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Quote from: kiklo on February 28, 2015, 01:12:13 AM

I applaud your passion, but TZM leadership is not needed for the ZCM or ZeitKnights to achieve our goals.

I think you misunderstand me mate. Wink

I'm not advocating for TZM style leadership. I'm saying that when members of TZM "rank and file" see us getting real results and have a much more positive and realistic message (as opposed to the TZM leadership, which has all the vibes of a conspiracy cult), then we'll see growth in our community.

Right now the goal needs to be community growth, and that means finding as many like-minded people and drawing them to our cause as much as possible. While some might come from the crypto community (and the inherently libertarian nature of such folks), I think we'll find a LOT of such people in the TZM, many of whom I am SURE are HIGHLY dissatisfied with the "leadership".

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Quote from: kiklo on February 28, 2015, 01:12:13 AM

I applaud your passion, but TZM leadership is not needed ...

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Passion?!!! More like fun! Just doing my bit:-
http://thezeitgeistmovementforum.org/tzm-celebrity-interest-support/1956-max-keiser-startcoin-currency-zeitgeist-movement.html#post9065

... and thanks for the Private Message about the TZM leadership.

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I applaud your passion, but TZM leadership is not needed for the ZCM or ZeitKnights to achieve our goals.
Zeit will be Global All are welcome to join ZCM.

Zeit will become the virtual resource the world needs and we will make it happen.

ZCM will be a Unifying force.

Just so no Misunderstanding , let me repeat
All are Welcome at ZCM.

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Quote from: stevegreer on February 27, 2015, 11:49:22 PM

Some of the TZM "leaders" even put out an official statement basically condemning the original devs' attempt to attend ZDay and went on record saying that they wanted nothing to do with us because, in their minds, cryptocurrency is no better than fiat currency.

So, you are saying that you failed to convince the TZM with a logical argument? Don't forget that there were many scam coins out there, all making pretentious claims. Perhaps as time has gone on their attitude has changed. Why don't we try again? Abby Martin is the main guest speaker at the Zeitgeist event in Berlin. I believe she is Bitcoin friendly. She also has Peter Josef's ear having interviewed him on her television show.

Incidentally, I don't think that you read the reference material in my posts properly, if at all. The Keiser Twitter post seems to have been a spoof with a doctored Peter Josef YouTube video where he appears to endorse Startcoin, but when compared to the original, he doesn't. There was a Startcoin post on the TZM forum, to which I added my bit.

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Quote from: stevegreer on February 27, 2015, 11:49:22 PM

I agree with kiklo on this one. TZM had their chance last year to stand with us, and they passed it up and even mocked us along the way. Some of the TZM "leaders" even put out an official statement basically condemning the original devs' attempt to attend ZDay and went on record saying that they wanted nothing to do with us because, in their minds, cryptocurrency is no better than fiat currency.

Furthermore, the fact that they are even entertaining Keiser's coin is because of his somewhat celebrity status. Just more proof that TZM has lost its way from what it was started to be. They are nothing more than global sell-outs nowadays.

It still shouldn't stop us from trying to advertise to their members tho. I agree that leadership is a lost cause, but the membership can still be a different story. There is something to be said about branding, and I think that the membership is in need of....shall we say......new leadership. Wink

TZM leadership has lost their way, so I see the TZM audience members as potential recruits, and the people who are most likely to be friendly to what TCM has to offer (esp once we explain that we see Zeitcoin as a necessary stepping stone to an eventual world-wide acceptance of a resource-based economy).

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I agree with kiklo on this one. TZM had their chance last year to stand with us, and they passed it up and even mocked us along the way. Some of the TZM "leaders" even put out an official statement basically condemning the original devs' attempt to attend ZDay and went on record saying that they wanted nothing to do with us because, in their minds, cryptocurrency is no better than fiat currency.

Furthermore, the fact that they are even entertaining Keiser's coin is because of his somewhat celebrity status. Just more proof that TZM has lost its way from what it was started to be. They are nothing more than global sell-outs nowadays.

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Quote from: atronite on February 27, 2015, 09:12:33 PM

Why not put some of the TZM movies in the OP? I'm not sure how well the anti-religious portions would go over for some people, but I'm sure that it would bolster our credentials as the coin for the TZM.
I mean this coin WAS supposed to appeal TO that demographic.

Keywords supposed to
TZM had their chance to be part of the ZCM (Zeit Coin Movement) ,
That window of opportunity was closed for them in 2014, after many passionate arguments were made by others. The only reason, I ever even heard of TZM was because the original dev was hoping, TZM would help zeitcoin gains acceptance. Time Passed original Dev left,
Rent_A_Ray Stepped UP to Become the New Dev & New Zeit Knights are arriving , some have zeitgeist backgrounds, many new to this forum do not.

ZCM & ZeitKnights have our own Ideas on the Best Ways to Help this World.

Speakly directly for myself, We don't need or want the TZM involved with the ZCM, they would just slow us down.

ZCM will be Global , all of us have different ideas from different backgrounds and belief systems , the joining together to make the ideas we all agreed on into reality. ZCM will be for all the People of the World.

I would say the one thing we all share is the Goal to make this World a Better Place for All.
As Time Passes and the Struggles & Challenges ZEIT faces Temper Zeitcoin into The Sword of Equality Fairness & Charity , it will become, and the Fire of that Tempering with be the Persevering Will of the ZeitKnights and the People of the ZCM (Zeit Coin Movement).

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Quote from: a_cat_named_joe on February 27, 2015, 10:01:14 PM

This might be of interest to German members of our community who have a mind to spread the word about Zeitcoin, especially to the TZM powers that be.

The Zeitgeist Movement
7th Annual Zeitgeist Day
March 14th, 2015
Main Event: Berlin Germany

There is an update (dated 26th Feb) on TZM's Facebook page:-

".. ZDAY MAIN EVENT BERLIN UPDATE!!!
The Zday Main Event in Berlin is on pace to selling out. There will be no tickets for sale at the at the door as we cannot add anymore seats + staff in due to fire regulations. If you do not manage to get a ticket in time and you are in the area, you are welcome at the friday social event and the saturday social event. We will be having a livestream of course, for anyone that does not manage to get a ticket in time."

For tickets and further information:-
http://zdayglobal.org/

Would be cool if someone were able to set up a booth with the permission of the event organizers.

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This might be of interest to German members of our community who have a mind to spread the word about Zeitcoin, especially to the TZM powers that be.

The Zeitgeist Movement
7th Annual Zeitgeist Day
March 14th, 2015
Main Event: Berlin Germany

There is an update (dated 26th Feb) on TZM's Facebook page:-

".. ZDAY MAIN EVENT BERLIN UPDATE!!!
The Zday Main Event in Berlin is on pace to selling out. There will be no tickets for sale at the at the door as we cannot add anymore seats + staff in due to fire regulations. If you do not manage to get a ticket in time and you are in the area, you are welcome at the friday social event and the saturday social event. We will be having a livestream of course, for anyone that does not manage to get a ticket in time."

For tickets and further information:-
http://zdayglobal.org/

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Quote from: a_cat_named_joe on February 27, 2015, 07:24:59 PM

A Max Keiser Tweet from a few minutes ago:-

https://twitter.com/maxkeiser

Max Keiser retweeted
Blake Curran @8LAK3y · 37m 37 minutes ago

Startcoin as the currency of #TZM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYZKdYfWans … Blog http://thezeitgeistmovementforum.org/tzm-celebrity-interest-support/1956-max-keiser-startcoin-currency-zeitgeist-movement.html … @tzmglobal @BenMcLeish

YouTube video of a Zeitgeist Movement Global Podcast (25th feb 2015) implies Peter Josef endorses Startcoin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYZKdYfWans

Catch 4mins, 7mins and 9 mins in. Fakery? ... Wink

See also the Startcoin/TZM post on the TZM website http://thezeitgeistmovementforum.org/tzm-celebrity-interest-support/1956-max-keiser-startcoin-currency-zeitgeist-movement.html

Timely reminder that we should be reaching out to people and communities who could benefit by adopting Zeitcoin. It was designed and nurtured by Zeitgeist Movement followers wasn't it? If at first you don't succeed ...

Why not put some of the TZM movies in the OP? I'm not sure how well the anti-religious portions would go over for some people, but I'm sure that it would bolster our credentials as the coin for the TZM.

I mean this coin WAS supposed to appeal TO that demographic.

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I've just posted a reply to the Startcoin/TZM post on the TZM forum:-
http://thezeitgeistmovementforum.org/tzm-celebrity-interest-support/1956-max-keiser-startcoin-currency-zeitgeist-movement.html#post9065
Hope it meets with community approval.

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Well done, uki Grin

That makes you #14 I think.

Check your PMs for TeamSpeak information.

ALL KNIGHTS:-

If you are already registered on our own forum, but don't have access to our private 'Knight Club' Wink

yet, please PM your username to myself or Ray.

If you're not registered, then please do it asap, then do as above.

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Quote from: Mitras on February 27, 2015, 07:28:05 PM

Quote from: atronite on February 27, 2015, 06:30:25 PM

Quote from: brian_nguyen on February 27, 2015, 06:15:14 PM

Quote from: atronite on February 27, 2015, 05:41:03 PM

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#17 on the rich list Shocked

Now we just need to get to $1.00/Zeit and we're set Wink

Well then I guess I can sell all of mine to you for a penny per zeit and then you can make over 100 fold return on your investment. It's a great deal, right? Cheesy

Atronite your right but I guess no one here would buy your coins for even 2000$!
If I look at cryptsy I can't believe that the coin even gets worth 0.0001$.
It's to easy to manipulate the price because of the extremely small volume.

For $2000 i could spike the price to 10x it's current value if i wanted to, but then it would take forever to unwind my position. In fact, I'm pretty sure it would take only 5 BTC to fill every buy AND sell order on cryptsy and empty the markets.

A BTC pairing would help things a little bit, but we need both higher volume and higher prices to convince Crypsy that we even deserve it. As things stand now, we'd end up trading between 1 and 2 satoshi.

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Quote from: atronite on February 27, 2015, 06:30:25 PM

Quote from: brian_nguyen on February 27, 2015, 06:15:14 PM

Quote from: atronite on February 27, 2015, 05:41:03 PM

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Name: Atronite
Address MmnvgYGGmSFDwRRU1PwwPfbZfaEctPL98B
Balance 298,543,434.324307 ZEIT
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#17 on the rich list Shocked

Now we just need to get to $1.00/Zeit and we're set Wink

Well then I guess I can sell all of mine to you for a penny per zeit and then you can make over 100 fold return on your investment. It's a great deal, right? Cheesy

Atronite your right but I guess no one here would buy your coins for even 2000$!
If I look at cryptsy I can't believe that the coin even gets worth 0.0001$.
It's to easy to manipulate the price because of the extremely small volume.

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A Max Keiser Tweet from a few minutes ago:-

https://twitter.com/maxkeiser

"Max Keiser retweeted
Blake Curran @8LAK3y · 37m 37 minutes ago

Startcoin as the currency of #TZM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYZKdYfWans … Blog http://thezeitgeistmovementforum.org/tzm-celebrity-interest-support/1956-max-keiser-startcoin-currency-zeitgeist-movement.html … @tzmglobal @BenMcLeish "

YouTube video of a Zeitgeist Movement Global Podcast (25th feb 2015) implies Peter Josef endorses Startcoin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYZKdYfWans

Catch 4mins, 7mins and 9 mins in. Fakery? ... Wink

See also the Startcoin/TZM post on the TZM website http://thezeitgeistmovementforum.org/tzm-celebrity-interest-support/1956-max-keiser-startcoin-currency-zeitgeist-movement.html

Timely reminder that we should be reaching out to people and communities who could benefit by adopting Zeitcoin. It was designed and nurtured by Zeitgeist Movement followers wasn't it? If at first you don't succeed ...

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Quote from: atronite on February 27, 2015, 05:41:03 PM

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Name: Atronite
Address MmnvgYGGmSFDwRRU1PwwPfbZfaEctPL98B
Balance 298,543,434.324307 ZEIT
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#17 on the rich list Shocked

Congrats, Atronite.
Obviously you'll have to wait for kiklo for the official confirmation but I've sent you details for our TeamSpeak server, hope to see you there on Sunday.

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Quote from: brian_nguyen on February 27, 2015, 06:15:14 PM

Quote from: atronite on February 27, 2015, 05:41:03 PM

_________________________________________________
Proof of ZeitKnight

Name: Atronite
Address MmnvgYGGmSFDwRRU1PwwPfbZfaEctPL98B
Balance 298,543,434.324307 ZEIT
__________________________________________________________________________

#17 on the rich list Shocked

Now we just need to get to $1.00/Zeit and we're set Wink

Well then I guess I can sell all of mine to you for a penny per zeit and then you can make over 100 fold return on your investment. It's a great deal, right? Cheesy

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