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Hospital surgeries were cancelled, phone service was knocked out and technicians were sent scrambling on Quebec's north shore after a beaver dam collapsed, chopping a fibre-optic cable.

The Internet was also cut off when the large rodent-made structure gave way on Monday evening along a highway 750 km northeast of Montreal.

The cable was severed at a point where it crosses a river.

The local health network was hit hard. Some labs at the hospital in Sept-Iles, Que., were shut down and appointments were cancelled as a precautionary measure to avoid possible errors during manual data entry.

This past spring, a beaver dam flooded a north shore highway.

BEAVER: FRIEND OR FOE?

Canadians have had a love-hate relationship with our national critter, as evidenced in these stories from recent years:

— Conservative Sen. Nicole Eaton, peeved about chunks chomped from the dock of her cottage, pushed for the polar bear to replace the beaver as Canada's official animal. The senator called the beaver "a has-been" and "a big rat, that doesn't reflect our new values."

— Officials in Bonnyville, Alta., blew up more than 70 beaver dams that threatened to flood farmland.

— Ramara Township, Ont., paid trappers $100 per beaver after the rodents overran the area. "They breed faster than we can trap them," one official said.

— Residents of Ottawa's Stittsville community successfully rallied to prevent the city from killing two beavers that had moved into a local pond.




http://www.torontosun.com/2013/10/02/beaver-dam-collapse-wreaks-havoc-on-quebecs-north-shore

Really?  And all salmon go up the same river?

Just asking.  I mean, come on.  600 species of fish?

It will destroy the route of migrating fish and you can't compare the lake that will form behind the dam with a river. Some species will lose their natural habitat forever

Just curious.

How does putting about a 14x14 square mile piece of land under water kill off 600 species of fish?

Oh god.. I don't want any more hydro power dams. Just take a look at this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belo_Monte_Dam

Another 122,200 acres of Amazon forest gone. And more than 600 species of fish will become extinct.

There is also a proposal for another dam at Babaquara. It will destroy 1,517,000 acres of Amazon forest.

Does not matter.  Hydro is tapped out, while power needs are growing by 2% a year (USA, but probably at least that, worldwide).

A 'tapped out resource' does not compensate for anything which is trailing behind in production...

You will be able to produce nuclear energy for 0.02 Euro / kWh. Then why depend on expensive forms of energy?


I prefer none of the above.

Well, depends on your definition of expensive.
Here in Germany it's 0.08 Euro/kWh, sometimes less.
And the natual beauty...
What do you prefer?
More hurricanes, more cancer or less natural beauty in areas with lots of wind?

True, but it is superior compared to other techniques in many ways. Price, availability, reliability and ability to change amount of production is superior compared to any other method. Point is that hydro is nearly one viable option to compensate the renevables.

I am not a big lover of hydro energy. For generating hydropower, huge dams should be constructed which results in the flooding of millions of hectares of forest and agricultural land. It also alters the natural flow of water.

With 90% availability over the course of year... Never forget that factor.

Price isn't the real killer, it's the consistency.  Hydro is good solution in many ways, but there isn't that much of it in most places...

Wind energy is extremely expensive. And it destroys the natural beauty as well. I will not support wind farms, unless they are capable of producing energy at the rate of less than $ 0.02 per KWH.

You know what worries me, is as we move toward higher AI and even the final AI, they could get hooked up with these windfarms and take them over, then mobilize them and start toward our cities.  Amoured, wind powered war machines towering into the sky, destroying everything in their path on their way to world dominion.

And they don't need fossil fuels to do it!  Neither would they get the fossil fuels, because the deadly, ultra advanced Exxon AI which had taken over the oil rigs...

Okay, I'll shut up now..

Source?

Well, ya, 'renewables' have turned out to be something of an embarrassment to the left.  Too bad about that, really.   Who knows, out of dozens of large scale attempts to get it right, maybe they'll have one or two successes.

Over 100...

Now just to compare it to produced energy...

Ok, and now count the number of deaths caused by wind farms.

Yes. Definitely. But even then the number of people who have died from pollution caused by the thermal power plants will be exponentially higher than those who lost their lives due to nuclear pollution.

Also separate the ones who have died from radiation related diseases resulting from particles released in coal burning...

Exactly.

Note down the number of people who have died during the last century from respiratory illnesses.

Then, note down the number of people who have died of radiation poisoning during the same period.

Which one will be higher? Any guesses?