Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 2. (Read 57640 times)

Both NATO and Russia have more than enough nukes, about 12k together. In the word of thermonuclear fusion weapons, hypersonic missiles, and fractional orbital bombardment systems the idea that 1k more nukes would change something is one of the dumbest things I've heard in a while. If my country looses so should the whole world mindset?

With Trump is leading in polls 49% and Biden slipping to 43% and Biden's 13th-Quarter Approval Average Lowest Historically...None of the other nine presidents elected to their first term since Dwight Eisenhower had a lower 13th-quarter average than Biden. denying and not planning for such outcome is just idiotic at this point. Regardless how you feel about Trump, any politician that doesn't plan for Trumps presidency to later claim any such outcome as totally unexpected should be laughed out of politics right now. It's like some politicians acting that they just found out that Russia has 3x population to Ukraine.

Looks like Forbes also puts GLSDB range at about 150km

You can not believe Deputy US Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment all you want. But if you want to prove him wrong and claim that GLSDB work for Ukraine you got to cite something outside of your opinion and few pictures.

Wow what a great strategy in just 6 bullet point! But are you saying this is totally new, like really no one thought to implement such basic strategy in the previous 2+ years of fighting? Do you think that's because they're just totally incompetent or it was by design?

Seems that Belarus is starting to wake up its support of Russia, if the Ukraine war goes to WW3. Belarus, if you remember, is the Country just North of Ukraine... the country that let Russia use its land in the first attack against Kiev at the start of the war. More countries should recognize the disastrous affect the West is having on Ukraine, and jump out of Nato and join Russia... if they want their freedom to survive as a country, that is.


Putin Ally Makes Surprise Nuclear Move

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-ally-makes-surprise-nuclear-move/ar-BB1m1XqK?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=4603d79207d344ec9905d0c4299882b4&ei=15
The Institute for the Study of War (ISW), a Washington D.C.-based think tank, in its latest analysis of the conflict in Ukraine on Tuesday weighed in on Lukashenko's move to conduct sudden checks on the readiness of his military to deploy tactical nuclear weapons.

Lukashenko is a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin. Belarus, a former Soviet Union republic, has maintained strong relations with Russia since the Russian leader launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.

In January, the Belarusian president announced that Russian nuclear weapons, controlled by Moscow, had arrived in Belarus. Lukashenko said last month that "several dozen" tactical nuclear weapons from Russia had been deployed in his country. The drills will involve those weapons.
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Oh, there seems to have been an assassination attempt against Zelensky. Interesting now that we speak of terrorism.

As far as I know, there is war between two nations. You can have war crimes, e.g. Russia bombing systematically schools and hospitals, kidnapping children, etc... But an attack on a militarily valuable asset (e.g. the fuel required for your war) is not terrorism. As usual BA here is just inventing his own narrative, as detached from reality as all the rest.

No Ukraine has a strategy and has been given the means to develop it. It is a nasty, corroding and something that Ruzzia can do little about. dumBAss is getting very nervous - perhaps also because his hero Trump is being judged and the "adult film actress" he had sex with said "he was not wearing a condom" when they copulated.


I am absolutely ok if Ruzzia decides to lose honourably, but given the war crimes committed since the very beginning of the war that is no longer possible.

BTW you should learn a bit of history. Well... you should learn a lot of things... or perhaps something, anything... The US is independent because the French fleet supported it - try not to forget it. I am sure there was a member of your family in France complaining of having to spend the money of those US terrorists and saying that the Brits were winning.

https://youtu.be/CznwLGb2xfw

You don't seem to understand. The two major points in this are:
1. Ukraine is ONLY using terrorism because they don't have - can't get - anything else;
2. Russia isn't even worried. They could do the same terrorism, but it isn't something they need right now.

If the British had used terrorist attacks in pre-US America like the colonists did, they would have easily won. The British lost through being honorable.

Only problem with guerilla is that you can be "freedom fighter" and "madman terrorist", depending on situation.

You dismiss guerrilla tactics as some sort of failure and "terrorism", when it's actually one of smartest and effective defense tactics that Russia has been notoriously vulnerable against in the past. But it doesn't surprise me as anything you talk about is usually made up fear mongering nonsense.

Guerrilla tactics has been the reason American colonists got their independence against one of the best armies at the time. It's the reason Russia failed in Afganistan and Chechnya and why they couldn't invade Finland. I could keep giving more examples as you clearly haven't paid attention during history class, but i don't think you would gain anything from facts, as they aren't your thing.

And good luck with your brics. When delusional dictators try to team up it's probably going to end well, right? At least you have found your team. I find dictator bootlicking weird but you go grl!

Strength for strength, Russia is easily winning the war against Ukraine. The problem exists in the way they must win right now. Here's what I mean.

Ukraine has devolved to having to use terrorist - similar to guerilla warfare - attacks against Russia. They don't have enough people left to fight... even with the few Nato troops that are helping them, and the US military 'trainers' who are trying to train the few Ukrainian troops that are left to use US war machines. Ukraine is barely holding onto the pieces of land they have left.

Russia is sitting in a position of strength, but getting stronger rather than using the strength it already has. Russia isn't overrunning Ukraine because she doesn't want to make an excuse for the US and Nato to send in more troops. Rather, Russia is simply holding onto what she has gained in Ukraine - and advancing only a little - because she is wearing the US and Nato down.

How is Russia wearing the US and Nato down? She is working with China to build BRICS up into the new world money system. She is advancing into Africa; African nations are kicking the US and Nato out while inviting Russia in. In  addition, Russia is advancing her military strength and technology, both in the kinds of war machines she has, and in her nuke capabilities... with the space platform.

Nobody can really say what the final outcome will be... yet. If Trump gets into office, he will reverse all kinds of things the Deep State is doing to strengthen Ukraine and keep the war going. He'll reverse things the same way Biden did in his first two weeks, by making all kinds of Executive Orders that take things back to what he was doing at the end of his first term.

The big point is that this isn't really a war between Russia and Ukraine. Rather, it is a war between Russia and the West, and always has been, and even Ukrainians don't want it and are trying to find a way out.


Zelensky Assassination Plot Foiled, Two Colonels Arrested, Ukraine Intelligence Says

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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/zelensky-assassination-plot-foiled-two-colonels-arrested-ukraine-intelligence-says
The Ukrainian government and intelligence services are claiming that a major assassination plot targeting President Volodymyr Zelensky has been thwarted. The plot also allegedly aimed to take out other top military and political figures.

Ukraine's state security service (SBU) unveiled the plot Tuesday in announcing the detention of two colonels in the State Guard of Ukraine said to be involved in the criminal conspiracy. The State Guard is responsible for protecting top political as well as military figures, somewhat akin to the Secret Service in the US.
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+300 pages, +2 years of war, tons of bullshit in the internet. So who is winning? Or both sides are still wasting ammo, money and people without any progress?

You make my answers very easy dumBAss thank you. Something you have to understand is that if you make a claim it is on you to provide some logic or support to it, not on others to debunk every little part of your parallel universe. Hint: "freedomphoenix" is unlikely to be taken seriously by most people here. Or anywere. Is more like... the joke of internet or the humour pages of a porn magazine.

Let me put an example for you: It seems that ATACAMS "did not work" in the fuel stores in Luhansk today. (See, that is just me sayin)

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/likely-ukrainian-strike-oil-depot-221900321.html

See? That is me citing a source that is reasonably credible and modest in their assumptions.


And now I quote a declaration by a Ruzzian source that is easy for anyone to verify, as it is an official statement.

Moving on now to some pictures that could potentially be verified:





Plus a video, just for you dumBAss:

https://t.me/newsgrpua/99910?single

See dumBAss, this is how people may have a good degree of confidence in what you say has happened.

Meanwhile, Ukraine is recruiting new volunteers

https://t.me/vicktop55/24363

You shmart. You didn't have to type so much. You only had one sentence that is not true. Lol.

I am not sure what do they mean. UK weapons have already been used in Crimea and according to Putin, Crimea is Ruzzia 

They already killed a guy with Novichok even before the war in UK. Hybrid warfare cuts both ways though. Ruzzia will not claim the attack... an the UK will deny any use of their weapons in Ruzzia I guess.

The interesting thing is that they will need to make sure that it is actually an UK asset, because half of UK is property of the plutocrats an most likely Putin himself. Well, would it not be super to give the UK a excuse to re-posses part of Putin´s assets as war reparations?

Hey, look, another Ukrainian glide bomb "not working"

https://t.me/officer_alex33/2745


There is not a single sentence in there that is remotely true.

Ukraine's new weapon is all that it has left. It's called, terrorist attacks. These terrorist attacks are similar to guerilla warfare. Why is Ukraine doing this? They don't have anything or people left to do anything else.

If Russia started doing this in Ukraine, It would be all over by now. But of course, the Russian attacks on Ukraine infrastructure - power plants, ammunition dumps, military factories - are far beyond anything that Ukraine is doing to Russia.

Even with the few military people sent from the US and Nato, if they don't join in the fighting themselves, but are there for training purposes, there aren't any Ukrainian troops left to train. They are all gone... to the tune of almost 600,000 Ukrainian troops dead. Nato, especially, is scared to send any of their troops in with figures like that.

Read on the news that Russia is preparing to strike UK assets, have they made it close to Gibraltar or Guernsey or are they taking the other route, crossing the Volga, Urals, the Atlantic and then a surprise attack through Greenland and Ireland right on St Patrick?
That would be really nasty, I would need to prepare and do stuff, I have a netflix subscription I'm going to cancel if they will only show russian movies!



 

Well, you know, never to late to grow balls. Europe is slow, but is not immobile and the risk of Trump as president - pretty much Putin´s wet dreams made true - is certainly creating the conditions for a nuclear able Germany. It think that Europe could create a programme for, let´s say 1000 strategic warheads, so next time it can talk to Ruzzia with some "backup". I am not sure that Trump understands that if Europe feels undefended the non-proliferation is over.

I am not sure where did they get the idea that a glide bomb can be thrown 150 km behind the front... or maybe I am not reading correctly. It simply does not make sense, ATACAMS have a much larger range... bombs are not really that sensitive to EW... I am not sure where they got all that.

Again, you say you are not an expert, but at the same time you are giving credibility to all the opinions that match your narrative, so I am going to make the question again - the one you do not want to answer: To what degree do you think ATACAMS will "not work" and to what degree do you think glide bombs "do not work".

I think that Ukraine has new weapons and has a proper strategy to use them:
1. Make the war costly for Ruzzia. Attrition in vehicles, people and oil&gas facilities.
2. Start degrading Ruzzian airforce to an unacceptable level.
3.  degrade sufficiently Ruzzian air defence.
4. Keep on destroying the Black Sea fleet to the point that is useless.
5. Prepare for an offensive in 2025 - 26.
6. Obviously, avoid loosing key holds.

Meh comparing default risks of Germany vs Russia is not interesting, now Russian war bonds vs. Ukrainian war bonds on a free market would be for a far more interesting conversation.

Ukraine was a perfectly viable country in economic terms in 2013, and there was peace and overall prosperity in EU. You know this, and EU knows this, but US decided to change that status quo with some sweet cookies that some naive people fell for and fuck the EU, EU didn't have the balls to stop it so now we're all paying the consequences.


Once again i'm not a military expert to comment on the specifics, i just collect credible reports from multiple sources and report it here. If you have credible reports that claim otherwise, that Ground Launched Small Diameter Bombs work amazingly for Ukraine do share them, otherwise unless you reveal yourself as some war general or top military strategist, i'll believe media reports over your opinion. Honestly i don't see what you're so held up on, are you just incapable of admitting that some weapons might not work for Ukraine, is that it? There are no reports that ATACMS don't work (there are other issues with them mainly cost and availability but effectiveness doesn't seem to be one of them), yet there are plenty that GLSDB and Excalibur are not effective. Either provide a more credible source claiming otherwise or stop spreading misinformation with your random opinions and pictures/videos.

Even from some UA source defence-ua.com  

Obviously you would not lend to Ruzzia at the same rates as Germany nor you would expect re-structuring from Germany .Again, you are not going to enlighten anyone here about credit ratings.

Ukraine is a perfectly viable independent country in economic terms if the war is ended correctly. You know this, Putin knows this and you both want to avoid this outcome at all costs by asking for a surrender while calling it "peace".

Try to be honest for once will you? You were clearly giving credibility to options about the Ukrainian glide bombs and the western weaponry in terms of "not working". Would you like then to retract and say they are not working 100%?

Particularly, what degree of "not working" and the S300 S400 being enough to deal with the western supplied missiles do you claim? And what degree of "not working" do you attribute to the French glide bombs smashing the east bank of the dnipro?

And, compared to better schools, roads and health insurance, for example, that improves life of average American or European how?

Learn what citations are, and do not attribute my citations to me.  

Oh i see, when you read my citations claiming some system doesn't work you assume a 100% failure and thus feel the need to provide evidence of at least one or two that did work to prove them wrong? No that's not how warfare works at all, there's this whole the sword and the shield concept, where efficiency of of some new weapon is limited in time before countermeasures are developed.


So for example excalibers work in Ukraine, so no need to find videos, but only in 6%. If you feel GMLRS work in Ukraine sure go argue with Pentagon and tell Ukraine to request more of GMLRS instead of some other weapons for the next weapon delivery batch.

High yield? You mean junk-bonds?

The problem is that no one believes that Ukraine can survive for longer than it would take for Russia to "self-demilitarise" as you claim (it's obvious now that China won't allow it and for many other reasons). Thus the outcome is clear, so the options really are either make peace now, or keep fighting "to the last Ukrainian" waste more lives and get worse terms just to get Russia to "self-demilitarise" a tiny bit more. You don't see a conflict of interest here between the interest of the "west" and the Ukrainian people?

In Russia, against the background of a colossal redundancy of any resources, there is a shortage of manpower. The point is not even in the losses at the front (although of course there are those too), and not in the wave of emigration after the start of the special operation (although of course there was that too), but rather in the demographic failure, which is a consequence of the acute crisis of the 1990s after the collapse of the USSR. The current unemployment rate of 2.7% is an unprecedented low in Russia.

Actually, therefore, it is not surprising that Russia offers foreigners from Africa and Latin America favorable conditions and a simplified scheme for obtaining citizenship through a contract with the Ministry of Defense. I think this program will expand.