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Topic: ★ ZEIT ★ [COMMUNITY & KNIGHTS] [ULTRA LOW INFLATION] [MICRO-PAYMENTS] - page 134. (Read 1009280 times)

legendary
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I need 10 members of the community to help me add another exchange with BTC, LTC, & Doge Markets for ZEIT
This way the merchant cointopay will still be able to process ZEIT payments if the Yobit wallet goes offline again.

Only requirement is that you vote to add ZEIT to their exchange, daily for 30 days.
PM me if you are willing to vote daily for 30 days.

Thanks.
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legendary
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hi bro...how are you...we are alittle happy for grow 5000% for Zeitcoin...
but last date...i remember zeitcoin grow until 0.0001 USD...and that day zeitcoin again fault in 0.000005 USD..!!!
you think why?
why zeitcoin yesterday grow 5000% in one time?
and zeitcoin again going to 0.000007USD  --0.0000004USD (for example) ?
We like zeitcoin grow for always....and Trade and exchange in high rate...

Looks like there was a glitch in coinmarketcap reporting software giving the appearance of a 5000% increase.

After a little closer inspection, there was a spike in price at 1 exchange with ~$104 in volume, which should have been less than ~40% of the current volume,
but the glitch in their system caused it to report that 1 exchange as 100% of the volume which maxed the marketcap up to 22 million.

Short Story , Price Spike - Glitch - Coinmarket reporting for ZEIT is offline until they reset it.


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newbie
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Exchange Status
alcurex  Online     
CoinExchange  Online
Cryptopia  Online
SouthXchangeOnline
Yobit Online     


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hi bro...how are you...we are alittle happy for grow 5000% for Zeitcoin...
but last date...i remember zeitcoin grow until 0.0001 USD...and that day zeitcoin again fault in 0.000005 USD..!!!
you think why?
why zeitcoin yesterday grow 5000% in one time?
and zeitcoin again going to 0.000007USD  --0.0000004USD (for example) ?
We like zeitcoin grow for always....and Trade and exchange in high rate...
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
Exchange Status
alcurex  Online     
CoinExchange  Online
Cryptopia  Online
SouthXchangeOnline
Yobit Online     


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legendary
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Merit: 1000

IMO, what we will need first, and most, is a staking mobile wallet - and that will have to wait until the technology permits the storage of much more data than is currently possible, alongside more universal high-speed connectivity.


Or a mobile lightweight client that let's you control your desktop wallet: analogous to a remote desktop type of connectivity to a wallet running on a desktop or a server somewhere.  Would look like, and act like a full wallet, but would just be a front-end controlling your full Zeit wallet remotely.  

What about the billions of souls that don't have - probably won't ever have - a desktop?

And servers - Nope, I don't trust 'em. Insecure, centralised, need I go on?

To the first question, just use a remote control software like logmein.com , it can let you access the entire PC or VPS from a Tablet or Phone.
Building something like that directly into the wallet would be a security issue best if we avoid.

@Lion,
You are correct, there are some countries like Haiti where almost everyone has a cellphone, a web wallet would be there only shot at having a staking wallet.
At the moment the infrastructure for trusted web wallets , that won't disappear at a moment notice is still not available.

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hero member
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Crypto-missionary to the Kingdom of Rhegged

IMO, what we will need first, and most, is a staking mobile wallet - and that will have to wait until the technology permits the storage of much more data than is currently possible, alongside more universal high-speed connectivity.


Or a mobile lightweight client that let's you control your desktop wallet: analogous to a remote desktop type of connectivity to a wallet running on a desktop or a server somewhere.  Would look like, and act like a full wallet, but would just be a front-end controlling your full Zeit wallet remotely. 

What about the billions of souls that don't have - probably won't ever have - a desktop?

And servers - Nope, I don't trust 'em. Insecure, centralised, need I go on?
member
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IMO, what we will need first, and most, is a staking mobile wallet - and that will have to wait until the technology permits the storage of much more data than is currently possible, alongside more universal high-speed connectivity.


Or a mobile lightweight client that let's you control your desktop wallet: analogous to a remote desktop type of connectivity to a wallet running on a desktop or a server somewhere.  Would look like, and act like a full wallet, but would just be a front-end controlling your full Zeit wallet remotely. 
sr. member
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Again, I hope nobody in here believes that ZEIT market cap is worth 90k GBP, because it is not.
A much more reasonable market metric would be total number of coins multiplied by the running average price of the last 30 days to eliminate such glitches.
That would be a more meaningful metric reflecting, at least to some extent, the real market value.
Otherwise, it is just a number that bears absolutely no meaning.

PS. I am a bit surprised that otherwise very reasonable Knights are also falling into this trap. Let's keep our feet on the ground.
PS2. Looking into the order books now, it looks like chart (and 'market cap') painting is over.

Let us dream a little bit Smiley
uki
legendary
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Again, I hope nobody in here believes that ZEIT market cap is worth 90k GBP, because it is not.
A much more reasonable market metric would be total number of coins multiplied by the running average price of the last 30 days to eliminate such glitches.
That would be a more meaningful metric reflecting, at least to some extent, the real market value.
Otherwise, it is just a number that bears absolutely no meaning.

PS. I am a bit surprised that otherwise very reasonable Knights are also falling into this trap. Let's keep our feet on the ground.
PS2. Looking into the order books now, it looks like chart (and 'market cap') painting is over.
hero member
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Crypto-missionary to the Kingdom of Rhegged
HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!!!

Even if it is just a blip, it's so goddam inspiring to see something like this on doing my daily value check...



I take it that's an ATH?
legendary
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Looks to me like a Fourth of July Firework.

2016-07-04 22:42:06    buy    0.00000093    704.20160000    0.00065491


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uki
legendary
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I don't like the exaggeration in any direction. Let's be fair, it is pure chart painting at less than a dust volume:



Not worth mentioning, imo.  

Btw. this is also a perfect example when the 'market cap' metric (at least in the form used at most of the crypto-related webpages) is proved meaningless.
hero member
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legendary
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Would these ads be part of a google ad buy campaign? And will this be an exclusive Zeitcoin business, or will BTC and other crypto be offered?

Because in order for any altcoin to succeed, it must have businesses willing to deal exclusively in that coin.

Additionally, the business must provide an EASY way to buy the coin directly, with FIAT, via credit card or paypal. Just a matter of "download wallet, pay money, zeitcoin deposited to wallet account". And then the customer puts the Zeitcoin into whatever accounts they see fit. And since Zeitcoin grows when it is in your WALLET, the ad buyers will buy more than they need, and allocate zeitcoin only as they need it, and enjoy the 5% interest every 20 days.

Crypto still has a LOT of room to grow, which means we can get new people who don't know about bitcoin into the Zeitcoin fold.



Actually google will not be a part of the ZEIT Ad Network.
Their payment system fairly sucks, with their pay per click scheme.

No our Ad network will be different, still brainstorming it.
Their will be no credit cards or FIAT conversion, it will be a Direct Trade Only 1 ZEIT = 1 Minute of Ad time.
We setup the venue, where people can offer their ad space and other pay in ZEIT.
This way we directly instill value into ZEIT , regardless of any other conversions.

You're right some will prefer direct purchase without using an exchange, we will leave this up to 3rd parties to create that system.
We will also need 3rd Party Escrow agents for some of the ad payments.
Like our coin , we want the ad network to be decentralized, that way if someone else comes up with a better designed AD/ZEIT pairing system, then the more the merrier, because in the long run, our goal is to make sure ZEIT Spreads worldwide with multiple uses.
(One Issue, only direct Text links or Graphic links will be accepted, their will be no flash animations or programming code in the ads as this is the main way viruses are spread in the current ad networks.)
Ours will be more like Billboard Ads, a space is offered and a set amount per time is paid, there is no confusion between how many clicks were received.

 Cool

FYI:
Examples of ad space to be listed include:
BTCTALK Signatures,
Graphics or Text Links Ads on Blogs or Facebook
Web Page Banners or Text Links
Printed Signs or Logos on your Person (TShirt/Button) or Vehicle or Residence
Which the following will also mean Graphic Design Work will be needed , so there will also be a area with graphic designers offering their services for ZEIT to design logos and banners. You host an ad on your Blog , and then use the proceeds to help you buy graphics for your site, and never need to convert it to anything else. Smiley
sr. member
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kiklo, once again, it looks like you haven't read my post. I was writing about buy orders, not sell orders.
That is exactly the point. We have some ZEIT zealots (myself included) who won't drop their coins ever, plus not too many more people interested in joining ZEIT -> people willing to buy 3% of all coins. That is something we need to change, sooner or later, if we want to keep existing in a broader perspective.

As for being visionary, I prefer to be critical about myself in the first place, before saying that world has yet to learn in order to understand me. It is much safer that way. Not offending anyone, in the history we have plenty of examples showing that the difference between being a visionaire and being a lunatic is, indeed, very thin. So, I agree with your point about being patient for the things to resolve our way, but I also believe ZEIT needs some actions to be understood better and become more successful in the crypto community.

In my case Razor ThinWink

Actions are needed, but until we drop out of the 15% rate, not the optimal timing for it.

1. The ZEIT ad network , where people trade ZEIT for banner & other ads, will need to be started within a few months of going to 5% rate.
   Any ideas about this, and how we should accomplish it , is welcome.

2. What actions would you like to see done?


 Cool



Would these ads be part of a google ad buy campaign? And will this be an exclusive Zeitcoin business, or will BTC and other crypto be offered?

Because in order for any altcoin to succeed, it must have businesses willing to deal exclusively in that coin.

Additionally, the business must provide an EASY way to buy the coin directly, with FIAT, via credit card or paypal. Just a matter of "download wallet, pay money, zeitcoin deposited to wallet account". And then the customer puts the Zeitcoin into whatever accounts they see fit. And since Zeitcoin grows when it is in your WALLET, the ad buyers will buy more than they need, and allocate zeitcoin only as they need it, and enjoy the 5% interest every 20 days.

Crypto still has a LOT of room to grow, which means we can get new people who don't know about bitcoin into the Zeitcoin fold.

uki
legendary
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No problem. I'll send you a pm to discuss the details and how to proceed.
Thanks!

Cool,  Smiley


FYI:
New Exchange trading ZEIT is now Online.

https://www.coinexchange.io/market/ZEIT/BTC





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I guess, that is a perfect content for the first keep alive message we can send.
I am not looking for a full-blown PR, but just simple messages with interesting and important news to ZEIT users.
legendary
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No problem. I'll send you a pm to discuss the details and how to proceed.
Thanks!

Cool,  Smiley


FYI:
New Exchange trading ZEIT is now Online.

https://www.coinexchange.io/market/ZEIT/BTC





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hero member
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As for the actions, here is what I think. Even in the so called 'survival phase' when many coins are born and die, ZEIT needs to have something that will mark its presence, and would distinguish it from other dying coins. Something, that will help the crypto SETI enthusiasts to have ZEIT on their radars (please excuse the old-fashioned astronomy analogy). A complete silence is not a best way of advertising a product, if you ask me. My suggestion is to have some form of 'keepalive' message to the community (with a fixed frequency, say once or twice a month), preferably not only in this forum, but to a broader scope (aka social media) to reach as many new users as possible. What could be in such message? To start with, similar things to what we post in this forum, e.g., advertisement of the update of blockchain snapshot, review of the global ZEIT volume in the last month, etc. It doesn't need to big thing, but something to show the activity of community. I believe this could be done without waiting till the 15% PoS rate drops.

OK,
You're in charge of the keep alive messages.   Smiley


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You write it, uki, and I'll make sure it's on our FaceBook page. I post key updates anyway.

No idea who's in charge of twatter Wink
uki
legendary
Activity: 1358
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cryptojunk bag holder
As for the actions, here is what I think. Even in the so called 'survival phase' when many coins are born and die, ZEIT needs to have something that will mark its presence, and would distinguish it from other dying coins. Something, that will help the crypto SETI enthusiasts to have ZEIT on their radars (please excuse the old-fashioned astronomy analogy). A complete silence is not a best way of advertising a product, if you ask me. My suggestion is to have some form of 'keepalive' message to the community (with a fixed frequency, say once or twice a month), preferably not only in this forum, but to a broader scope (aka social media) to reach as many new users as possible. What could be in such message? To start with, similar things to what we post in this forum, e.g., advertisement of the update of blockchain snapshot, review of the global ZEIT volume in the last month, etc. It doesn't need to big thing, but something to show the activity of community. I believe this could be done without waiting till the 15% PoS rate drops.

OK,
You're in charge of the keep alive messages.   Smiley


 Cool
No problem. I'll send you a pm to discuss the details and how to proceed.
Thanks!
sr. member
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5% when it will be _after 15% pos we will see first months dumps i hope  Wink
And then hope 2 sat will be price

5% rate starts when the Block Count hits #3153600.
We are currently at #2643008.
Only ~ 6 months left.

 Cool

Still a long way to go, but good things come to those who wait.  Smiley
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