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legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
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Can anyone explain me how I managed to get negative profit from placing an order on nicehash with a price of 1.06 BTC/PH/day to zpool showing average profit estimate 0.00148 mBTC/GHs/day ? (sha256, no errors, no rejects)

You lose on nicehash fee.

You lose on payment tx to NH.

24hr estimates are for the previous 24hr with x hashrate;  not 24 with X plus your rental.


Many ways to loose on a rental.  If t was as easy as you think, machines would be rented 247 by the same people all tihe time earning profit.



I also agree: argon2 is crap.  I don't mine it anymore.

its better to be seller in NH than a buyer, renting.

legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1166
My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?
Can anyone explain me how I managed to get negative profit from placing an order on nicehash with a price of 1.06 BTC/PH/day to zpool showing average profit estimate 0.00148 mBTC/GHs/day ? (sha256, no errors, no rejects)

You lose on nicehash fee.

You lose on payment tx to NH.

24hr estimates are for the previous 24hr with x hashrate;  not 24 with X plus your rental.


Many ways to loose on a rental.  If t was as easy as you think, machines would be rented 247 by the same people all tihe time earning profit.



I also agree: argon2 is crap.  I don't mine it anymore.
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
Can anyone explain me how I managed to get negative profit from placing an order on nicehash with a price of 1.06 BTC/PH/day to zpool showing average profit estimate 0.00148 mBTC/GHs/day ? (sha256, no errors, no rejects)

nh charges a 3% fee.. plus zpool is 2%.
so you have to take the 5% off your profit to come out ahead.

also NH varies alot on their price.. i know yesterday they went up to 1.8 for a few .



I know about fees, and the NH price was steady for most of the order's execution. and 1.48 is only avg for last 24h but the coins mined showed estimate profits in the range 1.20-1.50 which is consistent with the 1.48 avg. but 1.48 - 5% = 1.406 is far from 1.06

have you let the blue line drop all the way down?
some coins pend for awhile, even after a payout.



well, no, I was looking at shares %, meanwhile I placed another order (spent only 0,0013) and looked at more details, the speed showed at zpool was constantly lower than the speed measured at NH (example NH: 42THs - ZP: 37THs). anyway, I will wait more. thank you.
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1006
Can anyone explain me how I managed to get negative profit from placing an order on nicehash with a price of 1.06 BTC/PH/day to zpool showing average profit estimate 0.00148 mBTC/GHs/day ? (sha256, no errors, no rejects)

nh charges a 3% fee.. plus zpool is 2%.
so you have to take the 5% off your profit to come out ahead.

also NH varies alot on their price.. i know yesterday they went up to 1.8 for a few .



I know about fees, and the NH price was steady for most of the order's execution. and 1.48 is only avg for last 24h but the coins mined showed estimate profits in the range 1.20-1.50 which is consistent with the 1.48 avg. but 1.48 - 5% = 1.406 is far from 1.06

have you let the blue line drop all the way down?
some coins pend for awhile, even after a payout.

newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
Can anyone explain me how I managed to get negative profit from placing an order on nicehash with a price of 1.06 BTC/PH/day to zpool showing average profit estimate 0.00148 mBTC/GHs/day ? (sha256, no errors, no rejects)

nh charges a 3% fee.. plus zpool is 2%.
so you have to take the 5% off your profit to come out ahead.

also NH varies alot on their price.. i know yesterday they went up to 1.8 for a few .



I know about fees, and the NH price was steady for most of the order's execution. and 1.48 is only avg for last 24h but the coins mined showed estimate profits in the range 1.20-1.50 which is consistent with the 1.48 avg. but 1.48 - 5% = 1.406 is far from 1.06
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1006
Can anyone explain me how I managed to get negative profit from placing an order on nicehash with a price of 1.06 BTC/PH/day to zpool showing average profit estimate 0.00148 mBTC/GHs/day ? (sha256, no errors, no rejects)

nh charges a 3% fee.. plus zpool is 2%.
so you have to take the 5% off your profit to come out ahead.

also NH varies alot on their price.. i know yesterday they went up to 1.8 for a few .

newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
Can anyone explain me how I managed to get negative profit from placing an order on nicehash with a price of 1.06 BTC/PH/day to zpool showing average profit estimate 0.00148 mBTC/GHs/day ? (sha256, no errors, no rejects)
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
I guess if you didn't get the jist of what I was saying the short version is. If you don't want to get PAID more than other pools, you may want to look into switching.

just switch, answer to the problem doesnt matter, just switch, i am seeing that it doesnt matter about some miners, just switch, cause you have plenty of miners on the pool that will fill your pockets so it doesnt matter, starting to sound a lot like corporate or walmart or something lol, if you dont like it switch, to big to give a real reason. i will switch now problem, without trust there is nothing guys i hope it works out for you, happy mining

no, just tired of the broken fuckin record. The code is there, I didn't build it, nor am I a developer and nor did the current dev build it. If you know where the issue is, submit the code fix to the open source repo and I'll happily pull and merge it into zpool.

I have nicehash miners running now almost since the pool started and the continue to earn so it's not really my problem to cradle everyones testicles to make them feel good. The pool is profitable so if you can't figure out how to do it properly why am I responsible? Whats the secret? Hire a developer to build you your own intelligent bot.

you know all anyone wanted was a real reason, my profitability calculations always come out correct and payouts are always made when they should be, and i definitely dont need you to cradle mt testicles by any means, its what happens when you stop mining, and you have your total earned, for example if the total BTC earned is 0.00432 and keep in mind you have stopped mining, over a period of time while the coins you have mined are confirming being exchanged and being cleared the total earned will decrease and for example you will end up with  around 0.00382 for example, instead of getting pissed off and talking crap to people just explain it none of the other stuff matters total earned should be total earned right? it used to be and if that has changed just explain why and if you dont know just say i have no idea or act your dev so you can give a simple explanation no need for an attitude, its not that hard just a real honest explanation, instead if you have a problem switch, you know there are miners out there that really like this pool including me, so no need to act like that remember no matter how much btc you make or payout the pool is as only good as the miners who mine it, no miners no pool, so thanks for your thought

Total Earned includes the Total Unpaid which includes the best guess for the coins in the exchange and the ones going to the exchange. One would expect them to fluctuate but does your Balance decrease as well?

Edit: I agree about the attitude though. I too have started to look for alternatives.
member
Activity: 101
Merit: 10
I guess if you didn't get the jist of what I was saying the short version is. If you don't want to get PAID more than other pools, you may want to look into switching.

just switch, answer to the problem doesnt matter, just switch, i am seeing that it doesnt matter about some miners, just switch, cause you have plenty of miners on the pool that will fill your pockets so it doesnt matter, starting to sound a lot like corporate or walmart or something lol, if you dont like it switch, to big to give a real reason. i will switch now problem, without trust there is nothing guys i hope it works out for you, happy mining

no, just tired of the broken fuckin record. The code is there, I didn't build it, nor am I a developer and nor did the current dev build it. If you know where the issue is, submit the code fix to the open source repo and I'll happily pull and merge it into zpool.

I have nicehash miners running now almost since the pool started and the continue to earn so it's not really my problem to cradle everyones testicles to make them feel good. The pool is profitable so if you can't figure out how to do it properly why am I responsible? Whats the secret? Hire a developer to build you your own intelligent bot.

you know all anyone wanted was a real reason, my profitability calculations always come out correct and payouts are always made when they should be, and i definitely dont need you to cradle mt testicles by any means, its what happens when you stop mining, and you have your total earned, for example if the total BTC earned is 0.00432 and keep in mind you have stopped mining, over a period of time while the coins you have mined are confirming being exchanged and being cleared the total earned will decrease and for example you will end up with  around 0.00382 for example, instead of getting pissed off and talking crap to people just explain it none of the other stuff matters total earned should be total earned right? it used to be and if that has changed just explain why and if you dont know just say i have no idea or act your dev so you can give a simple explanation no need for an attitude, its not that hard just a real honest explanation, instead if you have a problem switch, you know there are miners out there that really like this pool including me, so no need to act like that remember no matter how much btc you make or payout the pool is as only good as the miners who mine it, no miners no pool, so thanks for your thought
legendary
Activity: 3486
Merit: 1126
got disconnected several times in the last hour or so, everything ok with the sha256 pool?

Last stop causeConnection failed: Connection refused

should be ok now. looks like it was someone misusing the diff settings.

still something going on with this port so running debug now. Hopefully will turn something up.

The servers are due for a reboot/patch so I may do that later tonight.
legendary
Activity: 3486
Merit: 1126
Crackfoo, are you going to drop payment support of BTCD next month when the Komodo ICO starts?

why would I do that?

On a similar note, I've been tossing around the idea of dropping the PoS coins altogether. I haven't been able to find someone willing to help me automate it.

I would hope not; I like being paid in the POS coins. Although I can kind of understand your position; especially since whenever you tell us you are going on vacation the POS coins spend most of those periods short of funds.

yup :\
sr. member
Activity: 358
Merit: 250
Crackfoo, are you going to drop payment support of BTCD next month when the Komodo ICO starts?

why would I do that?

On a similar note, I've been tossing around the idea of dropping the PoS coins altogether. I haven't been able to find someone willing to help me automate it.

I would hope not; I like being paid in the POS coins. Although I can kind of understand your position; especially since whenever you tell us you are going on vacation the POS coins spend most of those periods short of funds.
legendary
Activity: 3486
Merit: 1126
Crackfoo, are you going to drop payment support of BTCD next month when the Komodo ICO starts?

why would I do that?

BTCD devs have all said they do not have the time to support BTCD anymore since it can not do what they needed it to do for Supernet. That is why they created Komodo, to be BTCD's replacement. Though it is true none have outright said they are not going to continue development; although James did say he would pass BTCD's code on to a new dev team and get them up to speed with the coin if the community could find one...

ohh... bleh thats just lovely. I guess I will.
sr. member
Activity: 358
Merit: 250
Crackfoo, are you going to drop payment support of BTCD next month when the Komodo ICO starts?

why would I do that?

BTCD devs have all said they do not have the time to support BTCD anymore since it can not do what they needed it to do for Supernet. That is why they created Komodo, to be BTCD's replacement. Though it is true none have outright said they are not going to continue development; although James did say he would pass BTCD's code on to a new dev team and get them up to speed with the coin if the community could find one...
legendary
Activity: 3486
Merit: 1126
Crackfoo, are you going to drop payment support of BTCD next month when the Komodo ICO starts?

why would I do that?

On a similar note, I've been tossing around the idea of dropping the PoS coins altogether. I haven't been able to find someone willing to help me automate it.
legendary
Activity: 3486
Merit: 1126
Crackfoo, are you going to drop payment support of BTCD next month when the Komodo ICO starts?

why would I do that?
sr. member
Activity: 358
Merit: 250
Crackfoo, are you going to drop payment support of BTCD next month when the Komodo ICO starts?
legendary
Activity: 3486
Merit: 1126
got disconnected several times in the last hour or so, everything ok with the sha256 pool?

Last stop causeConnection failed: Connection refused

should be ok now. looks like it was someone misusing the diff settings.
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1006
got disconnected several times in the last hour or so, everything ok with the sha256 pool?

Last stop causeConnection failed: Connection refused
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1114

part of the pool calculates on 15 min intervals, some on hourly, some on daily.  the use of these globals/functions is completely not understood by me when I looked at the code.  seemed they were mixing and matching... but couldn't make heads or tails personally.  I understand code I wrote when its that complex;  because I'm the one who created the pointers loops and references... I can see the object of the thing.   I am not going to try and do that.... I might as well write the pool code myself... not gonna happen sadly.

Can you point me to that code? I haven't found it. I found the code that queries the exchanges, but I don't know how it's converted
to a btc value for a share of an altcoin block.
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