Topic: Your cryptocoins were stolen and you called the police? WTF? Are you serious? (Read 6294 times)
July 29, 2012, 11:47:15 AM
Well. I see most of ppl still don't understand core nature of cryptocoins. In childhood they used to call mom, now they call the police. Discussing is finished.
July 29, 2012, 11:36:19 AM
Don't bother with the local/state police with this one. Contact a local Secret Service office where you (the victim) lives and ask to speak with someone in electronic crimes. Most have a regional electronic crimes task force. Tell them the value of the "property" stolen is X amount, then describe what bitcoin is. Please post results.
July 29, 2012, 11:36:11 AM
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Your cryptocoins were stolen and you called the police? WTF? Are you serious?
Theft is theft. Other countries, they chop your limbs off, lucky they just call the police, here.
July 29, 2012, 11:30:50 AM
Heh. You mean like Blackwater in Iraq? I suppose that the meaning of 'civil liberties' could eventually be managed down to a point where it is OK to randomly shoot at cars for the fun of it and run down people who are close enough to the street that it is doable without swerving to much.
Blackwater was given the legal right to use force by a government which paid and protected it in exchange for that force.Is your suggestion that Blackwater would act differently (and in particular, 'better') if they were given money by a private entity to do the same job and there were no entity to define or grant legal rights? If that is your suggestion the balance of reason and observation seems to me to fail to support this conjecture...especially observing events in the lawless failed states such as the more recent examples in Africa.
July 29, 2012, 11:08:05 AM
Agree with DeathAndTaxes . As long as you can prove pre-existing ownership (the police can only find something which is traceable) and have a clue on when and where the theft it happened it doesn't matter if it's baseball cards or bitcoins.
I completely agree.
The only issue is proving they were in your possession and that an actual theft occurred.
Property = Property
Then again..... The police will not investigate. The resources required to bring 'justice' in this situation are so immense, it is not even worth their time.
July 29, 2012, 10:30:43 AM
What makes you think Private companies won't commit the same violations to civil liberties?
Two things:2) When not socially accepted, the use of force is generally a losing proposition because all of civilized society will rebel against it. It's not like the company can keep secret their identity. The rest of society will refuse to do business with them, boycott their customers, and so on. (Unless the majority wants to go back to having a government, in which case, no system can stop a majority of force from forcing its way on everyone else.)
Silk Road may be the first?
July 29, 2012, 10:27:14 AM
ould u plz explain what Atlas means? I'm not so good in trolling on this forum and didn't manage to find an explanation thru Google.
Don't worry man, you're doing a fine job.
July 29, 2012, 10:23:05 AM
i agree with the original poster.
the police cannot help you with this, they're just not equipped to.
the police cannot help you with this, they're just not equipped to.
July 29, 2012, 09:49:26 AM
This article is from more than a year ago lol. Bitcoin is not illegal.
If u don't wish to see obvious things then I leave u in ur own imagined world.
Oh look, it's another manifest destiny/Atlas loser here to show us all how we are doomed!
Could u plz explain what Atlas means? I'm not so good in trolling on this forum and didn't manage to find an explanation thru Google.
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July 29, 2012, 09:40:28 AM
This article is from more than a year ago lol. Bitcoin is not illegal.
If u don't wish to see obvious things then I leave u in ur own imagined world.
Oh look, it's another manifest destiny/Atlas loser here to show us all how we are doomed!
July 29, 2012, 09:39:34 AM
Nice, waiting for police arresting ppl for having bitcoins
July 29, 2012, 09:36:10 AM
This article is from more than a year ago lol. Bitcoin is not illegal.
If u don't wish to see obvious things then I leave u in ur own imagined world.
July 29, 2012, 09:34:32 AM
This article is from more than a year ago lol. Bitcoin is not illegal.
July 29, 2012, 09:21:51 AM
Again, nonsense
marijuana is illegal
bitcoin is NOT illegal
marijuana is illegal
bitcoin is NOT illegal
I advice u to google regarding legality of Bitcoin. So u could find articles like http://venturebeat.com/2011/06/08/government-crackdown-on-bitcoin/ ...
July 29, 2012, 09:10:47 AM
People still don't completely understand what cryptocoins are. They were created out of any government control (even against it) but ex-owners of stolen coins expect to get support of a government. But it has no sense!
I wasn't happy to read about recent Bitcoinica hack. Of coz, victims should ask the police for help to return money, but ONLY FIAT MONEY. Noone ought to mention bitcoins, coz every user of cryptocoins should understand that they outside the law. I pay taxes and I don't want them to be spent for salary of a police officer who investigates a case related to cryptocoins.
I don't know English good enough to explain very sophisticated ideas, but I hope u got me.
NonsenseI wasn't happy to read about recent Bitcoinica hack. Of coz, victims should ask the police for help to return money, but ONLY FIAT MONEY. Noone ought to mention bitcoins, coz every user of cryptocoins should understand that they outside the law. I pay taxes and I don't want them to be spent for salary of a police officer who investigates a case related to cryptocoins.
I don't know English good enough to explain very sophisticated ideas, but I hope u got me.
We pay TAXES wich also serve for the police service. So yes, if someone steal something from you, you should call the police because you know, you pay TAXES for that.
Bitcoins outside the law. Would u call the police if someone stole ur marijuana?
marijuana is illegal
bitcoin is NOT illegal
July 29, 2012, 08:54:47 AM
Mr. Joel Katz........
He has to always chime in with logic and reason.
He has to always chime in with logic and reason.
July 29, 2012, 08:52:55 AM
Bitcoins outside the law. Would u call the police if someone stole ur marijuana?
You can do things outside of the law with Bitcoin, but Bitcoin is not outside of the law.
You can trade a pound of moldy cheese for a hit of heroin, or a contract to have someone killed, but that doesn't make moldy cheese "outside of the law"
The same goes with US dollar cash.
I disagree. Read more about cryptocoin. Especially about actions that were taken against Bitcoin by senators, banks and others.
July 29, 2012, 08:50:28 AM
Bitcoins outside the law. Would u call the police if someone stole ur marijuana?
You can do things outside of the law with Bitcoin, but Bitcoin is not outside of the law.
You can trade a pound of moldy cheese for a hit of heroin, or a contract to have someone killed, but that doesn't make moldy cheese "outside of the law"
The same goes with US dollar cash.
July 29, 2012, 08:46:50 AM
People still don't completely understand what cryptocoins are. They were created out of any government control (even against it) but ex-owners of stolen coins expect to get support of a government. But it has no sense!
I wasn't happy to read about recent Bitcoinica hack. Of coz, victims should ask the police for help to return money, but ONLY FIAT MONEY. Noone ought to mention bitcoins, coz every user of cryptocoins should understand that they outside the law. I pay taxes and I don't want them to be spent for salary of a police officer who investigates a case related to cryptocoins.
I don't know English good enough to explain very sophisticated ideas, but I hope u got me.
NonsenseI wasn't happy to read about recent Bitcoinica hack. Of coz, victims should ask the police for help to return money, but ONLY FIAT MONEY. Noone ought to mention bitcoins, coz every user of cryptocoins should understand that they outside the law. I pay taxes and I don't want them to be spent for salary of a police officer who investigates a case related to cryptocoins.
I don't know English good enough to explain very sophisticated ideas, but I hope u got me.
We pay TAXES wich also serve for the police service. So yes, if someone steal something from you, you should call the police because you know, you pay TAXES for that.
Bitcoins outside the law. Would u call the police if someone stole ur marijuana?
July 29, 2012, 06:05:50 AM
People still don't completely understand what cryptocoins are. They were created out of any government control (even against it) but ex-owners of stolen coins expect to get support of a government. But it has no sense!
I wasn't happy to read about recent Bitcoinica hack. Of coz, victims should ask the police for help to return money, but ONLY FIAT MONEY. Noone ought to mention bitcoins, coz every user of cryptocoins should understand that they outside the law. I pay taxes and I don't want them to be spent for salary of a police officer who investigates a case related to cryptocoins.
I don't know English good enough to explain very sophisticated ideas, but I hope u got me.
NonsenseI wasn't happy to read about recent Bitcoinica hack. Of coz, victims should ask the police for help to return money, but ONLY FIAT MONEY. Noone ought to mention bitcoins, coz every user of cryptocoins should understand that they outside the law. I pay taxes and I don't want them to be spent for salary of a police officer who investigates a case related to cryptocoins.
I don't know English good enough to explain very sophisticated ideas, but I hope u got me.
We pay TAXES wich also serve for the police service. So yes, if someone steal something from you, you should call the police because you know, you pay TAXES for that.
Another reason not to pay ___. When was the last time you filed a police report for theft? Care to describe the swift actions that took place afterwards?
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