Topic: You work your butt off, and a rich dude does nothing and gets rich - how? (Read 23837 times)

That is true.. But you have to be working your butt in order to live.

*layman's terms

Wealth is relative.
You are not rich of poor. You are poor compared to someone and rich compared to someone else.

Getting poor make the others richer. Getting rich make the others poorer.
To have everyone on the same level, you must force everyone to be very poor and take everything just for you, this is called Communism.

That is how life goes in a city. You have no money, you work, you use your money and then youll have no money again.

So who's to blame? The rich or the poor?

Great men's sons seldom do well. With our btc, I'm pretty sure that the next half of our lives will be better.

Agree. Rich becomes richer, poor becomes poorer.

Because the rich dude got money to walk in front of you by 2 steps or more so I don't know man. Unless your mom and dad mutate your gene or someshit then you're one lucky mofo.

Thats how the world goes right now.

With almost everyone completing a bachelor's education, employers are free to set the bar high. Most positions wouldn't really require a college education, but since there are so many graduates around, employers can be choosy and hire somebody with a bachelor's degree.

Haha, I actually just applied to be a mailman.. 

Setting them free would be promoting them to a liveable wage.

Which would permit them to save up some cash, which in turn makes it possible for them to advance their education, move to a different country if they choose, or just save up enough to live on for a while and leave.

But that's not profitable. Master would have to "train" somebody new.

If your employees feel like slaves there's nothing you can do to change that except pay more and improve the working environment/hours. Also they won't tell you if that's the case, they want you to free them.

If you're a small business owner odds are you pay your people well though, unless your just starting and struggling to become profitable, in which case you're out there pulling your weight with them.

I can think of one decent paying position that doesn't require a bachelors. Mailman. But competition is fierce for a job with the USPS.

So, a master can punish a slave by setting them free.  The free person will then want to find any new master that will have them.

Not sure the "slave" analogy is the right one to be honest.

This is discipline for disobeying.

Now they have to suffer, probably lose their apartment, rely on other people which stresses relationships, experience self-esteem loss from being temporarily (or permanently, in some lines of work) unable to provide for one's self, possibly go hungry/be subjected to a demeaning food-stamp program (not every city has soup kitchens, or well stocked food pantries, and not everybody lives in a city), all while having to go around filling out job applications and present their best self for job interview after job interview, selling yourself to a new master.

I would love to try this, but it seems you need a bachelor's to immigrate anywhere.

Yes - agreed. Startlingly relevant and accurate - but we aren't supposed to mention it. He's been thoroughly discredited (apparently).


Here's hopin' 

I would advocate a communist system. And no not the evil communism that has been propagated by the powers that be. True communism; of which has never been fully realized as an economic system.

According to Marx and his theory of historical materialism, communism is the last and final stage in an evolutionary process towards a free stateless, classless, and propertylessness society. 

Primitive Communism > Slave society > Feudalism > Capitalism > Socialism > Communism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx's_theory_of_history - give it a read


What do you think? Pretty crazy how relevant and accurate his writings are still to this day, considering they were written well over 100 years ago.

Coincidentally I believe bitcoin technology will help in this evolutionary process towards a more egalitarian society

I am very much middle, if not lower-middle. I like where I am, I love my country, and I love that I had the freedom to be on my own. I love that I had choices to start a few companies in college while working a "wage slave" job and going to school, which gave me the freedom I have today.

What system do you support? Does it exist anywhere in the world?

Hmm...  What happens if a "wageslave" is fired?  Are they then free?

Unless you are part of the socio-economic elite I cant understand why you are in such support of an exploitative system that at its heart is against you and your classes interest. Capitalism siphons capital and resources into the hands of the few at the expense of the many. There is no debating this. It is a fact of capitalism that wealth becomes ever more concentrated over time. The only reason you are such an adamant supporter of this system is because you believe in the possibility of upward mobility. This is what the elites want you to believe, that everyone and his brother can obtain a better standard of life if only he works HARD ENOUGH; The American Dream baby. However, like the poster above mentioned - you don't make millions working hard, you make millions for others while you work hard for them. The surplus value of your labor power is what is called profit, and profit is made through exploitation, and its not the elite who are getting exploited its YOU my friend. Yes, capitalism seems alright for the middle class as they make what now seems to be decent wages and there standard of living is pretty good and there's still that possibility of moving up the social ladder. However, if you look at the statistics the middle class is shrinking more and more and people are experiencing downward mobility. The possibility of moving up the socio-economic ladder is slim to none for the vast majority. And no its not because people are lazy, or because they don't work hard enough. Its because those at the top of the system want to protect their wealth, status, and power at the expense of yours.

How many are on food stamps now in the United States? What is it 50million now? Gee, if only they all worked harder. Or better yet why don't they all just jump over the ocean to Australia; oh wait that costs money too.