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newra

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Quote from: Rent_a_Ray on February 24, 2015, 06:22:37 PM

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If you send coins with computer 1, computer 2 does not know a possible new generated change (back) address. After some time, you have 2 different wallets with a different coin amount and many different key pairs. It ends up in chaos.
A wallet is a container for many private and public keys - like a key chain. Amount of coins is a summation of all addresses.

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One workaround is to always use coin-control when sending and explicitly send the change back to an existing address.

kiklo

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Quote from: FWBlack on February 24, 2015, 08:40:02 PM

Finally synced up after the 2 restart...

If you are in the US, the cold snap has a lot of people home on the internet.
Some ISPs are having a hard time keeping up.
My home Wallet has had to be restarted a few times.
But on my VPS it has stay synced no problem.

Quote from: jdragon on February 24, 2015, 08:53:17 PM

Mine not out of sync
and it is mining but they all "generate but not accepted"
What does that meant and how can i fix that

Means you have to wait , until your blocks have enough weight to win at staking.
Our Blocks compete to stake, if you get an orphan , then someone else's block had more weight & staked.
Every day older is an increase in the block weight.

Cool

jdragon

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Mine not out of sync

and it is mining but they all "generate but not accepted"

What does that meant and how can i fix that

FWBlack

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Finally synced up after the 2 restart...

LionOfNarnia

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Crypto-missionary to the Kingdom of Rhegged

I've not seen any such problems (North of England).

In sync with solid 11 connections all day.

FWBlack

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Is anyone else having issues with their wallet staying in sync? My wallet was open all day, was in sync this mornign when I left for work. I bought a lot of Zeit on Cryptsy today and want to move it to my wallet but it was out of sync and only had 2 connections when I got home tonight. I've closed it and it's been syncing for over 2 hours and has not synced yet. The number of connections is going up and down a lot, between 4 and 12. I'm going to close and restart it one more time.

Just curious if it's just me...

Rent_a_Ray

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In any case, you're right but you don't lose any coins and you could solve it with a -rescan. Wink

kiklo

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Quote from: Rent_a_Ray on February 24, 2015, 06:22:37 PM

That's not the problem, kiklo.

If you send coins with computer 1, computer 2 does not know a possible new generated change (back) address. After some time, you have 2 different wallets with a different coin amount and many different key pairs. It ends up in chaos.
A wallet is a container for many private and public keys - like a key chain. Amount of coins is a summation of all addresses.

Ok,
But won't 1 side effect be what was in my example or am I off base with that train of thought?

Cool

jwinterm

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Quote from: Rent_a_Ray on February 24, 2015, 06:22:37 PM

That's not the problem, kiklo.

If you send coins with computer 1, computer 2 does not know a possible new generated change (back) address. After some time, you have 2 different wallets with a different coin amount and many different key pairs. It ends up in chaos.
A wallet is a container for many private and public keys - like a key chain. Amount of coins is a summation of all addresses.

Just the opposite:
NXT has one private and one public key. You can use it where ever you want - simultaneously.

Or just use an electrum style deterministic wallet, and then you don't have to worry about this issue either...

Rent_a_Ray

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That's not the problem, kiklo.

If you send coins with computer 1, computer 2 does not know a possible new generated change (back) address. After some time, you have 2 different wallets with a different coin amount and many different key pairs. It ends up in chaos.
A wallet is a container for many private and public keys - like a key chain. Amount of coins is a summation of all addresses.

Just the opposite:
NXT has one private and one public key. You can use it where ever you want - simultaneously.

kiklo

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Quote from: uki on February 24, 2015, 05:31:56 PM

Quote from: Rent_a_Ray on February 24, 2015, 02:51:41 PM

Caution. Please - never use the same wallet on different devices. They will drift and you will lose coins.
Sharing a wallet among multiple computers ends up going badly.
After 100 addresses, a wallet generates 100 further random addresses. You can use ONE wallet on an external device - but never copy the wallet to different devices. Wink

Didn't know that either. Is it something particular to ZEIT or it applies to most of qt-wallets?

Applies to all wallets, because transactions may not be recorded in the other wallet.
Example: You sent out some coins from your wallet on the home PC.
The outgoing transactions was recorded by the network but is not recorded on the wallet on the laptop.
Then you try to sent some coins out from your laptop and the network denies them , because the network sees they were already sent.

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uki

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Quote from: Rent_a_Ray on February 24, 2015, 02:51:41 PM

Caution. Please - never use the same wallet on different devices. They will drift and you will lose coins.
Sharing a wallet among multiple computers ends up going badly.
After 100 addresses, a wallet generates 100 further random addresses. You can use ONE wallet on an external device - but never copy the wallet to different devices. Wink

Didn't know that either. Is it something particular to ZEIT or it applies to most of qt-wallets?

kiklo

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Quote from: brian_nguyen on February 24, 2015, 02:14:04 PM

Does anyone else have orphan issue beside me? I haven't notice as much before and started Zeitcoin with the repairwallet didn't remove them.

Quote from: Furio on February 24, 2015, 03:46:29 PM

My wallet couldn't sync for over 24 hours, in that time it staked alot of coins, yet all orphans Sad

When you get multiple orphans like that and the client is not in sync.
IMO, you were heading off on separate fork, you were out of sync because no one else matches the fork you are on, if that happens close your wallet and then you restart it , it will line up with the correct path.
If this happens alot to you, the best option would be to Encrypt your wallet and only Unlock it to stake when the Wallet is completely synced (green checkmark at the bottom right) , this will cut down on your orphans.

Getting orphans is normal, but the out of sync part added means that you can't mint until it is in sync.
For people that only open the zeit wallet occasionally , it will cut down on the network orphans , if you wait until synced before unlocking the wallet to stake.

@Ray,
The dropbox link for the download is still good,
the Mega link changed at the last update to
https://mega.co.nz/#!7JwFWazC!kdPDb-USzYdnIMlUCjWn_TnflWbsVmLbetNWK9rIWeo
dropping the mediafire , they had upload issues.

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Quote from: Furio on February 24, 2015, 03:46:29 PM

My wallet couldn't sync for over 24 hours, in that time it staked alot of coins, yet all orphans Sad

ya but you didn't loose any coin days, so what it the problemo? Grin

Furio

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My wallet couldn't sync for over 24 hours, in that time it staked alot of coins, yet all orphans Sad

atronite

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Quote from: Rent_a_Ray on February 24, 2015, 02:51:41 PM

Caution. Please - never use the same wallet on different devices. They will drift and you will lose coins.
Sharing a wallet among multiple computers ends up going badly.
After 100 addresses, a wallet generates 100 further random addresses. You can use ONE wallet on an external device - but never copy wallets to different devices. Wink

That's good to know.

So, been away for a couple months. Looks like there's been a couple wallet updates so I'll have to upgrade when I get home.

And only 4 more days before I miss my chance to be a knight! Shocked

And liking the price appreciation so far.

What else I miss?

Rent_a_Ray

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Caution. Please - never use the same wallet on different devices. They will drift and you will lose coins.
Sharing a wallet among multiple computers ends up going badly.
After 100 addresses, a wallet generates 100 further random addresses. You can use ONE wallet on an external device - but never copy the wallet to different devices. Wink

brian_nguyen

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Quote from: Rent_a_Ray on February 24, 2015, 02:25:47 PM

Quote from: brian_nguyen on February 24, 2015, 02:14:04 PM

Does anyone else have orphan issue beside me? I haven't notice as much before and started Zeitcoin with the repairwallet didn't remove them.

You cannot remove them. It's how POS works. Everything seems OK.

Quote from: uki on February 24, 2015, 02:23:45 PM

^^
No, I haven't noticed any increased rate of orphans. Staking as normally. Probably it has to do with how much coins you have in a single chunk, with very little chunks being more probable to produce orphans. A good remedy is to group coins into bigger blocks with coin control option - once the block is mature, you will get your stake faster than with several smaller blocks.

I think I accidentally unlocked my second wallet on another PC that day. That will do it every time. Wink

Rent_a_Ray

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Quote from: brian_nguyen on February 24, 2015, 02:14:04 PM

Does anyone else have orphan issue beside me? I haven't notice as much before and started Zeitcoin with the repairwallet didn't remove them.

You cannot remove them. It's how POS works. Everything seems OK.

uki

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^^
No, I haven't noticed any increased rate of orphans. Staking as normally. Probably it has to do with how much coins you have in a single chunk, with very little chunks being more probable to produce orphans. A good remedy is to group coins into bigger blocks with coin control option - once the block is mature, you will get your stake faster than with several smaller blocks.

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