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Topic: ★ ZEIT ★ [COMMUNITY & KNIGHTS] [ULTRA LOW INFLATION] [MICRO-PAYMENTS] - page 594. (Read 1009334 times)

legendary
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Official Zeitcoin community ambassador
I find it interesting that once people started asking questions in the previous thread, you locked it and started a self moderating one. That indicates a level of insecurity, immaturity and paranoia that I find alarming

We changed the thread because we changed the coin from POW to POW/POS if you aren't smart enough to realize that I don't have to justify anything to you nor take your ridiculous accusations

I find it interesting that I remembered this message being written previously:

I find it interesting that once people started asking questions in the previous thread, you locked it and started a self moderating one. That indicates a level of insecurity, immaturity and paranoia that I find alarming.

It's interesting what we find interesting.

Now that is interesting!
full member
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I am a Supporter of . . . . TZM & TVP
I find it interesting that once people started asking questions in the previous thread, you locked it and started a self moderating one. That indicates a level of insecurity, immaturity and paranoia that I find alarming

We changed the thread because we changed the coin from POW to POW/POS if you aren't smart enough to realize that I don't have to justify anything to you nor take your ridiculous accusations

I find it interesting that I remembered this message being written previously:

I find it interesting that once people started asking questions in the previous thread, you locked it and started a self moderating one. That indicates a level of insecurity, immaturity and paranoia that I find alarming.

It's interesting what we find interesting.
sr. member
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thank god i got my coins from coinex to mintpal in time. just to be safe im transfering to wallet. btw that story about pump and dump is so stupid. why would anyone attempt a pump when there are billions of coins being dumped lol. at least wait until distribution phase is over.

Me too and now the coins resting in my wallet
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
Official Zeitcoin community ambassador
I find it interesting that once people started asking questions in the previous thread, you locked it and started a self moderating one. That indicates a level of insecurity, immaturity and paranoia that I find alarming

We changed the thread because we changed the coin from POW to POW/POS if you aren't smart enough to realize that I don't have to justify anything to you nor take your ridiculous accusations

Thank you! I wanted so badly to post a response to this troll, but since you are online right now I thought you should get the honor of responding first.
hero member
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I find it interesting that once people started asking questions in the previous thread, you locked it and started a self moderating one. That indicates a level of insecurity, immaturity and paranoia that I find alarming

We changed the thread because we changed the coin from POW to POW/POS if you aren't smart enough to realize that I don't have to justify anything to you nor take your ridiculous accusations
member
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I'm not trying to say CR didn't completely screw up (that was the point I was trying to make at the end of the post), just that CR didn't intionally screw up, they were just crap at their jobs.

I wish people understood this. It wasn't Zeitcoins fault. CR just jumped to update fast, which as an exchange, they should never do because there was no official "update" posted by Zeitcoin. Bitcoin/Litecoin/etc source changes a lot, you don't see places like coinbase dropping because of this kind of stuff. They're smarter than that. It was just CR not understanding they shouldn't jump to update immediately. Plenty of people did this with Doge and caused massive issues. People need to learn from previous mistakes.
full member
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I am a Supporter of . . . . TZM & TVP
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there WAS a commit put on the github

Yeahh ok .. a commit. Do you develop software?
I mean committing is like hitting enter while typing text.
I tried to compile the git-code several times. 3 out of 4 it didnt even compile.
If i were a developer in charge of several thousand $ worth of transactions i would NEVER rely on "there is a commit". Wink

There is a saying "commit and run is a crime" which means you should not "commit untested code before taking hollidays".
However why does that saying exist in the first place? Cheesy
You see there is a reason to be cautious with what an existing commit means.

Another good example is the "brown paper bag release" http://lwn.net/1999/0204/kernel.php3


No I'm not a dev at all. The best I've done is compile stuff from source and occasionally tweaked that source when there was an error that hadn't been resolved but I'd found a post letting me know how to resolve it.

I'm not trying to say CR didn't completely screw up (that was the point I was trying to make at the end of the post), just that CR didn't intionally screw up, they were just crap at their jobs.
People will continue to use them though and justify using them in their own personal way. I stopped using CoinEx because they screwed me and right now, I'm feeling smug (and guilty about feeling smug).
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Ok, i gonna have to sell my Zeitcoin, the risk is just to high for a fork in the chain and loosing all i have. Iam sorry ppl iam out.


Why do you say that? What happened???[/b]

I still haven't been paid the 2.4 million zeitcoin I'm owed for when zeitcoin forked last time and all coins were lost on cryptorush. Developers of zeitcoin said they would make this right... how long???

You have no idea what you are talking about. So long!




? Cryptorushin told me they can't give me my 2.4 million zeitcoin because there was a fork or something and the developers didnt tell the exchange and some how my coins were lost because of this. So yes maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but I do know my coins aren't here and the developers said they were going to replace them. still waiting.

I thought you said you were leaving. There was no fork, CR lied to you, and the developers might be able to help you out, but they don't owe you anything.

I still have no been paid back the 2.4 million zeitcoins from the coins that were supposedly being collected to reimburse those effected. I have tried time and time again to contact development through email and on here and never get a response.

and you shouldn't be if you keep acting this stupid.

there is a fund setup to help those affected, i have donated to that fund
once cryptorush releases data on who was affected, those funds will be distributed fairly to help those affected
if they dont, i expect the dev will refund the donations or find a better purpose for them.

WOW. I thought this community was suppose to be friendly and helpful? What is going on lately with zeitcoin? I am a victim to losing my zeitcoin due to some glitch and this is the response I get? I have proof of the coins I have lost, so what is the dev waiting for? I have been VERY patient but there is a point where you have to realize the reality is you are probably getting burned. If that is the case ( I am getting burned) I am going to warn people here so they don't get burned too. It's the right thing to do, and you don't gotta be all rude about it.

Its frustrating to see people like you come on here without doing a single bit of due diligence about what has happened, and then expect us to just be customer service reps for you. If you bother at any time to use the search function or to read through the thread or to click on the OPs name an look through his posts, you would have every answer to every one of your questions.

None of us nor the Dev owe anybody any money or any more time explaining the situation. Cryptorush fucked up their wallet and allowed transactions to be reversed, but only on the zeitcoin side. Thats it, end of story. If can complain to CR about it but they aren't going to give it back to you nor have any interest to do so.

Until CR gives a list of everyone whos zeitcoin has been lost, there is NOTHING The dev, The community, even myself can do for you or anyone else who lost zeit on CR.

So again, call us an unfriendly community if you like, ignorance is bliss as they say.

It's frustrating to see member of the community who had their coins stolen due to some glitch come and ask for the coins that were supposedly being collected to help us? Un-fucking-believable. According to the official PR response from zeitcoin the proof they need is a picture of my balance, not for cryptorush to send them any data. I talked to cryptorush and they said there is and never has been any talks about them sending over data about peoples wallet balances so that is a LIE. So why are you going around making up bullshit? And why are you pointing your finger of the zeitcoin community (the victims) as if they did something wrong? I have no more patience. If I am going to get scammed out of my zeitcoin, I will let everyone know what's going on here so it doesn't happen to them too.

Wow really bro? Go back to your hole and keep trading on CR. Maybe they will take your BTC next time, almost happened a few days ago. Who do you really trust? the assholes who lost your money and refuse to own up to it? What bullshit? A picture of your balance IS FUCKING DATA.

Take the chip off your shoulder. And when did i insult this community? I said they dont own you anything! Did you even read my post? clearly not, again, ignorance is bliss and you have discovered that on your own.
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1. The Zeitcoin Developers updated their github source, and we updated our daemon in response as we do with all coins.

And this is the big problem right here. You never update a coin before you know what's going on. An update like this could have caused them to be on a different fork entirely. On top of that, the fact transactions went to wrong wallets, doesn't sound like a complete issue with the daemon itself (I've looked at the code, that commit, which is gone now to make sure others didn't download it I presume, was just a transaction fee change. Nothing more.). The screw up was CryptoRush, not the Zeitcoin team. It's pretty easy to see that. CryptoRush just doesn't want to have to pay up for losses they caused.
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I find it interesting that once people started asking questions in the previous thread, you locked it and started a self moderating one. That indicates a level of insecurity, immaturity and paranoia that I find alarming
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Mega dump going down on Mintpal @ 2 sat....
member
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Have a ZEIT, have a kitkat.
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there WAS a commit put on the github

(hey the post i was quoting is gone, i think?)

Yeahh ok .. a commit. Do you develop software?
I mean committing is like hitting enter while typing text.
I tried to compile the git-code several times. 3 out of 4 it didnt even compile.
If i were a developer in charge of several thousand $ worth of transactions i would NEVER rely on "there is a commit". Wink

There is a saying "commit and run is a crime" which means you should not "commit untested code before taking hollidays".
However why does that saying exist in the first place? Cheesy
You see there is a reason to be cautious with what an existing commit means.

Another good example is the "brown paper bag release" http://lwn.net/1999/0204/kernel.php3
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
I am a Supporter of . . . . TZM & TVP
I have over 200+ emails of people contacting us saying that we owe them their ZEIT

Perhaps our first project could be to write some software that's able to tally twitter, FB, email and forum posts to automate payouts, confirm lost coins, respond to relevant parties etc...

Think how many man hours that would save in the world every week. It'll change the world Cheesy

Where's that C++ anonymous guy that lurkes this thread?
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
Official Zeitcoin community ambassador
Just a hint. The amount of ZEIT lost in CR is most likely more than what any developer has or what was ever premined. So i would NOT call for the devs all the time. You wouldnt ask the federal reserve for help if you got robbed either. They at least could make up the money for you. With crypto this is not possible.

If anything you should go for the exchange. Get some more people that lost money. Gather all your transactions and proof you have. And then try to use a public voice like the coindesk to put pressure on that lazy exchange. Thats what i would aim for. Emails are easily ignored. I feel sorry and its some real bad publicity for the coin. But in any case. For now you probably should think of most of the coins as gone for good. Probably there will be some refund from the collective pool that was initiated by ZEITCOIN (a few pages back).

The developers and this community are a good start but nobody here offers any ZEITCOIN insurance.



My coins gone for good = me coming here everyday 10x a day and letting everyone know what happened. (trust me I got the time)

At least get your facts straight before threatening to come on here 10 times a day and "let everyone know what happened." That's a real quick way to get blacklisted here. It's a very easy thing for everyone to just click the ignore button and be done with you. I still don't understand why you are buying CR's bullshit stories and why you are coming on here demanding action from the devs. You need to be spamming the hell out of CR, not us. Like I said before, it's not our fault you lost your coins. The relief fund did NOT have to be set up at all in the first place. The devs did that of their own free will, and the members of this community donated to it out of their own generosity. I repeat... NO ONE HAD TO DO THAT AT ALL! So don't come in here posting BS from cyrptorush. They are obviously in self-preservation mode because they know they screwed up and caused this mess. And since they have a lot to lose by admitting fault, they immediately blame the devs instead. Get your facts straight and don't make pale threats here. You aren't making any allies by doing what you are doing.

I think i agree with you but ...
 Cry
Its hard to read.
Please use linefeed (aka Enter) a bit more often! Cheesy Pleaase?



I refuse to use linefeed! That was all one paragraph.  Cool
member
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Have a ZEIT, have a kitkat.
Also, we're sorry but we had to delete some previous posts because hearsay will not be tolerated.

Regarding the early days of Zeitcoin, allow me to ensure that the team has evolved substantially since day one. Previous developers have been fired and the team has re-grouped to make this movement a long term success. Some serious reputations were tarnished by the issue at CryptoRush so it only makes sense that they would direct all of the blame towards Zeitcoin. Please be patient and let us sort through the evidence before starting the reimbursements.

The block explorer is almost finished and will be available soon. Once this is completed, we will move forward by getting listed on CoinMarketCap and then CoinWarz if everything goes according to plan. To be honest, ZEITCOIN has been vastly affected by countless events that were largely out of our control since day one, so once these are resolved, the promotional plan will be rolled-out and will take us to the next level with the help of this great community.

Again we thank everyone for their patience. This community is 100x larger than the team behind it so please understand that things take time.

Boy YOU had me worried there for a moment! Cheesy Was about to text you on twitter about the deletions.
Sorry to hear about your people at home. Hope its nothing to bad. All the best wishes.

Well i get it. I was just trying to get to it while showing the statements are unbelievable.
I would also erase such claims from my forum if i knew better.

full member
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Just a hint. The amount of ZEIT lost in CR is most likely more than what any developer has or what was ever premined.

Actually, the pre-mine probably would have covered it. The pre mine (900m ZEIT) would have been around 7% of the coins in circulation at the time (very rough as I cba to work out exactly through the halving's, average block reward etc..) and if this estimate is about right from AFTER the CR fiasco stating 17-19% of all coins were on the exchanges and assuming a maximum of half the coins ended up stuck/mispaid, then the pre-mine would cover it.

Of course, that's ignoring the number of coins that had been given out and such by then and certainly ignores the number of coins still promised to folks, but that's not what was said Smiley

MASSIVE DEFLATION AS THE PREVIOUS TWO POSTS MADE THIS SECTION COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT IMO



Anyway, I now have an Antonopoulos video to watch which I'm looking forward to as all I've read about him so far has been F***n awesome, especially his shot across the bows of bitcoin business (like CR) who don't check the code they implement and just assume the devs have tested it and that it's 100% safe, stable and compatible with everything Smiley

May the stoning's comense Smiley


See, every time I compose message about the devs, ZEITCOIN shows up. Who needs drugs for paranoia when this keeps happening Smiley
hero member
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Also, we're sorry but we had to delete some previous posts because hearsay will not be tolerated.

Regarding the early days of Zeitcoin, allow me to ensure that the team has evolved substantially since day one. Previous developers have been fired and the team has re-grouped to make this movement a long term success. Some serious reputations were tarnished by the issue at CryptoRush so it only makes sense that they would direct all of the blame towards Zeitcoin. Please be patient and let us sort through the evidence before starting the reimbursements.

The block explorer is almost finished and will be available soon. Once this is completed, we will move forward by getting listed on CoinMarketCap and then CoinWarz if everything goes according to plan. To be honest, ZEITCOIN has been vastly affected by countless events that were largely out of our control since day one, so once these are resolved, the promotional plan will be rolled-out and will take us to the next level with the help of this great community.

Again we thank everyone for their patience. This community is 100x larger than the team behind it so please understand that things take time.
hero member
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Hey everyone,

Sorry just catching up on what I have missed. I was away for the weekend visiting a sick family member. I am back now. It seems this Cryptorush is being blown way out of proportion. I was trying to stay professional about it but here it is. They screwed up, not us. We are willing to help give people back some of their losses because we know Cryptorush won't. We did not do this it was completely Cryptorush and anything they say differently is ridiculous.

I have over 200+ emails of people contacting us saying that we owe them their ZEIT unfortunately a) we don't even have enough to pay you all back b) we were hoping that after seeing what we were going to do with people who lost where it wasn't our fault, Cryptorush would own up to it and start paying back their members who used their exchange.

We have no affiliation with them and their allegations of us creating this problem to dump the coin is ludicrous how would that be beneficial for us in any way? It makes no sense they are trying everything they can to not pay their own users back. I feel this is a clear indication of who is at fault overall.

I will talk it over with the team to see what we can do however everyone should know our donation fund is no where near the amount people have lost and if I was you, you all should get together and go after the real people who you lost your ZEIT from.

I am fed up with trying to help and then having the blame put on us. We do not run the exchange nor do we have anything to do with how they run their exchange. WE DID NOT LOSE YOUR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will go through the emails we have to see what we can do here however we did the donation fund as a help we were not assuming responsibility to pay everyone back as this was not our screw up!!!!!!!!!



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bigc1984.....you do know your attitude is pissing off the very people who you may or may not get some zeit back from! its not zeit devs issue that you lost your coins, its not this communities issue that you lost your coins its yours for keeping them on a exchange and the exchange for fucking up! now I promise you this, if you keep going the way you going....when the dev team finally has what they need and we have something set up so that we can HELP those who lost out not because we have to but because we as a community choose to....ill be dammed if you get a single zeit from me or anyone else because quite frankly you deserve shit all right now the way you carrying on!
you are not entitled to anything my friend, you are in a high risk game and you lost! just as many other people have, welcome to the crypto world! nothing is a given and no body owes you anything so I suggest you pipe down until a plan is made and we as a community are satisfied with what we see hear and read.
member
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Have a ZEIT, have a kitkat.
Just a hint. The amount of ZEIT lost in CR is most likely more than what any developer has or what was ever premined. So i would NOT call for the devs all the time. You wouldnt ask the federal reserve for help if you got robbed either. They at least could make up the money for you. With crypto this is not possible.

If anything you should go for the exchange. Get some more people that lost money. Gather all your transactions and proof you have. And then try to use a public voice like the coindesk to put pressure on that lazy exchange. Thats what i would aim for. Emails are easily ignored. I feel sorry and its some real bad publicity for the coin. But in any case. For now you probably should think of most of the coins as gone for good. Probably there will be some refund from the collective pool that was initiated by ZEITCOIN (a few pages back).

The developers and this community are a good start but nobody here offers any ZEITCOIN insurance.



My coins gone for good = me coming here everyday 10x a day and letting everyone know what happened. (trust me I got the time)

At least get your facts straight before threatening to come on here 10 times a day and "let everyone know what happened." That's a real quick way to get blacklisted here. It's a very easy thing for everyone to just click the ignore button and be done with you. I still don't understand why you are buying CR's bullshit stories and why you are coming on here demanding action from the devs. You need to be spamming the hell out of CR, not us. Like I said before, it's not our fault you lost your coins. The relief fund did NOT have to be set up at all in the first place. The devs did that of their own free will, and the members of this community donated to it out of their own generosity. I repeat... NO ONE HAD TO DO THAT AT ALL! So don't come in here posting BS from cyrptorush. They are obviously in self-preservation mode because they know they screwed up and caused this mess. And since they have a lot to lose by admitting fault, they immediately blame the devs instead. Get your facts straight and don't make pale threats here. You aren't making any allies by doing what you are doing.

I think i agree with you but ...
 Cry
Its hard to read.
Please use linefeed (aka Enter) a bit more often! Cheesy Pleaase?

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