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laughed hard 
I did not expect anything less from those two guys. In my opinion they are secretly working for the US Government to destroy Bitcoin and to replace it with a fork that would serve their masters. They say this is done to protect the network against DoSS attacks, but it can just as easily be used to block and filter whole nations from accessing the network.
It’s all about control and manipulation.
It’s all about control and manipulation.
What the actual fuck , guys does this mean that Lightweight wallets like Electrum & Multibit will be affected aswell since those will be full running nodes on their servers , does it mean we will get affected too or it's only who is using BitcoinXT client directly
Multibit doesn't run a node on a backend server like Electrum. However you can probably specify which nodes it does transactions through if you want to be sure it omits XT nodes. I think you can specify which backend servers your Electrum wallet uses, so you could check which aren't running XT nodes and instruct your wallet to only use those.
I'm not surprised there is hidden crap in the XT fork. A certain group is pushing hard to try and force it's adoption. The spam/stress tests was the beginning of it. It made people feel that blocks were full when they were just orchestrated that way.
And I wonder how far away we are from a Wiki Leaks "block", I mean "Extremely Low Priority - Oops, we lost that transaction" change?
If nothing else, this should have been talked about openly. Slipping it in there while the block size thing was going on, is just plain scary and too big to ignore.
I didn't trust Hearn when I first heard him as the NSA, I mean Google, connection was too much to ignore. But I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Now, he is going to be watched (by everyone) closely.
My bet - going to be a rough year for BTC and I have a feeling big money will be buying it up (cheap).
Its about Sharing, not Blocking
http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010388.html
I'm not surprised there is hidden crap in the XT fork. A certain group is pushing hard to try and force it's adoption. The spam/stress tests was the beginning of it. It made people feel that blocks were full when they were just orchestrated that way.
And I wonder how far away we are from a Wiki Leaks "block", I mean "Extremely Low Priority - Oops, we lost that transaction" change?
If nothing else, this should have been talked about openly. Slipping it in there while the block size thing was going on, is just plain scary and too big to ignore.
I didn't trust Hearn when I first heard him as the NSA, I mean Google, connection was too much to ignore. But I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Now, he is going to be watched (by everyone) closely.
My bet - going to be a rough year for BTC and I have a feeling big money will be buying it up (cheap).
Its about Sharing, not Blocking
Just looked at the code. What BS. It just uses a list that deprioritized a list of IPs that get dropped if you are DOS attack. And I do see a lot of IPs in the list that were DOSing me... So to say it is a blocking list... I got about 75% of that IPs in days and they are saying it took mouths to map... Real FUD... So I no longer need DROP rules in FW... That makes things batter for TOR not worst... They can now connect and only get drooped if I get DOS again... Sorry to say but I have no intention to have CPU at 100% and disk going crazy... If you are using same IPs as attacker you get blocked. I don't see other way.
It could be called same as pools and nodes doping so called SPAM in SPAM or DOS attack. There was a lot of valid ones in there... I know for at lest one since I was affected. But that was all good right? Since you agree that this is SPAM even if it is not... So please let me know how is that different... And it is temporary till better solution gets done... It is batter then block IPs all together on FW. Next one will get even batter but you need something now.
So just stop attacking XT nodes(the ones that are doing it) and this will not be issue.
EDIT: Interesting http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010388.html
You are not talking about XT code...
It could be called same as pools and nodes doping so called SPAM in SPAM or DOS attack. There was a lot of valid ones in there... I know for at lest one since I was affected. But that was all good right? Since you agree that this is SPAM even if it is not... So please let me know how is that different... And it is temporary till better solution gets done... It is batter then block IPs all together on FW. Next one will get even batter but you need something now.
So just stop attacking XT nodes(the ones that are doing it) and this will not be issue.
EDIT: Interesting http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010388.html
You are not talking about XT code...
Looks like XT is a piece of shady bullshit. What will be in the next version ? Direct reporting to NSA ?
confirmed, totally shady.
I have had my suspicions about Gavin for a long time, CIA visit (no transcript), CFR talk, the CA/TLS payment protocol privacy leak but this is damning if he wants to sign off on this shit. And the way the XT panopticoin fork is being pitched reads like a bad infomercial.
Never trust an Aussie, Gavin, you just made it onto my blacklist (and it is quite short).
hey us aussie's are OK
you mean never trust an aussie that moves to the USA n works with the NSA, CIA etc
There is an only-bigblocks-branch on Github:
https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/tree/only-bigblocks
If you have concerns about the other features but want to support bigger blocks, use this branch.
https://github.com/bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt/tree/only-bigblocks
If you have concerns about the other features but want to support bigger blocks, use this branch.
This is really fucked up. Basically a 'feature' like this is the anti-ethos to what Bitcoin was created for, just like increasing the blocksize squeezes out the users it was made to help most
Just when I thought my respect for these two couldn't get any lower..
Just when I thought my respect for these two couldn't get any lower..
I hate to be the one to tell you this, but its on the way for core too...
You have privacy issues but dont care about being vulnerable to DDos?
set -listen=0
set -disableipprio=0
Problem solved. Now, nobody will know where you are relaying from.
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+void InitIPGroups(CScheduler *scheduler) {
+ // If scheduler is NULL then we're in unit tests.
+ if (scheduler) {
+ // Don't use in regtest mode to avoid excessive and useless HTTP requests, don't use if the user disabled.
+ if (GetBoolArg("-disableipprio", false) || Params().NetworkIDString() == "regtest" || !fListen)
+ return;
+ // If we have a proxy, then we are most likely not reachable from the internet, so don't use.
+ proxyType dummy;
+ if (GetProxy(NET_IPV4, dummy) || GetProxy(NET_IPV6, dummy) || GetProxy(NET_TOR, dummy))
+ return;
+ }
+ // If scheduler is NULL then we're in unit tests.
+ if (scheduler) {
+ // Don't use in regtest mode to avoid excessive and useless HTTP requests, don't use if the user disabled.
+ if (GetBoolArg("-disableipprio", false) || Params().NetworkIDString() == "regtest" || !fListen)
+ return;
+ // If we have a proxy, then we are most likely not reachable from the internet, so don't use.
+ proxyType dummy;
+ if (GetProxy(NET_IPV4, dummy) || GetProxy(NET_IPV6, dummy) || GetProxy(NET_TOR, dummy))
+ return;
+ }
No, I personally do not care. My name and face are everywhere on Twitter and in altcoins
The potential loss of privacy, while a fairly big one, is not the main issue
This is really fucked up. Basically a 'feature' like this is the anti-ethos to what Bitcoin was created for, just like increasing the blocksize squeezes out the users it was made to help most
Just when I thought my respect for these two couldn't get any lower..
Just when I thought my respect for these two couldn't get any lower..
I hate to be the one to tell you this, but its on the way for core too...
You have privacy issues but dont care about being vulnerable to DDos?
set -listen=0
set -disableipprio=0
Problem solved. Now, nobody will know where you are relaying from.
Quote
+void InitIPGroups(CScheduler *scheduler) {
+ // If scheduler is NULL then we're in unit tests.
+ if (scheduler) {
+ // Don't use in regtest mode to avoid excessive and useless HTTP requests, don't use if the user disabled.
+ if (GetBoolArg("-disableipprio", false) || Params().NetworkIDString() == "regtest" || !fListen)
+ return;
+ // If we have a proxy, then we are most likely not reachable from the internet, so don't use.
+ proxyType dummy;
+ if (GetProxy(NET_IPV4, dummy) || GetProxy(NET_IPV6, dummy) || GetProxy(NET_TOR, dummy))
+ return;
+ }
+ // If scheduler is NULL then we're in unit tests.
+ if (scheduler) {
+ // Don't use in regtest mode to avoid excessive and useless HTTP requests, don't use if the user disabled.
+ if (GetBoolArg("-disableipprio", false) || Params().NetworkIDString() == "regtest" || !fListen)
+ return;
+ // If we have a proxy, then we are most likely not reachable from the internet, so don't use.
+ proxyType dummy;
+ if (GetProxy(NET_IPV4, dummy) || GetProxy(NET_IPV6, dummy) || GetProxy(NET_TOR, dummy))
+ return;
+ }
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Agree. This is not Bitcoin .
Disagree, hard forks are part of bitcoin.
Better call satoshi...
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Agree. This is not Bitcoin .
Disagree, hard forks are part of bitcoin.
There are more than half of a million users on my sites, and I will never use an xt. It's not a Bitcoin.
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Agree. This is not Bitcoin .
Disagree, hard forks are part of bitcoin.
You can not discuss this here. Please move to altcoin discussion.
Agree. This is not Bitcoin .
This is really fucked up. Basically a 'feature' like this is the anti-ethos to what Bitcoin was created for, just like increasing the blocksize squeezes out the users it was made to help most
Just when I thought my respect for these two couldn't get any lower..
Just when I thought my respect for these two couldn't get any lower..
XT is a nebulous interest group's attempt to gain control over the development of the largest cryptocurrency. At this point, if you understand or care in any way about Bitcoin, you simply cannot support it.
It is really a shame that Gavin has chosen such a destructive path, I wonder how high the price of his moral integrity was.
It is really a shame that Gavin has chosen such a destructive path, I wonder how high the price of his moral integrity was.
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