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Topic: ★ ZEIT ★ [COMMUNITY & KNIGHTS] [ULTRA LOW INFLATION] [MICRO-PAYMENTS] - page 595. (Read 1009334 times)

legendary
Activity: 1148
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Official Zeitcoin community ambassador
Just a hint. The amount of ZEIT lost in CR is most likely more than what any developer has or what was ever premined. So i would NOT call for the devs all the time. You wouldnt ask the federal reserve for help if you got robbed either. They at least could make up the money for you. With crypto this is not possible.

If anything you should go for the exchange. Get some more people that lost money. Gather all your transactions and proof you have. And then try to use a public voice like the coindesk to put pressure on that lazy exchange. Thats what i would aim for. Emails are easily ignored. I feel sorry and its some real bad publicity for the coin. But in any case. For now you probably should think of most of the coins as gone for good. Probably there will be some refund from the collective pool that was initiated by ZEITCOIN (a few pages back).

The developers and this community are a good start but nobody here offers any ZEITCOIN insurance.



My coins gone for good = me coming here everyday 10x a day and letting everyone know what happened. (trust me I got the time)

At least get your facts straight before threatening to come on here 10 times a day and "let everyone know what happened." That's a real quick way to get blacklisted here. It's a very easy thing for everyone to just click the ignore button and be done with you. I still don't understand why you are buying CR's bullshit stories and why you are coming on here demanding action from the devs. You need to be spamming the hell out of CR, not us. Like I said before, it's not our fault you lost your coins. The relief fund did NOT have to be set up at all in the first place. The devs did that of their own free will, and the members of this community donated to it out of their own generosity. I repeat... NO ONE HAD TO DO THAT AT ALL! So don't come in here posting BS from cyrptorush. They are obviously in self-preservation mode because they know they screwed up and caused this mess. And since they have a lot to lose by admitting fault, they immediately blame the devs instead. Get your facts straight and don't make pale threats here. You aren't making any allies by doing what you are doing.
hero member
Activity: 535
Merit: 500
thank god i got my coins from coinex to mintpal in time. just to be safe im transfering to wallet. btw that story about pump and dump is so stupid. why would anyone attempt a pump when there are billions of coins being dumped lol. at least wait until distribution phase is over.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
*Is already wondering whether the CR fund will need to become the CR/Coinex fund*

 Shocked
Coinex seems to be still alive

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7413535
I lay on the account 18LTC coinex.pv I hope that they will return
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
Crypto-missionary to the Kingdom of Rhegged
On a different topic.

I was just fascinated while listening to Andreas M. Antonopoulos
speaking at the L.A. Bitcoin Meetup - January 9, 2014
on how he found out about btc and what could be possible
with the technology. He is a really good speaker and very motivating. Smiley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTPQKyAq-DM


Thanks for posting this, absolutely fascinating.

Shared on FB Cheesy
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 501
in defi we trust
On a different topic.

I was just fascinated while listening to Andreas M. Antonopoulos
speaking at the L.A. Bitcoin Meetup - January 9, 2014
on how he found out about btc and what could be possible
with the technology. He is a really good speaker and very motivating. Smiley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTPQKyAq-DM


+1. Unlike the rest of the foundation.
member
Activity: 93
Merit: 10
Have a ZEIT, have a kitkat.
On a different topic.

I was just fascinated while listening to Andreas M. Antonopoulos
speaking at the L.A. Bitcoin Meetup - January 9, 2014
on how he found out about btc and what could be possible
with the technology. He is a really good speaker and very motivating. Smiley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTPQKyAq-DM
sr. member
Activity: 424
Merit: 250
Guys, why the giant sell walls on Mintpal??   Take'em down

member
Activity: 93
Merit: 10
Have a ZEIT, have a kitkat.
*Is already wondering whether the CR fund will need to become the CR/Coinex fund*

 Shocked

Yeah. I have no idea about the risk in coinex but it sure seems that using an exchange is risky in itself.
I will take a closer look at https://coin-swap.net
Mabye that and local-bitcoins is the way to go.
member
Activity: 102
Merit: 10
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
*Is already wondering whether the CR fund will need to become the CR/Coinex fund*

 Shocked
Coinex seems to be still alive
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 534
Just a hint. The amount of ZEIT lost in CR is most likely more than what any developer has or what was ever premined. So i would NOT call for the devs all the time. You wouldnt ask the federal reserve for help if you got robbed either. They at least could make up the money for you. With crypto this is not possible.

If anything you should go for the exchange. Get some more people that lost money. Gather all your transactions and proof you have. And then try to use a public voice like the coindesk to put pressure on that lazy exchange. Thats what i would aim for. Emails are easily ignored. I feel sorry and its some real bad publicity for the coin. But in any case. For now you probably should think of most of the coins as gone for good. Probably there will be some refund from the collective pool that was initiated by ZEITCOIN (a few pages back).

The developers and this community are a good start but nobody here offers any ZEITCOIN insurance.



My coins gone for good = me coming here everyday 10x a day and letting everyone know what happened. (trust me I got the time)
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
Crypto-missionary to the Kingdom of Rhegged
*Is already wondering whether the CR fund will need to become the CR/Coinex fund*

 Shocked
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 534
Ok, i gonna have to sell my Zeitcoin, the risk is just to high for a fork in the chain and loosing all i have. Iam sorry ppl iam out.


Why do you say that? What happened???[/b]

I still haven't been paid the 2.4 million zeitcoin I'm owed for when zeitcoin forked last time and all coins were lost on cryptorush. Developers of zeitcoin said they would make this right... how long???

You have no idea what you are talking about. So long!




? Cryptorushin told me they can't give me my 2.4 million zeitcoin because there was a fork or something and the developers didnt tell the exchange and some how my coins were lost because of this. So yes maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but I do know my coins aren't here and the developers said they were going to replace them. still waiting.

I thought you said you were leaving. There was no fork, CR lied to you, and the developers might be able to help you out, but they don't owe you anything.

I still have no been paid back the 2.4 million zeitcoins from the coins that were supposedly being collected to reimburse those effected. I have tried time and time again to contact development through email and on here and never get a response.

and you shouldn't be if you keep acting this stupid.

there is a fund setup to help those affected, i have donated to that fund
once cryptorush releases data on who was affected, those funds will be distributed fairly to help those affected
if they dont, i expect the dev will refund the donations or find a better purpose for them.

WOW. I thought this community was suppose to be friendly and helpful? What is going on lately with zeitcoin? I am a victim to losing my zeitcoin due to some glitch and this is the response I get? I have proof of the coins I have lost, so what is the dev waiting for? I have been VERY patient but there is a point where you have to realize the reality is you are probably getting burned. If that is the case ( I am getting burned) I am going to warn people here so they don't get burned too. It's the right thing to do, and you don't gotta be all rude about it.

Its frustrating to see people like you come on here without doing a single bit of due diligence about what has happened, and then expect us to just be customer service reps for you. If you bother at any time to use the search function or to read through the thread or to click on the OPs name an look through his posts, you would have every answer to every one of your questions.

None of us nor the Dev owe anybody any money or any more time explaining the situation. Cryptorush fucked up their wallet and allowed transactions to be reversed, but only on the zeitcoin side. Thats it, end of story. If can complain to CR about it but they aren't going to give it back to you nor have any interest to do so.

Until CR gives a list of everyone whos zeitcoin has been lost, there is NOTHING The dev, The community, even myself can do for you or anyone else who lost zeit on CR.

So again, call us an unfriendly community if you like, ignorance is bliss as they say.

It's frustrating to see member of the community who had their coins stolen due to some glitch come and ask for the coins that were supposedly being collected to help us? Un-fucking-believable. According to the official PR response from zeitcoin the proof they need is a picture of my balance, not for cryptorush to send them any data. I talked to cryptorush and they said there is and never has been any talks about them sending over data about peoples wallet balances so that is a LIE. So why are you going around making up bullshit? And why are you pointing your finger of the zeitcoin community (the victims) as if they did something wrong? I have no more patience. If I am going to get scammed out of my zeitcoin, I will let everyone know what's going on here so it doesn't happen to them too.
member
Activity: 93
Merit: 10
Have a ZEIT, have a kitkat.
Just a hint. The amount of ZEIT lost in CR is most likely more than what any developer has or what was ever premined. So i would NOT call for the devs all the time. You wouldnt ask the federal reserve for help if you got robbed either. They at least could make up the money for you. With crypto this is not possible.

If anything you should go for the exchange. Get some more people that lost money. Gather all your transactions and proof you have. And then try to use a public voice like the coindesk to put pressure on that lazy exchange. Thats what i would aim for. Emails are easily ignored. I feel sorry and its some real bad publicity for the coin. But in any case. For now you probably should think of most of the coins as gone for good. Probably there will be some refund from the collective pool that was initiated by ZEITCOIN (a few pages back).

The developers and this community are a good start but nobody here offers any ZEITCOIN insurance.

full member
Activity: 127
Merit: 100
Ok, i gonna have to sell my Zeitcoin, the risk is just to high for a fork in the chain and loosing all i have. Iam sorry ppl iam out.


Why do you say that? What happened???[/b]

I still haven't been paid the 2.4 million zeitcoin I'm owed for when zeitcoin forked last time and all coins were lost on cryptorush. Developers of zeitcoin said they would make this right... how long???

You have no idea what you are talking about. So long!




? Cryptorushin told me they can't give me my 2.4 million zeitcoin because there was a fork or something and the developers didnt tell the exchange and some how my coins were lost because of this. So yes maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but I do know my coins aren't here and the developers said they were going to replace them. still waiting.

I thought you said you were leaving. There was no fork, CR lied to you, and the developers might be able to help you out, but they don't owe you anything.

I still have no been paid back the 2.4 million zeitcoins from the coins that were supposedly being collected to reimburse those effected. I have tried time and time again to contact development through email and on here and never get a response.

and you shouldn't be if you keep acting this stupid.

there is a fund setup to help those affected, i have donated to that fund
once cryptorush releases data on who was affected, those funds will be distributed fairly to help those affected
if they dont, i expect the dev will refund the donations or find a better purpose for them.

WOW. I thought this community was suppose to be friendly and helpful? What is going on lately with zeitcoin? I am a victim to losing my zeitcoin due to some glitch and this is the response I get? I have proof of the coins I have lost, so what is the dev waiting for? I have been VERY patient but there is a point where you have to realize the reality is you are probably getting burned. If that is the case ( I am getting burned) I am going to warn people here so they don't get burned too. It's the right thing to do, and you don't gotta be all rude about it.

Its frustrating to see people like you come on here without doing a single bit of due diligence about what has happened, and then expect us to just be customer service reps for you. If you bother at any time to use the search function or to read through the thread or to click on the OPs name an look through his posts, you would have every answer to every one of your questions.

None of us nor the Dev owe anybody any money or any more time explaining the situation. Cryptorush fucked up their wallet and allowed transactions to be reversed, but only on the zeitcoin side. Thats it, end of story. If can complain to CR about it but they aren't going to give it back to you nor have any interest to do so.

Until CR gives a list of everyone whos zeitcoin has been lost, there is NOTHING The dev, The community, even myself can do for you or anyone else who lost zeit on CR.

So again, call us an unfriendly community if you like, ignorance is bliss as they say.
newbie
Activity: 76
Merit: 0
This community is friendly AND helpful , but you have to wait !

When CR releases the DATA with all the adresses that have been affected, Zeit dev will make a move... till now CR didn't give any sign of life ragarding THEIR mistake !

Please be patient and wait for the dev to give you a reply !

Don't forget that all here have a real life ... 8to17 work , family.... Wink
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 534
Ok, i gonna have to sell my Zeitcoin, the risk is just to high for a fork in the chain and loosing all i have. Iam sorry ppl iam out.


Why do you say that? What happened???[/b]

I still haven't been paid the 2.4 million zeitcoin I'm owed for when zeitcoin forked last time and all coins were lost on cryptorush. Developers of zeitcoin said they would make this right... how long???

You have no idea what you are talking about. So long!




? Cryptorushin told me they can't give me my 2.4 million zeitcoin because there was a fork or something and the developers didnt tell the exchange and some how my coins were lost because of this. So yes maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but I do know my coins aren't here and the developers said they were going to replace them. still waiting.

I thought you said you were leaving. There was no fork, CR lied to you, and the developers might be able to help you out, but they don't owe you anything.

I still have no been paid back the 2.4 million zeitcoins from the coins that were supposedly being collected to reimburse those effected. I have tried time and time again to contact development through email and on here and never get a response.

and you shouldn't be if you keep acting this stupid.

there is a fund setup to help those affected, i have donated to that fund
once cryptorush releases data on who was affected, those funds will be distributed fairly to help those affected
if they dont, i expect the dev will refund the donations or find a better purpose for them.

WOW. I thought this community was suppose to be friendly and helpful? What is going on lately with zeitcoin? I am a victim to losing my zeitcoin due to some glitch and this is the response I get? I have proof of the coins I have lost, so what is the dev waiting for? I have been VERY patient but there is a point where you have to realize the reality is you are probably getting burned. If that is the case ( I am getting burned) I am going to warn people here so they don't get burned too. It's the right thing to do, and you don't gotta be all rude about it.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 534
Here's the reply I got from Cryptorush:

Dear Elokane,

Hello, and thank you for contacting Crypto Rush. No, we will not be able to allow the withdrawal of Zeitcoin or reimburse you their worth in Bitcoin. Due to a problem with a Zeitcoin Daemon update that was released by the ZEIT developers without proper testing, Zeitcoin has been removed from our exchange.

Please see our official statement here: https://cryptorush.in/documents/ZeitcoinPublicSta...

Please read the Zeitcoin Official Statement here: http://zeit-coin.com/ZEITofficialstatement.pdf

In reponse to:
The Zeitcoin team does take some responsibility in this issue, however we feel that CryptoRush
being the large exchange that they are would do their due diligence before performing any
upgrades and discuss with the coin developers first hand before implementing such changes.
Their current request is for us to hand over the missing ZEIT to them so they can handle the
reimbursements, however we feel as if our team is competent and capable enough to resolve this
issue between us and the community. CryptoRush has assumed no responsibility for this issue
even though there were no issues on any other exchanges (CoinEx, Bittrex, UseCryptos,
Pmtocoins) that supports Zeitcoin trading.
We do believe that one other exchange was affected (CoinEx), as they halted trading of ZEIT for 2 days.

A full description of the events as they occurred are as follows:
1. The Zeitcoin Developers updated their github source, and we updated our daemon in response as we do with all coins.
2. At least 24 hours passed before it was realized that a TX fee bug in their update was present.
3. We worked with them to fix the bug and a solution was found.
4. Upon updating to the fixed daemon, all zeitcoin transactions during the time of the bug were reversed by the daemon, but the BTC transfers were not effected. This reversal was not realized until later.
5. Users withdrew coins that no longer belonged to them, gaining both BTC and ZEIT from the Zeit wallet reversal.

TL;DR: The Zeitcoin daemon update reversed internal trades, allowing users that had sold coins to withdraw them, while keeping the BTC.

We are in the process of contacting the Zeitcoin devs in order to supply them with any information they need.

Due to the issues with Zeitcoin as per our public statement, you can no longer withdraw ZeitCoins. Please refer to the Zeitcoin public statement http://zeit-coin.com/ZEITofficialstatement.pdf which aims to help users who were affected to get back their coins by emailing [email protected] . To reiterate, there are no Zeitcoins left on this site and they refuse to give us the money to pay you. You must contact them directly.

Sorry for the delay and inconvenience.

Your Crypto Rush Support Team,




I am sorry for your 164,000,000 ZEIT. At what price did you buy them? You should threaten them if they don't pay back the equivalent in BTC that you will raise all hell in forums. Most other people I heard from here "only" lost a few million, but I think you lost the most. Hope you get part of it back, either from the fund that is set up here or through the rotten exchange.

I am giving it a few more days to see if anything is resolved, either through the devs or through Cryptorush, before making any further move.

WARNINGSame thing is happening to me. Just to let you know I have been emailing the dev for days and trying to contact them through here and i get NO RESPONSE! I really had high hopes for this coin, I hope they can fix this issue for us. Zietcoin development can you please help us with this issue!?
hero member
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Crypto-missionary to the Kingdom of Rhegged

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/patience


pa·tience
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noun
1.
the quality of being patient, as the bearing of provocation, annoyance, misfortune, or pain, without complaint, loss of temper, irritation, or the like.
2.
an ability or willingness to suppress restlessness or annoyance when confronted with delay: to have patience with a slow learner.
3.
quiet, steady perseverance; even-tempered care; diligence: to work with patience.
sr. member
Activity: 338
Merit: 251
When are we getting this thing on coinmarket cap?
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