worth reiterating.

There is no way to guarantee that rented hash isn't malicious in some way - a big 2PH mine rental could be withholding some or all of the blocks found. Such a mine stands to benefit from this since they get paid by the shares they produce regardless when being rented and they can benefit from not pushing diff up higher by withholding blocks. Unless there is a record of a rental's block solve luck you have no way of knowing. So far the rented hash that has found blocks on this pool has always been in the hundreds of TH range and the blocks found by PH sized rentals has shown very poor luck which is suspicious but of course you can't prove anything.

Observed that as well and have stopped renting from Nicehash because of the statistic discrepancy(probably just bad luck). Most of the hits from big miners come from MRR. You can tell by the number of workers connected to the pool since when using NIcehash the number of workers always remain between 10 -13 at most .

I've noticed that single large nicehash rentals don't hit much. A lot of smaller rentals have for some reason better history of hitting a block. Same with script rentals. Weird.

I did it renting anywhere from 200TH to 1,000TH using West Hash. I came real close when the diff was at 49B I think I Hit block at 46B or near that. See if I can find the post. I have been saving up again by mining and selling/buying coins to make another run at it soon.

500-600 th/s for 8 hours best shar just over 11b was a calculated risk

What was your hashrate and for how long did you rented? Consdering the block reward is 25 BTC, you still can gamble to cover the loss. But still, its too risky.

I burned thru about 7 BTC ....came very close but no block.

about 2 btc

What did that cost you?