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Hhampuz

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Quote from: Hhampuz on September 10, 2016, 11:29:35 AM

Quote from: DECENT on September 10, 2016, 11:28:43 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: DECENT on September 10, 2016, 11:22:08 AM

Quote from: voteformeg on September 10, 2016, 10:47:54 AM

agree with all of you but better to take an other day to make sure all is ok then weeks/months with complainining and sorry's

Technical difficulties with the servers are reason for our decision to change the ICO start. We apologize for any inconvenience this might have caused to all of you. It was a hard but unnecesary decision to make in order to be 100% sure that once we launch the iCO everything will be stable and working.

If it was unnecessary as you say, then why did you do it? Lots of people are upset.

Sorry misspelling. It was necessary as we do not want this difficulties appear upon the actual ICO launch

So why did you lie and said it was about other bullshit reasons? Do you have any idea on how to approach potential investors or do you just not give a fuck?

magc16

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I got up early for this Undecided

I would suggest increasing to 60% bonus for all forum members.

jvper

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Quote from: DECENT on September 10, 2016, 11:32:15 AM

Quote from: jvper on September 10, 2016, 11:29:44 AM

Quote from: MatoB on September 10, 2016, 11:17:54 AM

Quote from: dx5 on September 10, 2016, 11:02:02 AM

Quote from: tetra on September 10, 2016, 10:54:59 AM

It could also be an insider trading thing. One large insider suddenly couldn't invest today anymore, so they wait until tomorrow for him

That's what I'm worried about.

This is not the cause. As we stated before we wan't to give everyone equal chance. Regarding the bonus it's based on last bitcoin block that will have these transactions in there and this whole block is counted in with 50% bonus. Our infrastructure will be boosted up till tomorrow so we will have stable state during the ICO.

Last block? You mean every block from the first to the last block (around 6 blocks) during that first hour, right? Let's say block nnnnn is the block at 1 PM GMT and nnnnn+6 is the block at 2 GMT. blocks nnnn+1, nnnnn+2, ... nnnnn+5 are in the first hour and should have the 50% bonus too, right?

Last block that will contain the first 10 million DCT. This means if the limit for 50% bonus will be reached in the second block for example, the whole first and second block will be counted even if the overall amount will be higher than 10 M

Ok, then, if this last block (second, in your example) has even more bitcoin transactions, more than 10 million DCT might be sold with a bonus. Got it.

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Quote from: jvper on September 10, 2016, 11:29:44 AM

Quote from: MatoB on September 10, 2016, 11:17:54 AM

Quote from: dx5 on September 10, 2016, 11:02:02 AM

Quote from: tetra on September 10, 2016, 10:54:59 AM

It could also be an insider trading thing. One large insider suddenly couldn't invest today anymore, so they wait until tomorrow for him

That's what I'm worried about.

This is not the cause. As we stated before we wan't to give everyone equal chance. Regarding the bonus it's based on last bitcoin block that will have these transactions in there and this whole block is counted in with 50% bonus. Our infrastructure will be boosted up till tomorrow so we will have stable state during the ICO.

Last block? You mean every block from the first to the last block (around 6 blocks) during that first hour, right? Let's say block nnnnn is the block at 1 PM GMT and nnnnn+6 is the block at 2 GMT. blocks nnnn+1, nnnnn+2, ... nnnnn+5 are in the first hour and should have the 50% bonus too, right?

Last block that will contain the first 10 million DCT. This means if the limit for 50% bonus will be reached in the second block for example, the whole first and second block will be counted even if the overall amount will be higher than 10 M

jvper

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Quote from: MatoB on September 10, 2016, 11:17:54 AM

Quote from: dx5 on September 10, 2016, 11:02:02 AM

Quote from: tetra on September 10, 2016, 10:54:59 AM

It could also be an insider trading thing. One large insider suddenly couldn't invest today anymore, so they wait until tomorrow for him

That's what I'm worried about.

This is not the cause. As we stated before we wan't to give everyone equal chance. Regarding the bonus it's based on last bitcoin block that will have these transactions in there and this whole block is counted in with 50% bonus. Our infrastructure will be boosted up till tomorrow so we will have stable state during the ICO.

Last block? You mean every block from the first to the last block (around 6 blocks) during that first hour, right? Let's say block nnnnn is the block at 1 PM GMT and nnnnn+6 is the block at 2 GMT. blocks nnnn+1, nnnnn+2, ... nnnnn+5 are in the first hour and should have the 50% bonus too, right?

Hhampuz

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Meh.

Quote from: DECENT on September 10, 2016, 11:28:43 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: DECENT on September 10, 2016, 11:22:08 AM

Quote from: voteformeg on September 10, 2016, 10:47:54 AM

agree with all of you but better to take an other day to make sure all is ok then weeks/months with complainining and sorry's

Technical difficulties with the servers are reason for our decision to change the ICO start. We apologize for any inconvenience this might have caused to all of you. It was a hard but unnecesary decision to make in order to be 100% sure that once we launch the iCO everything will be stable and working.

If it was unnecessary as you say, then why did you do it? Lots of people are upset.

Sorry misspelling. It was necessary as we do not want this difficulties appear upon the actual ICO launch

So why did you lie and said it was about other bullshit reasons? Do you have any idea on how to approach potential investors or do you just not give a fuck?

DECENT

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Quote from: DECENT on September 10, 2016, 11:22:08 AM

Quote from: voteformeg on September 10, 2016, 10:47:54 AM

agree with all of you but better to take an other day to make sure all is ok then weeks/months with complainining and sorry's

Technical difficulties with the servers are reason for our decision to change the ICO start. We apologize for any inconvenience this might have caused to all of you. It was a hard but unnecesary decision to make in order to be 100% sure that once we launch the iCO everything will be stable and working.

If it was unnecessary as you say, then why did you do it? Lots of people are upset.

Sorry wrong spelling. It was necessary as we do not want this difficulties appear upon the actual ICO launch

Hhampuz

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Meh.

Quote from: jvper on September 10, 2016, 11:19:41 AM

Quote from: DECENT on September 10, 2016, 08:54:18 AM

Final testing is being done. DECENT ICO start is postponed for about an hour. Stay tuned to our official channels! https://twitter.com/DECENTplatform

For those who didn't read... it is still there, not edited.

Wasn't it possible to tell the truth? Something like "We messed up a bit, but managed to avoid any problem by delaying it. We must have everything tested and working just fine within some hours, thus we decided to postpone it for 24 hours." would have sounded much, much better. Now there are three big problems:

1) execution capacity - not deploying the ICO on time;

2) moral integrity - not telling the entire the truth;

3) lack of experient (or even reasonable) management - Just google on how companies deal with crisis... They tell the truth, apologize and move on. Denying and/or inventing stories is terrible and usually leads to greater reputational losses.

jvper

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Quote from: DECENT on September 10, 2016, 11:22:08 AM

Quote from: voteformeg on September 10, 2016, 10:47:54 AM

agree with all of you but better to take an other day to make sure all is ok then weeks/months with complainining and sorry's

Technical difficulties with the servers are reason for our decision to change the ICO start. We apologize for any inconvenience this might have caused to all of you. It was a hard but unnecesary decision to make in order to be 100% sure that once we launch the iCO everything will be stable and working.

Good call. Nobody would say you were wrong if you just said that. The statement was horrible. You may start to regain part of people's confidence by clarifying it up.

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Quote from: voteformeg on September 10, 2016, 10:47:54 AM

agree with all of you but better to take an other day to make sure all is ok then weeks/months with complainining and sorry's

Technical difficulties with the servers are reason for our decision to change the ICO start. We apologize for any inconvenience this might have caused to all of you. It was a hard but unnecesary decision to make in order to be 100% sure that once we launch the iCO everything will be stable and working.

jvper

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Quote from: DECENT on September 10, 2016, 08:54:18 AM

Final testing is being done. DECENT ICO start is postponed for about an hour. Stay tuned to our official channels! https://twitter.com/DECENTplatform

For those who didn't read... it is still there, not edited.

Wasn't it possible to tell the truth? Something like "We messed up a bit, but managed to avoid any problem by delaying it. We must have everything tested and working just fine within some hours, thus we decided to postpone it for 24 hours." would have sounded much, much better. Now there are three big problems:

1) execution capacity - not deploying the ICO on time;

2) moral integrity - not telling the entire the truth;

3) lack of experient (or even reasonable) management - Just google on how companies deal with crisis... They tell the truth, apologize and move on. Denying and/or inventing stories is terrible and usually leads to greater reputational losses.

bob75coin

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Quote from: Hhampuz on September 10, 2016, 11:10:51 AM

Quote from: bob75coin on September 10, 2016, 11:09:19 AM

Quote from: Wexfgy12 on September 10, 2016, 10:39:42 AM

"Based on the overwhelming community outreach we have decided to ensure an equal opportunity to participate for everyone, especially concerning the 50% bonus. Therefore, we have decided the best possible solution would be to postpone the start day to September 11, 2016 at 1:00pm GMT."

This is pretty ridiculous. The time was set in advance, people had the same opportunity to be here this afternoon. You arent even admitting whatever tech problems you ran into that caused this delay and instead blaming it on some desire for fairness? Pretty ridiculous and comes off exceptionally badly

You are right. Fairness? Huh

Why not to set ICO on 20th of September...it would be ten times more fair....

Exactly.

I saw 10th september around 2 months ago. So this date was set a long time ago, this is just bullshit.

They are waiting for someone that cannot invest today.
The result is that I wanted to invest today but I will wait the last ICO day to decide.

MatoB

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Quote from: dx5 on September 10, 2016, 11:02:02 AM

Quote from: tetra on September 10, 2016, 10:54:59 AM

It could also be an insider trading thing. One large insider suddenly couldn't invest today anymore, so they wait until tomorrow for him

That's what I'm worried about.

This is not the cause. As we stated before we wan't to give everyone equal chance. Regarding the bonus it's based on last bitcoin block that will have these transactions in there and this whole block is counted in with 50% bonus. Our infrastructure will be boosted up till tomorrow so we will have stable state during the ICO.

DECENT

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Quote from: WhoCaresCoins on September 10, 2016, 10:45:10 AM

Quote from: Limx Dev on September 10, 2016, 10:41:34 AM

Quote from: DECENT on September 10, 2016, 10:37:56 AM

DECENT ICO Start Update: https://decent.ch/decent-ico-start-update/

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As originally announced, DECENT ICO was supposed to start on September 10, 2016 at 1:00pm GMT. Based on the overwhelming community outreach we have decided to ensure an equal opportunity to participate for everyone, especially concerning the 50% bonus. Therefore, we have decided the best possible solution would be to postpone the start day to September 11, 2016 at 1:00pm GMT.

Hmm... i think it was a technical problem or?

Hmmmmmm I think it's technical problem too.
Are you KIDDING me DEV? What's the real reason of postponed? Huh

??

We ran into technical difficulties with our servers and infrastructure due to the immense response from the public. We are amazed by your attention and apologize for the delay. We prefer to fix the issues and start one day later to ensure stability and performance of the service.

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Quote from: dx5 on September 10, 2016, 11:02:02 AM

Quote from: tetra on September 10, 2016, 10:54:59 AM

It could also be an insider trading thing. One large insider suddenly couldn't invest today anymore, so they wait until tomorrow for him

That's what I'm worried about.

Well, that's pretty much all this message actually can mean, isn't it. Could be more than one person, though.

If you want fairness, get rid of that ridiculously high day 1 bonus.

Hhampuz

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Meh.

Quote from: bob75coin on September 10, 2016, 11:09:19 AM

Quote from: Wexfgy12 on September 10, 2016, 10:39:42 AM

"Based on the overwhelming community outreach we have decided to ensure an equal opportunity to participate for everyone, especially concerning the 50% bonus. Therefore, we have decided the best possible solution would be to postpone the start day to September 11, 2016 at 1:00pm GMT."

This is pretty ridiculous. The time was set in advance, people had the same opportunity to be here this afternoon. You arent even admitting whatever tech problems you ran into that caused this delay and instead blaming it on some desire for fairness? Pretty ridiculous and comes off exceptionally badly

You are right. Fairness? Huh

Why not to set ICO on 20th of September...it would be ten times more fair....

Exactly.

I saw 10th september around 2 months ago. So this date was set a long time ago, this is just bullshit.

bob75coin

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Quote from: Wexfgy12 on September 10, 2016, 10:39:42 AM

"Based on the overwhelming community outreach we have decided to ensure an equal opportunity to participate for everyone, especially concerning the 50% bonus. Therefore, we have decided the best possible solution would be to postpone the start day to September 11, 2016 at 1:00pm GMT."

This is pretty ridiculous. The time was set in advance, people had the same opportunity to be here this afternoon. You arent even admitting whatever tech problems you ran into that caused this delay and instead blaming it on some desire for fairness? Pretty ridiculous and comes off exceptionally badly

You are right. Fairness? Huh

Why not to set ICO on 20th of September...it would be ten times more fair....

Hhampuz

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Meh.

All I can say is HA!

That message you made is such pure bullshit that it's not even funny. You are blaming the community for the delay? Why did you post a before tha launch that you needed "1hour to finalize testing"?

And to ensure everyone has en equal chance to participate? You do realize you have lost lots of interest because of what happened today, right?

Anyways. I'm out. Waited around for about a month for this one, but the incompetence from you guys has surely scared me off.

jvper

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Quote from: DECENT on September 10, 2016, 08:27:42 AM

Quote from: mamichula on September 10, 2016, 08:18:34 AM

So it could be a fair launch, we need some clear instructions as to where to go to create our account so that we can participate. If not it will make people wonder if other people witch connections will get the link a little earlier, thus giving them the advantage. Similar to a coin that's mineable, that has no premine, but the developer gave bad instructions at the last minute while he mined away.

Just stay tuned to our website https://sale.decent.ch/ everything will be there on time.

Read what they said regarding a fair launch: "everything will be there on time". Now they state they will delay for a matter of fairness and other principles. BS!

jvper

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Quote from: tetra on September 10, 2016, 10:54:59 AM

It could also be an insider trading thing. One large insider suddenly couldn't invest today anymore, so they wait until tomorrow for him

Did you forget they announced they were going to delay for about an hour due to final testing? They are obviously lying! How dare! How can they imagine we are so naive?? Shame on you, Decent Team. It is really a shame. You must be too dumb to come forward with this statement after announcing an IPO months prior to it. It is really not reasonable at all! Nobody will buy your dumb statement.

P.S.: did you at least edit your post here before writing this statement?

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