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January 17, 2013, 04:35:38 PM
At some point if the funds aren't returned I would contact the New York Attorney general and have them start looking into a case of credit card fraud. 

Sounds exciting, but do you honestly consider this fraud?  C'mon, honestly? Tom delivered FPGA products before. He was running the whole thing like a somewhat profitable hobby. Then ASICs became an option, and he bit more then he can chew. He folded under pressure, and acted like an idiot on few occasions. Obviously, some people are getting refunds. Is everyone going to get their money back? We don't know. Is he (and others from his former team) trying? Obviously, yes. Was he competent and able to deliver ASIC products? Obviously no. Was this fraud?  No. See above.


From my understanding you can't use pre-order money to run your business.  All the funds should have been sitting in an account, meaning everybody should be able to get a refund.   If they are not then there is a possible case of fraud here. 
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January 17, 2013, 04:31:26 PM
Tom trying to save/earn money by delaying BTC refunds as long as possible?

...request refund on Monday (01-14-12), sent follow up on (01-16-12) haven't received a response. I paid via BTC ~90 (was trading at 11.80) totally feel like i'm getting jacked, regarding BTC/USD conversion. ...however the product was clearly priced in USD, but leaves a really bad taste.


FU Tom. FU.
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January 17, 2013, 03:04:21 PM

Precisely my point. People say stupid shit like this BECAUSE they expect to be protected by anonymity. Think the drag queen MeSarah would be bashing on Tom's wife if he was standing next to him? Uh no. Just another coward.

To be honest, I think people have become a lot more rude in real life as a sort of flow on effect of not applying a filter to what they say online.  People have become used to venting every little frustration online and it seems to diminish the capacity of many to deal with frustration or disappointment in real life in a non-confrontational manner.
sr. member
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January 17, 2013, 02:51:28 PM
Pick on Tom all you want, I certainly don't care. If he cares he'll probably show up and put you in your place...again. I just think it's in bad taste to diss the man's wife.

Grown the fck up. Gee... Its the internet, ppl can make fun of your mom.

Precisely my point. People say stupid shit like this BECAUSE they expect to be protected by anonymity. Think the drag queen MeSarah would be bashing on Tom's wife if he was standing next to him? Uh no. Just another coward.
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There is more to Bitcoin than bitcoins.
January 17, 2013, 02:19:14 PM
At some point if the funds aren't returned I would contact the New York Attorney general and have them start looking into a case of credit card fraud. 

Sounds exciting, but do you honestly consider this fraud?  C'mon, honestly? Tom delivered FPGA products before. He was running the whole thing like a somewhat profitable hobby. Then ASICs became an option, and he bit more then he can chew. He folded under pressure, and acted like an idiot on few occasions. Obviously, some people are getting refunds. Is everyone going to get their money back? We don't know. Is he (and others from his former team) trying? Obviously, yes. Was he competent and able to deliver ASIC products? Obviously no. Was this fraud?  No. See above.
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January 17, 2013, 11:09:22 AM
member
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January 17, 2013, 11:04:49 AM
Someone should start a list to keep track of who has received their refund and how many still are outstanding.  At some point if the funds aren't returned I would contact the New York Attorney general and have them start looking into a case of credit card fraud. 
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January 17, 2013, 08:33:28 AM
im not bitching about not getting back as much btc as i payed in but i do think that since i request a refund prior to Dave need some personal time and the price of btc has shot up almost a dollar since then that thew ppl that request a refund before then should get the refund ad the price before he took his leave of appsence.


sent request monday at 526 pm est time. price of btc at time 14.15 current price 14.92 = .77 diff or $59.85 per unit.

as of 1/17/13 3:00 est the price difference is now 15.68 current price or 1.53 dollars difference
sr. member
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January 17, 2013, 04:32:02 AM
Pick on Tom all you want, I certainly don't care. If he cares he'll probably show up and put you in your place...again. I just think it's in bad taste to diss the man's wife.

Grown the fck up. Gee... Its the internet, ppl can make fun of your mom. If thats a bad taste, then insulting is fine? AFAIK, Tom was fcking around with ppl's money, his wife being joked on the internet is the last thing he should worry about.



NO DISRESPECT MY FAMIRY!
 
sr. member
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January 17, 2013, 12:33:01 AM
Pick on Tom all you want, I certainly don't care. If he cares he'll probably show up and put you in your place...again. I just think it's in bad taste to diss the man's wife.
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January 16, 2013, 09:35:56 PM
The Politically Correct Police addicts said no humor in a drama thread. I guess some people just can't laugh at others who for fun enter a contest and intentionally make a fool of them self so others can laugh. Jerry Louis where have you gone? I'm sure the PC police are going to claim that a thyroid problem diminishes the effectiveness of their funny bone functionality.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AllhU-qRRbs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPqcTFm2ID8
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January 16, 2013, 09:29:39 PM
Also, anyone got anymore contact info on Davebuzz or Tom? Or if you seen them hang out in an IRC channel lately, all I got was dave's email.

Someone on IRC said Tom changed his number....

Someone please post pics of him again. His avatar was so cool.

https://plus.google.com/photos/107082417778531020969/albums

So after a bit of searching I found this video of Tom's lovely wife..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTwWp-0SfVw&list=FLqfXuai2TnWBnyqLZBQXuqQ

tehehe

I got married when I was 18 and my wife was 19. She weighed ~100lb then and had a plain-Jane look, but was good enough for me--at the time. Now, she's over 300lbs and looks creaturish. I've seen two photos of Tom's wife. One looks rather pretty, while the other is slightly not, but not ugly like my ex-wife.

I'll have to agree that the video is in bad taste. OTOH, Josh's poodle is fair game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUhLiiRGn3k

Re Josh/Inaba I have never come across anyone with so much pent up JIZZ in his system...I think we should all chip in 0.001btc each to get the guy laid

We could go the discount route and chip in 0.1 LTC we could then Buy him some vasolene & gaffer tape for his dog....(after the "a bottle of JD your mother 8 1/2 months pregnant and a coat hanger"  this is acceptable ...just ...lol )
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January 16, 2013, 09:23:20 PM
It's humor. The 'tehehe' should have been your first clue that it was humor. It's not like I am comparing Tom's family photo with a photo of Hitler which I'm sure would offend millions of Jewish people.
Strangely I thought Hitler typically offended alot of people, not just the Jewish people.

I guess that means you don't find Hitler offensive?

Is a personal attack... Hitler offends everybody in some way...but is gold for comedic comment as u cant go any higher/harder/more offensive than him... Cool

There are a couple of schools of thought that the universe is infinite or finite..In the finite viewpoint that i adhere too, you will find once u reach the end of the universe..Hitler will be there... (IMHO)

legendary
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January 16, 2013, 09:12:54 PM
It's humor. The 'tehehe' should have been your first clue that it was humor. It's not like I am comparing Tom's family photo with a photo of Hitler which I'm sure would offend millions of Jewish people.
Strangely I thought Hitler typically offended alot of people, not just the Jewish people.

I guess that means you don't find Hitler offensive?
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
January 16, 2013, 08:39:55 PM
Also, anyone got anymore contact info on Davebuzz or Tom? Or if you seen them hang out in an IRC channel lately, all I got was dave's email.

Someone on IRC said Tom changed his number....

Someone please post pics of him again. His avatar was so cool.

https://plus.google.com/photos/107082417778531020969/albums

So after a bit of searching I found this video of Tom's lovely wife..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTwWp-0SfVw&list=FLqfXuai2TnWBnyqLZBQXuqQ

tehehe

I got married when I was 18 and my wife was 19. She weighed ~100lb then and had a plain-Jane look, but was good enough for me--at the time. Now, she's over 300lbs and looks creaturish. I've seen two photos of Tom's wife. One looks rather pretty, while the other is slightly not, but not ugly like my ex-wife.

I'll have to agree that the video is in bad taste. OTOH, Josh's poodle is fair game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUhLiiRGn3k
legendary
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January 16, 2013, 04:18:44 PM
Ah to be 12 years old again. Now I remember why I had you ignored...

Fixed that issue.
full member
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January 16, 2013, 02:11:14 PM
It's humor. The 'tehehe' should have been your first clue that it was humor. It's not like I am comparing Tom's family photo with a photo of Hitler which I'm sure would offend millions of Jewish people.
sr. member
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January 16, 2013, 01:53:37 PM
Classy move bud. Roll Eyes
full member
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January 16, 2013, 01:51:22 PM
Also, anyone got anymore contact info on Davebuzz or Tom? Or if you seen them hang out in an IRC channel lately, all I got was dave's email.

Someone on IRC said Tom changed his number....

Someone please post pics of him again. His avatar was so cool.

https://plus.google.com/photos/107082417778531020969/albums

So after a bit of searching I found this video of Tom's lovely wife..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTwWp-0SfVw&list=FLqfXuai2TnWBnyqLZBQXuqQ

tehehe
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January 16, 2013, 01:27:06 PM
Still hoping that they reach a buyout deal. We really need 3+ active vendors in order to push prices down once the development has been paid off.

There's nothing to buy dude.  bASIC was vaporware.   It's true what was said by someone else - stages of loss and grief: 1 denial, 2 anger, 3 bargaining, 4 depression, 5 acceptance

What number are you @ with bASIC and btcfpga?


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