Topic: Your opinion on recreational drug use - page 23. (Read 23044 times)

The point behind making DMT illegal, has to do with the point that the superrich want to reduce the population of the planet to around 100 million. When they get the population down to that, then they will make DMT legal again, and stop killing people to get rid of it.

Countries would likely make DMT illegal instead of ayahuasca specifically, which is foolish as DMT is created within humans, and is in most living things.  I'm also not sure if the vines that contain the MAO inhibitor grow worldwide...seems to be local in South America.

Yeah not sure how to compare it to cannabis, it's a very powerful psychedelic with profound mind opening effects that usually lead to self discovery.  It's a great tool to increase awareness for anyone willing to take the journey

I've watched several documentaries on it, and I've listened to a couple podcasts with Graham Hancock describing his ayahuasca experience.  I like Aubrey Marcus describing his experience/learning on huachuma and ayahuasca as well.

Many nations around the world haven't even started in the direction of making ayahuasca illegal. Some may be in the direction of upholding it. It probably isn't illegal in the States or Britain. Yet, it is better than weed in some ways. And probably not many (any?) studies on using it as medicine have been made. Google it.



EDIT: Youtube search on "ayahuasca Graham Hancock."

Well we're all brainwashed as kids about drugs.  Very few people take the accountability to educate themselves on drugs to form their own opinion, and this thread is a perfect example of that.

Yeah I totally agree with you about psychedelics.  You have a rare opinion for this forum.  It absolutely can be scary, especially if you want to control the situation.  The scary trips are usually the ones that you can learn the most about yourself from, so there are benefits either way.  Being in an environment with any dishonesty or aggression on psychedelics is not going to be fun at all.  Honesty is critical.

Yes, war on drugs is war on freedom.


Psychedelics are not for everyone, as it may scare the living shit out of you,actually  even is you are experienced. You can never know when the bad trip is gonna hit you, specially if you are trying to push the limits. Or doing it in hostile environment, or with people you don't trust.
Drugs are not for everyone either, the same should apply for alcohol.

People are too easily manipulated by the war on drugs campaigns, and if a mother hears their child did some drug, they might start freaking out about it and make things worse. Addiction is about the environment, not about substance. If the family rejects the druggie, where else does he have to go, to find some kind of relief?

A lot of countries (such as Uruguay and Portugal) has made recreational drugs 100% legal. And the results have been overwhelmingly positive. The number of deaths from drug overdose and HIV infections due to drug usage are down. At the same time, the government revenues are up.

Marijuana and LSD (or any psychedelic such as psilocybin, peyote/san pedro, ayahuasca, iboga)  are far less harmless than alcohol or tobacco.  The death count for alcohol/tobacco are insane.

But psychedelics aren't for everyone, and in my opinion aren't really recreational substances.  For those that are interested, do their research and have some mental discipline, it can be a very mind opening and educational experience....not an experience that should be made illegal and threatened with force/authority/prison.

And even if someone were to overdose on LSD, it would still not be a valid reason to make it illegal.  You can overdose on almost anything including drinking water.  Moderation is key.

Drugs such as marijuana and LSD should be put on the same category as alcohol and tobacco, because they are very harmless substances. Have you ever heard of anyone overdosing on LSD?

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Most people here think that the psychedelics you listed above, are no different than opiates like heroin.  They have one category of "illegal drugs" and can't really comprehend much more than that.  But they'll have no problem going to the hospital and having morphine injected into them, not knowing it's the same as heroin.

I'd consider those psychedelics spiritual as well.  No addictive properties.  People don't die from them.  But they're illegal and most people don't really understand much outside of legality.

Anyways, thanks for sharing your experience and glad you found a way to enter "the zone" and learn about yourself.

Drugs can actually make you happy, or some other form of it, for a limited time. Have you heard of LSD, ayahuasca and DMT? I would call these drugs very spiritual.

I myself have been smoking pot for more than 7 years, but really got the meaning and the true effect a few years ago. It stimulates brain activity and makes me analyze and think deep. Hence the being "high", meaning that the brain is working on a higher frequency.

Don't fall for the system's manipulations, don't also fall for drug addiction. So as with everything, balance is the most important aspect.

People take drugs for a variety of reasons. As long as they don't hurt anyone, it should be fine. On the other hand, some of the governments are waging "war on drugs" against this harmless practice, and wasting billions of USD in tax payer money on it. IMO, the government should rather concentrate on education and healthcare, rather than trying to help the pharma cartels by banning the recreational drugs.

The only ones that I personally wouldn't have an issue with people doing would probably be something along the lines of Marijuana, that's one of the things that I don't fully understand why the government still has it rated on the same class as Cocaine and it still has harsh penalties for usage (given your in a state that hasn't decriminalized marijuana usage or something like that) The rest of the drugs are going to have to be a no-go for me and I wouldn't support them being legalized for recreational usage.

I think theirs a too high chance for death with the others, so negativo.

I see what you dd there. You took "recreational" drugs as meaning drugs one takes when they do recreational activities like sports.

Those drugs are stupid IMO. The other ones? It's not for me to say what other people should or should not put into their bodies, and I am certainly no one to judge.

To each their own as long as they hurt no one.

Causes schizophrenia? Not sure about how loose that link is.  I can see any mind altering substance to be bad for people with mental health instability to begin with, but cannabis definitely doesn't "cause" schizophrenia, and it likely wouldn't help either.

No doubt we've all been fear mongered and brainwashed on how bad illegal drugs are.  But it is astounding to me how ignorant this forum is when each of you have access to the internet, and can do your own research instead of repeating what your grade 3 teacher told you.

Deaths coming from illegal drugs are a drop in the bucket compared to legal drugs.  Is that not something worth looking into?  It clearly doesn't align with what you're saying.  There must be more to the story than "government knows best!".

Start with understanding the history behind alcohol prohibition, and how the idiot who ran that program, Henry Anslinger, moved on to drugs (with Nixon) once alcohol prohibition was deemed an absolute failure.  Then look at the special interests that got behind this movement, to profit from it.  And understand how that propaganda made its way into schools, to get everyone brainwashed as a kid.

You guys talk about every drug as if its an addictive opiate.  There are many other classes of drugs, some with no addictive properties at all.  Also, there are many legal opiates, that are very addictive, and have a huge death toll like oxycontin or morphine.  Why are these legal?  Does that mean it's safe to do?  Does your government only legalize safe drugs (if so, why do so many people die from legal drugs?), or do you maybe need to form your own opinion on this?

Thats not true, because sustained cannabis use with individuals under 25 there are loose links that it causes schizophrenia which depending on the time period(100+years ago) would be labeled as someone seeing or hearing evil thoughts. 

I think it is pretty popular in America where teenagers are getting wasted, faking cards so they can buy drinks and stuffs. But I think doing drugs is taking the "let's get have some fun" line so far. I mean, how do they really make fun? Because from the line itself, it is not the full way of having fun for them.

That's where things start to get interesting.  If you're becoming paranoid, just focus your awareness on your breath next time, and ensure that you're not taking short and shallow breaths.  Longer and deeper breaths will help out.  Then if you're interested, you can revisit and see what was causing your paranoia in the first place 

I'm against  recreational drugs, it s addictive ut can ruins anyones life. If you are addicted to it you will do everything just to get piece of it.  When person is in the influence of drugs, he is not  on his normal state of mind so theres a possibility to hurt someone or maybe ypur love ones.

I've used weed in past, it's funny but in last period I became paranoid. So, it's not good for the brain and for spirit. Is good if you are not addicted.