Topic: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. - page 26. (Read 89558 times)

When posters suggest changes that favor Anonibet rating, you implement them.

When posters provide negative feedback on Anonibet or suggest changes that might negatively affect their score, you ignore them.

This ratings guide has turned into a disguised advertising vehicle for Anonibet.

Guys - Please chime in even if it's just a letter so that we can move on. What rating would you give DirectBet using your own criteria?

I changed the ratings because Legion and others that supported the idea of grades being given too easily. The POSTERS initiated the changes. Anonibet had nothing to do with it. If that were the case then Anonibet, Cloudbet and Nitrogen would all be "A"s and everyone else below. The rules aren't tailored for books with banners up.

That's exactly my point ! The ratings were reasonable at first, but then you changed the rules here so that technically, only Anonibet can be rated A, on top of all others.

That was AFTER Anonibet paid you. And then of course you rated them A, isolated on top of the list.

There have been several reports here during the past few days on Anonibet retroactively canceling bets, delaying withdrawals, limiting bet sizes and bet selections and various other negative feedback. Players are saying they will never bet there again, but their rating remains a firm A, on top of all other sportbooks.

You keep saying that the ratings here is "By the players for the players", but when it comes to Anonibet, you keep ignoring all the negative feedback on them, and there wasn't a single post here suggesting they are the best.

For these reasons, we are claiming that this ratings guide has turned into a disguised advertising vehicle for Anonibet.

Coindraft has stated that their withdrawals are now automated and will processed within 1 hour.

Complaint about Coindraft
I play there and have made two withdrawals. Both under 2 BTC and were paid in approximately 24 hours after a lot of complaining.

Thanks for the info, I was not aware that you do not make the decisions on rating upgrades.

But that was not my question. My question is :

Would you please disclose which Bitcoin sportbooks are paying you to promote them in forums ?

Just like you expect us books to be honest and fair, we too expect that you will be honest to the users reading this ratings guide and disclose which of the books are paying you to promote them in forums, to alert users of a possible conflict of interest.

Looks like DirectBet has taken us all off track.

And how much money exactly did I "trust" them with?

U can try and downplay me all u want for stuff about me u have "zero" info on. If it makes u feel better to think I'm a losing player go ahead. Just think how can someone who seems to know not to trust any book open for 2 months with more than $500 be as much of a loser as u say?
There is actually 1 idiot left in this thread it is u and u know why. Do u really not think your not an idiot for trusting a bookie open 2months with that much $? U can't hide how greedy u are, or that wouldn't have happened to such an extreme level. Sorry I can't side with u since this is the stupidest story I have come across to date.

Somehow every time you post it's dumber than your previous post. Not sure how you always manage to outdo your own stupidity but you clearly have a gift.  When it comes to being an idiot you exceed expectations with every stroke of your keyboard.

Look man, I know it still hurts. You made a lot of bad bets and lost a ton on coinbet. I feel for you and your horrible life. If you keep grinding out .01 Bitcoins eventually you'll get em all back!

Everyone always remember when reading this post from this poster, he lost 340k to a new book because of his belief system to the new books.

The above re: the following in Anonibet's T&C:
"2.02
In order to withdraw funds from your account, you are required to place bets as much as the amount deposited. If you make a withdrawal request without placing bets 5% handling fee shall be deducted from the amount you have requested."


Michael - "OK I see your point now. You might be right, we shall remove it from our T&C."


Peeps Place - "Nice work by both gogo and Anonibet working together. It's good to see a book take our opinions seriously."


Yet I notice it is still there 9 days later. Perhaps you forgot to remove it?


Anonibet - What is happening with the above situation?
Did you decide not to remove the 5% charge for withdrawing without rolling over a deposit one time?

If you guys have a question for a book, just ask here. If they don't reply, then I'll shoot them a PM to see if they would like to reply/

I really hate talking about Anonibet again and repeating this, but a poster vote was taken and Anonibet was number 1. Posters voted them #1 and they have been in existence longer than other books. I'm not sure how they can be moved down.

There are valid criticisms of Anonibet and those posts are appreciated. All books don't target the same market and have the same offerings. The World Cup is coming up. This would be the best time to compare books and limits.

I wrote up some solid reviews a couple pages back so i'll weigh in.  I think most of the ratings here are decent based on the "time" criteria.  I do think cloudbet might be the best right now, but if you cap what a book can achieve based on time in existence than cloudbet is where it should be.

however, that being said, JUST because a book is the oldest (anonibet) doesn't mean it should be rated the highest.  the review i posted about anonibet and several others here are pretty scathing when you subtract out the fact that they've been open the longest.  they are pretty much the worst across the board on 5 other criteria points.  frankly the book itself is D+ to C- at best when you take EVERYTHING into consideration (other than time open).  i DO think that other peoples complaints about anonibet are legit and it should be downgraded considerably because all aspects of that book suck other than the fact that they've been in business the longest.

there is one other thing to consider though.  i think anyone can open up a bitcoin book like anonibet with roughly 50 bitcoins in cold storage.  the fact is that the average bettor probably wagers .05 BTC and so when anonibet caps action about as low as possible there is almost 0 risk to them as far as someone like me ever winning big.  i would be shocked if they could release a cold storage wallet address proving they had 500-1000 bitcoins to back their book.

I would rather play at a brand spanking new book who released a signed wallet transaction showing good backing (1000 btc) then a lowly capped book like anonibet that prays off people who are zero risk to them (especially when their posted odds are so terrible they they gain a extra 10% handicap advantage over all the other books).

As soon as your bet transfer is received, our automated betting system will either confirm or reject it within a few seconds.

We do not hold the bet, except when betting is temporarily suspended. When that happens, we wait up to 1 more minute for betting to resume and otherwise reject and refund the bet immediately. This rarely happens and we do not gain any advantage for doing so. We do that to avoid the inconvenience of a rejected bet.

You can read more about how we handle received bets here :
http://www.directbet.eu/Rules.cshtml


If by the time we receive your bet transfer, the odds have increased in your favor, your bet will confirm at the greater odds.

As soon as we receive your bet transfer, we immediately make a single inquiry to the current odds, and these odds are used to process the bet.

This is true for all betting options. Under no circumstances will you get worse odds than the current odds.

I invite you to audit and confirm this.

You can read more about how we process bets here :

http://www.directbet.eu/FAQ.cshtml#BetOptions


We have implemented our own software.

Peeps, you ask a lot of questions here and I am doing my best to answer all of them, but I can not answer some of your questions as I do not wish to reveal confidential information that might tip our competitors.

That's said, I asked you just one question and you ignored it, so I will ask it again :

Would you please disclose which Bitcoin sportbooks are paying you to promote them in forums ?

DirectBet- Should the established bigger books come in here to refute the claims of a new start up book? I'm 100% sure that some of your allegations in this thread are false.

Directbet - When players confirm a bet, why do you hold it so long before accepting or rejecting the bet? Are you waiting for the next line move? If the line moves in our favor, will you accept the change as CRIS/Bookmaker does with their live betting?

CRIS/Bookmaker protects the player by rejecting line moves in their favor. The same goes for every other book. If we make a bet with some of your other options is there a possibility of getting worse odds?

How many years have you been in business as a bookmaker? Have you also been on the other side of the counter? Did you write your own software or buy it?

Other books that do it the same that you do go under. How are your lines set? Which book are you cloning and how much juice are you adding to their lines? If your profit margin is 2-3% then you are definitely doing something wrong since your theoretical hold is vastly higher.